USB oscilliscope isolation
verobel
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Fellow Stampers..
I would like to be able to measure these voltage without destroying another scope. Any ideas how?
Thanks, John
- I recently tried to use the parallax digital USB oscilliscope to measure AC voltage pattern of a household drill. The drill is a universal motor with stator and rotor in series along with some undetermined switch device (probably phase ctrl).
- I first ran wires out to a bread board and then measured the voltages with a digital volt meter and got number ranging for 10 to 75 volts AC rms
- I then created a resistor bridge circuit to drop the voltage down below 5 volts AC rms such that the voltage would not be too high for input to the scope
- I then connected the scope to observe the wave form.... zap, I got a short thru the scope, thru the usbcable, thru the pc power supply... I guess to household ground
- The scope probes were well welded to the wires.. but I had not intended to make a welding machine!
I would like to be able to measure these voltage without destroying another scope. Any ideas how?
Thanks, John
Comments
You've definitely learned a valuable lesson, without loss of life!
This happens with many scopes since not all have isolated power supplies or measuring circuits.
To be clear, your measurement CAN be done safely, but it requires that you know the AC neutral connection of all devices involved is the same.
It was quite common industry, before the days of battery-operated scopes, to always have the scope fed from an isolating transformer. As well, no one would ever touch the metal casing of the scope while connected to the circuit under test.
The safest arrangement for the hobbiest using computer-based instruments, is to use a laptop ( preferably with a completely plastic case) and operate it on battery-only power during measurements of line-operated equipment.
One final note is that the policy for people working for me was to ALWAYS use fused probes on test equipment. In your case, the only damage would have been to change the fuse in the test lead........not the smoke and fireworks you observed!
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That would not help if the a/c polarity was incorrect because the capacitor would be an a/c short to ground.
John