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Thinking about building a RC fishfinder

T ChapT Chap Posts: 4,223
edited 2006-06-09 00:22 in General Discussion
Me and a buddy live near LA and are an hours drive from a few great lakes where there is good bass fishing. We know there are record bass in these lakes, but we suck pretty bad at catching the fat ones out here, so we are thinking of ways to boost our numbers, plus get a record bass and reap the bucks in endorements afterwards. One problem we have is that the best bass fishing is in early morning, and that rules us out.

I have a CNC machine and access to a buddy with a laser cutter too, I am pretty handy with getting boards made, both home and factory. Since I have the tools to build a gadget, we are contemplating a small remote controlled electric boat, something like 2 feet long, that will have underwater cameras that transmit back to our boat a real time image of the water. We also would like to put in a depthfinder, and fish detector as well, that would transmit back to us the info. There is a thought of making it auto-troll, we set a depth minimum and depth maximum for it to troll back and forth along a bank. It would need some obstacle avoidance system too, to detect threes, sticks, and stuff like that. One other possibility is to take some bait to a hard to access location, drop it, then we reel it back in.

If there are any bass fishermen that are interested in colaborating please let me know. This project will be spread out over several months as we are both very busy. It would be nice to have some help with the programming, guidance system, depth finder, fishfinding sonar etc. The mechanical part I can build unless someone else wants to do it for any reason, then we can share all the parts, circuit boards, etc, and hopefully snag some fat ones.

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  • bennettdanbennettdan Posts: 614
    edited 2006-06-07 22:26
    Hey I will help with what I can, how are you going to power it trolling motor?
  • T ChapT Chap Posts: 4,223
    edited 2006-06-08 00:29
    Probably use a lead acid 12v battery, 7AH so it will last a half day no problem at 1 amp.
  • bennettdanbennettdan Posts: 614
    edited 2006-06-08 01:14
    Ok are you going to just turn the motor on and off or speed controll?
  • steve_bsteve_b Posts: 1,563
    edited 2006-06-08 03:14
    There's been some chats on here before about using Parallax's PING ultrasonic rangefinder underwater....and for a few reasons it won't work.
    Not only would it be difficult to waterproof and have it still work (as the transducer needs to be exposed to the medium it is..."agitating?") but if you plan to use it in water, it just won't affect the water enough.

    Spoke with a co-worker that worked on sub sonars and basically they run at 1000's of kiloVolts in order to get the pulse to transmit in to the water, and for the distances as well.

    If you have an old fishfinder kicking around, you MIGHT be able to figure out how to reuse the transducer.....sometimes it's just easier to buy off the shelf (as much as that takes the fun out of things).

    Some thing you might want to look in to, and I have no links for this, is the temperature layers of the water. Bass like certain cover..etc....but also certain water temps.
    I had planned on hooking up a little temperature sensor and LCD for the future father-in-law and his fishing.
    he can lower it in to the water and checking the temp at different depths.

    Also, you note being close to some 'great lakes'.....all the GREAT lakes are up here in Canada! [noparse];)[/noparse]

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    Steve

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  • T ChapT Chap Posts: 4,223
    edited 2006-06-08 04:38
    Yes temperature is mandatory. We have an old fishfiner, has a small LCD display on it with images of smal, medium and large fish, actually it never helped us at all. I think the camera is better, if you can see a real fish you are better off than with a fishsinder.

    In the south where I grew up, you could walk out your back door and catch big ones all day. Here in Cli you have to have designer bait ot they ignore you.

    I think speed control is a must as well.
  • iamscottymiamscottym Posts: 30
    edited 2006-06-08 05:17
    I've done a lot of R/C boat stuff..including building some from scratch. I know you dont anticipate needed much power; but when you've got a displacement hull and a lot of weight, running along at trolling speeds sucks a lot of power. Plus, electronics suck power as well. For the overall design, you could either make your own, fiberglass with minimal reinforcing should be more than adequate, or go to your local hobby store. I'd estimate you'll need something in the 3-4' length department. With either a kit or a RTR, it will come with propulsion. If you build your own, look at hobby-lobby.com they have Graupner drive systems that you basically just drop in and go, no need to mess with alignment. I'd suggest 2 speed 600 systems. If you want to get a little more involved, you can gear down a motor yourself; look around for scale trawler or other non performance props/motors/gear ratios. Gearing a motor down will give you more efficiency, and extra torque in case you get wrapped up in some weeds. This is the way I would go; though having dealt only with performance boats this isnt my area of expertise.

    For power, just go with some 3-4Ah sub c cells- 9.6V or whatever you're motors rated for. I would suggest 3-4 packs in parallel-12-16Ah. Might even need more depending on lake chop, hull specifics, etc. You could go with a bigger cell instead, but the weight/capacity doesnt get any better, and neither does price. I like intelliect 4200's...but they're kind pricey. Powerizer makes some decent 3300's..and at 15 bucks for a 7.2V pack, cheap as dirt.

    I'd advise setting the boat up with a standard radio, and then put a BS2 between the receiver outputs and the speed controllers/rudder..so you're BS2 will pass on any radio inputs overriding its program for when you want to retrieve it/whatever.

    Hope this helps;
    Scott
  • Bruce BatesBruce Bates Posts: 3,045
    edited 2006-06-08 05:52
    Originator -

    You may find that the single biggest hinderance to your proposed camera system is visibility. This is why acoustic and RF means are more often used in fish seeking electronics.

    Regards,

    Bruce Bates

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  • steve_bsteve_b Posts: 1,563
    edited 2006-06-09 00:22
    I was going to say the same thing.
    If you want to use a camera....then move to the bahama's to that crystal blue water.
    Up here (Canuckland), if the waters clear, there's nothing in it!
    Bruce Bates said...
    Originator -

    You may find that the single biggest hinderance to your proposed camera system is visibility. This is why acoustic and RF means are more often used in fish seeking electronics.

    Regards,

    Bruce Bates
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    Steve

    "Inside each and every one of us is our one, true authentic swing. Something we was born with. Something that's ours and ours alone. Something that can't be learned... something that's got to be remembered."
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