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Windows 98 display problems

FlyingFishFingerFlyingFishFinger Posts: 461
edited 2006-01-31 15:56 in General Discussion
I know this doesn't even have to do with robotics, but it's the closest place I know besides [noparse][[/noparse]$$%^(*] Microsoft. I just installed Windows 98 SE on an old comp (PII 233Mhz, 64MB Ram). It was a pain ( 6 hours due to my in-progress learning), but it finally works. But now I have this problem: The resolution is stuck at 640x480 and 16 colors. I cannot change this at all, Control Panel won't let me.
I am not good with drivers, but I suspect it has something to do with my graphics card....any help appreciated right now...
Thanks
Rafael

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  • Robert KubichekRobert Kubichek Posts: 343
    edited 2006-01-30 03:18
    flyingfishfinger said...
    I know this doesn't even have to do with robotics, but it's the closest place I know besides [noparse][[/noparse]$$%^(*] Microsoft. I just installed Windows 98 SE on an old comp (PII 233Mhz, 64MB Ram). It was a pain ( 6 hours due to my in-progress learning), but it finally works. But now I have this problem: The resolution is stuck at 640x480 and 16 colors. I cannot change this at all, Control Panel won't let me.
    I am not good with drivers, but I suspect it has something to do with my graphics card....any help appreciated right now...
    Thanks
    Rafael

    You are right on, you need to know whom the graphic card maker is, model #, then DL and re-install using the correct driver...

    I do this for a living. turn.gifburger.gif

    Bob N9LVU scool.gif
  • FlyingFishFingerFlyingFishFinger Posts: 461
    edited 2006-01-30 03:22
    Where do I check what graphics card I have? It just says Default something in the Device Manager
    Raf
  • Robert KubichekRobert Kubichek Posts: 343
    edited 2006-01-30 03:50
    flyingfishfinger said...
    Where do I check what graphics card I have? It just says Default something in the Device Manager
    Raf

    Open up the case take it out and look at it then GOOGLE for it, or if it is on the MOB, look up the MOB, there will be info on how to DL driver if display is integrated on MOB.

    Bob N9LVU scool.gif
  • FlyingFishFingerFlyingFishFinger Posts: 461
    edited 2006-01-30 04:07
    Well...it's a laptop...do I still just open it up?
    Raf
  • ForrestForrest Posts: 1,341
    edited 2006-01-30 04:11
    Go to the laptop manufacturer's web site - they probably have Windows 98 drivers for your video card, network card, etc.

    I think Windows 98 would be painful to run on just 64 MB. I'd try to add another 256 MB.
  • Robert KubichekRobert Kubichek Posts: 343
    edited 2006-01-30 04:14
    flyingfishfinger said...
    Well...it's a laptop...do I still just open it up?
    Raf

    Go to the Manufactures website and look it up, or Google is your friend!!!

    I really can't help you if you do not help me....nono.gif

    What make/model is it???? confused.gif


    Bob N9LVU scool.gif
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2006-01-30 05:56
    Drivers! They drive us crazy. The best place to go is DIRECTLY to the manufacture.

    In you case, the video is likely part of the motherboard and NOT a video card.
    Hopefully, you laptop is from a still viable manufacture.

    The second likely place to go is to a 'Driver Web Site'. Still, they seem mostly to just search and collect drivers rather than support any installation.

    Finally, there is a search engine called 'the time machine' that will actually dig up old web pages from the Internet. I have never used it, but you might find it will bring up an old file directly from the manufacturer that is no longer on the manufacturer's web site.

    Regarding Microsoft,
    if they built airplanes we would all be running around like Chicken Little. My WindowsXP just dumped all my email and switched from Microsoft Office Outlook to Microsoft Outlook Express. I really cannot figure out WHY? Microsoft would allow two email programs on the same computer from their own product without asking if you really, really want to do that.

    So, I am limping along with Outlook Express while I try to learn how to reinstate the other. Hopefully I haven't lost all my correspondence.
    If anyone cares to get me tips, thanks.

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  • gibbmangibbman Posts: 98
    edited 2006-01-30 13:28
    Hi Kramer,
    Everytime I get an "auto-update" from MS, it changes my client from Outlook Express to Outlook, sounds just the opposite of your problem, but it seems to happen everytime. If you go to your browser's Tools, Internet Options, Programs....you can change it back, and all your old mail should be there. Mine always is, but it is truly another Windows Annoyance.
    Jim
  • ForrestForrest Posts: 1,341
    edited 2006-01-30 17:28
    Here's a tip for system stability - stop using software written by Microsoft! On my PC I've trashed Outlook Express and use Mozilla (web browser+email). If you're just looking for an email program - try Thunderbird www.mozilla.org/download.html
  • David BDavid B Posts: 592
    edited 2006-01-30 18:28
    Yeah, I bought an IBM PC off eBay awhile ago and loaded Win98 onto it. It worked, but just barely.

    To get it working decently, I had to go to the IBM website for support for that exact model PC, and find and load specific drivers for just about every periferal - display, mouse, ethernet, sound, serial port, CDROM...

    It did take some digging to get the right drivers, but it wasn't really that hard, and it made a huge difference in how well the system worked.

    If you have the time: keep a log of the steps to rebuild the system, save your log and drivers separately, then when you've finished, reload the OS again. Later on, if your computer ever majorly screws up, it's really helpful to be able to strip it down to the bare metal and build it fresh, and if you have notes to follow, you can do the rebuild in just a few hours.
  • Robert KubichekRobert Kubichek Posts: 343
    edited 2006-01-30 18:47
    David B said...
    Yeah, I bought an IBM PC off eBay awhile ago and loaded Win98 onto it. It worked, but just barely.

    To get it working decently, I had to go to the IBM website for support for that exact model PC, and find and load specific drivers for just about every periferal - display, mouse, ethernet, sound, serial port, CDROM...

    It did take some digging to get the right drivers, but it wasn't really that hard, and it made a huge difference in how well the system worked.

    If you have the time: keep a log of the steps to rebuild the system, save your log and drivers separately, then when you've finished, reload the OS again. Later on, if your computer ever majorly screws up, it's really helpful to be able to strip it down to the bare metal and build it fresh, and if you have notes to follow, you can do the rebuild in just a few hours.

    Otherwise, after loading OS, pull the hd, and make a Ghost image of it in case you have to reload OS again... MUCH easier to do, and takes much less time... The Ghost image can be on a self booting cdrom, or an image on the cdrom with a bootable floppy with the ghost program on it..... yeah.gif

    I do it ALL the time!! jumpin.gif

    Bob N9LVU scool.gif
  • FlyingFishFingerFlyingFishFinger Posts: 461
    edited 2006-01-31 00:14
    Errm...I might have just done something stupid....I got fed up and trashed the whole OS. Then I went and booted from CD, deleted and recreated the primary DOS partition and now am trying to format it and get the thing right. I'm attempting the format from the CD drive, because whatever I try to do from the new primary DOS it says "Invalid media type reading drive C:"
    So when I say Format C: from the CD drive, it tells me " Bad command or file name"....??????
    Rafael

    BTW It's an HP Omnibook 4100, previously running Win 95 C

    PS Under FDISK (run from CD), it also says the new partition has an unknown file system

    Post Edited (flyingfishfinger) : 1/31/2006 12:22:59 AM GMT
  • Robert KubichekRobert Kubichek Posts: 343
    edited 2006-01-31 00:24
    flyingfishfinger said...
    Errm...I might have just done something stupid....I got fed up and trashed the whole OS. Then I went and booted from CD, deleted and recreated the primary DOS partition and now am trying to format it and get the thing right. I'm attempting the format from the CD drive, because whatever I try to do from the new primary DOS it says "Invalid media type reading drive C:"
    So when I say Format C: from the CD drive, it tells me " Bad command or file name"....??????
    Rafael

    BTW It's an HP Omnibook 4100, previously running Win 95 C

    Go on another machine "preferably W98SE" and make a emergency boot floppy, boot WITH cdrom support, and then do the setup from cdrom....
    You also might have re-fdisk it, deleat all partitions, and recreate the partition schema you prefer/want.


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    Post Edited (Robert Kubichek) : 1/31/2006 12:27:11 AM GMT
  • FlyingFishFingerFlyingFishFinger Posts: 461
    edited 2006-01-31 00:26
    I can boot with CD support...it just won't let me setup...it says "checking" something then it displays a W and freezes instead of a % counter.
    I suspect I messes up the hard drive...I can't format it...
    Raf
  • Robert KubichekRobert Kubichek Posts: 343
    edited 2006-01-31 00:31
    flyingfishfinger said...
    I can boot with CD support...it just won't let me setup...it says "checking" something then it displays a W and freezes instead of a % counter.
    I suspect I messes up the hard drive...I can't format it...
    Raf

    Use a 3rd party partition prg and redo partitions and then format using same, or use Ultimate boot disk from Linux to redo partitions.

    Bob N9LVU scool.gif.
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2006-01-31 11:08
    Sadly I have Ghost 9.0 and they seem to have abandoned thier independence from Microsoft.

    I don't have a BOOT disk and no idea of how to make one.
    I switched over the NTFS file system and am wondering if my older Ghost 8.0 will work.
    If so, I will go back to it.

    My email is running properly now, but haven't located the old email.
    I do have it in a Ghost image of Drive C:. But I can't seem to reinstate the whole drive.
    I am a bit wary about trying to bring over just the Email data files.

    Any suggestions.

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  • Robert KubichekRobert Kubichek Posts: 343
    edited 2006-01-31 15:56
    Kramer said...
    Sadly I have Ghost 9.0 and they seem to have abandoned thier independence from Microsoft.

    I don't have a BOOT disk and no idea of how to make one.
    I switched over the NTFS file system and am wondering if my older Ghost 8.0 will work.
    If so, I will go back to it.

    My email is running properly now, but haven't located the old email.
    I do have it in a Ghost image of Drive C:. But I can't seem to reinstate the whole drive.
    I am a bit wary about trying to bring over just the Email data files.

    Any suggestions.

    I hate to say this, but Ghost 9.0 S**KS!!! shakehead.gif
    Ghost 8.0 will work with Fat16/32 and NTFS, for that matter the boot floppy you make in XP is actually an updated W98SE floppy. yeah.gif

    I use Ghost 8.0 for all my backups from DOS, and Acronis True Image 9.0 as my Windows realtime nightly backup..... turn.gif

    Ghost 8.0 is one of the "techies" must have utilities! smilewinkgrin.gif

    Bob N9LVU scool.gif

    Post Edited (Robert Kubichek) : 1/31/2006 4:04:24 PM GMT
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