AI robotics
Hey,
Recently I have just finished my first project in AI robotics and I used some parallax components in the system. I would like to know other people's opinons of the direction AI and robotics is heading since both are inextricably linked. I would like to hear if anyone else has thought about this. I mean we have come a long way since David Silver and Bill Gosper from MIT. I was amazed to find out that there are a few hackers from the Homebrewed computer club over in California which saw the Altair and more importantly the Apple. Just wanting to get a new view from other people on the topic.-Signol01
Recently I have just finished my first project in AI robotics and I used some parallax components in the system. I would like to know other people's opinons of the direction AI and robotics is heading since both are inextricably linked. I would like to hear if anyone else has thought about this. I mean we have come a long way since David Silver and Bill Gosper from MIT. I was amazed to find out that there are a few hackers from the Homebrewed computer club over in California which saw the Altair and more importantly the Apple. Just wanting to get a new view from other people on the topic.-Signol01
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You say "saw the Altair and more importantly the Apple" like that was some kind of feat. Many of us owned them, and some of us ran Computer Bulletin Board Systems (BBS) using them. I happened to be one of the early TRS-80 users, and ran a 24 x 7 x 365 BBS from my home, from the fall of 1968 to the summer of 1986 (when I unfortunately got married <sigh>), beginning on a 16 K TRS-80 Model I with a 4 digit serial number, and ending with a 64K TR-80 Model III.
Some of the folks on this forum wrote their own BBS software to run on these early machines. Yup, some of us dinosaurs are still alive and some of us STILL own those very machines of which I spoke.
Regards,
Bruce Bates
Formerly of
MCTBBS
Hmmm, I started out with a TRS80 Model 1-2, and then went to a C64 with 3 floppies.
Then to an early Tandy 1k with a 27meg hd....I was "Mystery Manor BBS" back then , and I also did some trouble shooting for Exec-PC BBS "The largest call-in BBS in the world"....
Those were the days!
Bob N9LVU
The first is programming a computer to do something a human used to do. As Parnas says "once we see how the program works, and understand the problem, we will not think of it as AI anymore".
The next is the "Inference Engine" approach, also called 'rule-based'. This uses an 'inference engine' set of code, run against a set of 'rules', to make conclusions (and then maybe take actions).
The next is the 'neural net', where a parallel linked set of 'nodes' are 'trained' (through changing the 'weighting' of signals passed through the node connections) to 'recognize' certain conditions.
I haven't seen much in the literature lately on major advances in AI. The 'rule-based' approaches don't scale well -- the more knowledge you have, the more rules you have, the harder it is to prevent confusion and deadlock in the rule-base.
The 'neural-net' approaches are also limited in application. Once you've trained your 'neural-net' to recognize something, that's all it's good for.
I find the BS2, and the PBasic language, and the BOE-Bot, make a very nice testbed for the first approach, though. You add sensors, control motion, control LED's, even control a speaker. With all these resources, the relatively simple programming language can let you create a robot which 'seems' pretty intelligent.
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Try this on for size: http://www.bluebelldesign.com/FSM_explain.htm
It LOOKS interesting any way
Regards,
Bruce Bates
I tried it on for size, and it fit nicly!
Thanks
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