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Ball Grid Arrays

pjvpjv Posts: 1,903
edited 2005-04-09 15:09 in General Discussion
Hi All;

Does anyone know of a source for ball grid array blanks?

I'm designing a new board that uses the new Ubicom·IP3K processor; a 228·ball grid chip.·I would like to experiment soldering to blanks (or any defunct chips) before tackling the real units as they are somewhat costly.

I had no luck through our Google friend, so any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Peter (pjv)
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  • NewzedNewzed Posts: 2,503
    edited 2005-04-07 23:01
    Try www.soldertech.com· Phone 800-858-0604.· The are in Alabama so they are closed now.

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  • RickBRickB Posts: 395
    edited 2005-04-08 03:22
    Google is your friend. Try dummy bga.

    Rick
  • Paul BakerPaul Baker Posts: 6,351
    edited 2005-04-08 15:50
    dummy bga or practice bga are the search terms your looking for.

    Out of curiousity what did you say to the distributor to get the IP part? When I told them I was an independent inventor, that I sought to prototype using thier product with the possibility of distribution in the few thousands range, the sales associate never contacted me again. This is what made me give up on developing on the higher line of Ubicom processors, I don't want to deal with a distributor who is going to whine or ignore me if I don't buy in 10K quantities.
  • pjvpjv Posts: 1,903
    edited 2005-04-08 18:05
    Hi Rick & Paul & Sid;

    Thanks for the suggestions; Google does in fact have numerous links when the inquiry is worded the way you suggest. In fact reading a number of those links is quite enlightening.

    Paul I'm not positive, but I believe they require for you to buy their development kit, and comparatively to others' thats quite costly. I now have one of those, and supposedly my samples are on their way.

    Looks like quite a mean machine.

    Peter (pjv)
  • Paul BakerPaul Baker Posts: 6,351
    edited 2005-04-08 18:11
    Mind me asking what they are charging for the development kit?
  • pjvpjv Posts: 1,903
    edited 2005-04-08 23:41
    Paul;

    I'm not sure you want to hear.

    The standard price I was quoted was $25,000 (yes, thousand), but there was a "special" until I believe the end of March for $10,000. Clearly, they want only to support volume users.

    With that you get all the goodies, and no per-unit royalty for the IP.

    Peter (pjv)
  • Paul BakerPaul Baker Posts: 6,351
    edited 2005-04-09 15:09
    Yeah I had figured that much, its a crying shame because they are really awesome microcontrollers. The one thing I've never understood about Ubicom is that they dont seem to competitively market thier processors. There are other processors out there (Im thinking of the new generation of SOC processors) that are more versatile than the IP series, whose development platforms are a fraction of the cost and the cost per unit is the same. I've followed Ubicom for about 7 years now, and I just can't figure out what thier marketing department's method of thinking is. Though I do have to give them credit for teaming up with Parallax to promote thier mature SX line.
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