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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2004-07-22 19:45 in General Discussion
Hello from Gregg C Levine
Jon, I've got one, maybe two questions regarding this device. And a
range of
comments.
Q1 Which one did you use? I've got two parts here, one has on it,
SPO256-AL2, but no serial speech ROM, SPRO-016. And the other has one
with it,
SPO256-017. But I suspect that it's the same as the first, since the
notes that came with it, call it by the first one's name. Oh, and did
you use an SPRO-016 in your design? And can you post a photo of it,
if it still exists?

Q2 How old is this design? Despite the date on the uploaded code, I am
asking that one, because RS discontinued the speech synthesizer kit,
a long time ago.

In fact I came across a part that was supposed to be used as a
companion to
the SPO256-AL2, it's a text to speech synthesizer chip, a CTS256-AL2,
based
on the GI PIC7000, which was a second source of the TI TMS7000.

But I suspect it was even before the Stamp was invented because that
part is preprogrammed for the job, and making it work, is something
short of the classic miracle. I prefer using the Stamp for this, a
BS1, in fact.

Incidentally, any replies to this, will be done from the 'post'
function of
the website, as I am having some technical difficulties as my ISP
recovers
from the severe storms we had this past week. Although I suspect they
might
get things repaired by the beginning of next week.
Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
"The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
"Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-07-17 13:53
    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg C Levine"
    <hansolofalcon@w...> wrote:
    > Hello from Gregg C Levine
    > Jon, I've got one, maybe two questions regarding this device. And a
    > range of
    > comments.
    > Q1 Which one did you use? I've got two parts here, one has on it,
    > SPO256-AL2, but no serial speech ROM, SPRO-016. And the other has
    one
    > with it,
    > SPO256-017. But I suspect that it's the same as the first, since
    the
    > notes that came with it, call it by the first one's name. Oh, and
    did
    > you use an SPRO-016 in your design? And can you post a photo of it,
    > if it still exists?
    >
    > Q2 How old is this design? Despite the date on the uploaded code, I
    am
    > asking that one, because RS discontinued the speech synthesizer
    kit,
    > a long time ago.
    >
    > In fact I came across a part that was supposed to be used as a
    > companion to
    > the SPO256-AL2, it's a text to speech synthesizer chip, a
    CTS256-AL2,
    > based
    > on the GI PIC7000, which was a second source of the TI TMS7000.
    >
    > But I suspect it was even before the Stamp was invented because
    that
    > part is preprogrammed for the job, and making it work, is something
    > short of the classic miracle. I prefer using the Stamp for this, a
    > BS1, in fact.
    >
    > Incidentally, any replies to this, will be done from the 'post'
    > function of
    > the website, as I am having some technical difficulties as my ISP
    > recovers
    > from the severe storms we had this past week. Although I suspect
    they
    > might
    > get things repaired by the beginning of next week.
    >
    > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    >
    > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    > "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi

    I'm not Jon Williams - but I did have similar questions a few months
    ago when I built my own speech synthesizer using this chip. If you
    search the archives on this yahoo group for 'SPO256" - you'll find the
    entire discussion I had with Jon 6-7 months ago.

    My speech chip is labeled SPO256A-AL2 and it's dated 1981 - so it's
    truely ancient. I actually bought this part in the early 80's but
    couldn't get it to work so I shelved the project for 20 years. I'm
    happy to report I finally did get it working with Jon's help. The
    original circuit and program for this BASIC Stamp 1 project was
    published a few years ago in Nuts&Volts, column 40. You can download
    the article and program here (Volume 1):

    http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/downloads/nvcol
    umns/Nuts_Volts_Downloads.asp

    Since this chip requires 8 input pins - the circuit in column 40 uses
    a shift register to cut this down to 4. If you're using a BS2 - you
    have plenty of pins to make a direct connection without using the
    shift register. I hope you have a large breadboard if you're planning
    on using the BS1 with shift register - because you'll also need to
    build a small audio amplifier (one based on the LM386 is in the
    article) and I also had to rig up external power based on a 7805
    regulator (because the speech chip requires more power than my
    Homework board could provide).
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-07-17 16:06
    Hello from Gregg C Levine
    That is the exact same part I have. Both of them. I had temporarily
    forgotten about the N&V resource, thank you for reminding me.

    Actually the SPO256 I am using has its own perfboard to run on. I
    decided then mount it on one of the boards from RS to support it,
    since it was too big to use a breadboard. The logic that will be
    controlling it, a SN74164, for example will be on my breadboard.

    Since the code from the files folders is using the top portion of the
    Stamp1 I/O region, that means I should be able to squeeze in my own
    devices.
    Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi



    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "fab4442003" <fab4442003@y...>
    wrote:
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg C Levine"
    > <hansolofalcon@w...> wrote:
    > > Hello from Gregg C Levine
    > > Jon, I've got one, maybe two questions regarding this device. And
    a
    > > range of
    > > comments.
    > > Q1 Which one did you use? I've got two parts here, one has on it,
    > > SPO256-AL2, but no serial speech ROM, SPRO-016. And the other has
    > one
    > > with it,
    > > SPO256-017. But I suspect that it's the same as the first, since
    > the
    > > notes that came with it, call it by the first one's name. Oh, and
    > did
    > > you use an SPRO-016 in your design? And can you post a photo of
    it,
    > > if it still exists?
    > >
    > > Q2 How old is this design? Despite the date on the uploaded code,
    I
    > am
    > > asking that one, because RS discontinued the speech synthesizer
    > kit,
    > > a long time ago.
    > >
    > > In fact I came across a part that was supposed to be used as a
    > > companion to
    > > the SPO256-AL2, it's a text to speech synthesizer chip, a
    > CTS256-AL2,
    > > based
    > > on the GI PIC7000, which was a second source of the TI TMS7000.
    > >
    > > But I suspect it was even before the Stamp was invented because
    > that
    > > part is preprogrammed for the job, and making it work, is
    something
    > > short of the classic miracle. I prefer using the Stamp for this,
    a
    > > BS1, in fact.
    > >
    > > Incidentally, any replies to this, will be done from the 'post'
    > > function of
    > > the website, as I am having some technical difficulties as my ISP
    > > recovers
    > > from the severe storms we had this past week. Although I suspect
    > they
    > > might
    > > get things repaired by the beginning of next week.
    > >
    > > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    > >
    > > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    > > "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    >
    > I'm not Jon Williams - but I did have similar questions a few months
    > ago when I built my own speech synthesizer using this chip. If you
    > search the archives on this yahoo group for 'SPO256" - you'll find
    the
    > entire discussion I had with Jon 6-7 months ago.
    >
    > My speech chip is labeled SPO256A-AL2 and it's dated 1981 - so it's
    > truely ancient. I actually bought this part in the early 80's but
    > couldn't get it to work so I shelved the project for 20 years. I'm
    > happy to report I finally did get it working with Jon's help. The
    > original circuit and program for this BASIC Stamp 1 project was
    > published a few years ago in Nuts&Volts, column 40. You can download
    > the article and program here (Volume 1):
    >
    > http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/downloads/nvcol
    > umns/Nuts_Volts_Downloads.asp
    >
    > Since this chip requires 8 input pins - the circuit in column 40
    uses
    > a shift register to cut this down to 4. If you're using a BS2 - you
    > have plenty of pins to make a direct connection without using the
    > shift register. I hope you have a large breadboard if you're
    planning
    > on using the BS1 with shift register - because you'll also need to
    > build a small audio amplifier (one based on the LM386 is in the
    > article) and I also had to rig up external power based on a 7805
    > regulator (because the speech chip requires more power than my
    > Homework board could provide).
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-07-19 14:35
    I've only ever used the SPO256-AL2. I don't know how old it is, but I
    do know it was around when I was in high school (late 70s); so it's not
    a kid. I have seen other parts for variants of the chip, but like I
    said, I've never personally use them; I tend to keep things simple.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    -- Dallas Office


    Original Message
    From: Gregg C Levine [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=rjgdz2ivBh1lgYVHbf08nbsma9TDq4p1ijt1jURp4ereoYnAWbP7w2BphnuHqbSpRvMpVUzdwlA3u6WCdqaeT14mqF2Vpxr3ng]hansolofalcon@w...[/url
    Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:24 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SP0256 Questions


    Hello from Gregg C Levine
    Jon, I've got one, maybe two questions regarding this device. And a
    range of
    comments.
    Q1 Which one did you use? I've got two parts here, one has on it,
    SPO256-AL2, but no serial speech ROM, SPRO-016. And the other has one
    with it,
    SPO256-017. But I suspect that it's the same as the first, since the
    notes that came with it, call it by the first one's name. Oh, and did
    you use an SPRO-016 in your design? And can you post a photo of it,
    if it still exists?

    Q2 How old is this design? Despite the date on the uploaded code, I am
    asking that one, because RS discontinued the speech synthesizer kit,
    a long time ago.

    In fact I came across a part that was supposed to be used as a
    companion to
    the SPO256-AL2, it's a text to speech synthesizer chip, a CTS256-AL2,
    based
    on the GI PIC7000, which was a second source of the TI TMS7000.

    But I suspect it was even before the Stamp was invented because that
    part is preprogrammed for the job, and making it work, is something
    short of the classic miracle. I prefer using the Stamp for this, a
    BS1, in fact.

    Incidentally, any replies to this, will be done from the 'post'
    function of
    the website, as I am having some technical difficulties as my ISP
    recovers
    from the severe storms we had this past week. Although I suspect they
    might
    get things repaired by the beginning of next week.
    Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-07-21 15:43
    Hi,

    1. The SP0256-AL2 and the SP0256-017 are the same except for the
    sounds they have programmed in the them. The -AL2 has 59 allophones
    while the -017 has video game related words. I believe both support
    the SPR0-016 ROM to add additional words.

    2. The design is pretty old. Radio Shack sold seconds of the SP0256-
    AL2 and the SP0256-19 during the 80's but the design was around
    sometime in the late 70's. The SP0256 was the next generation of the
    SP0250 which was much more difficult to program. GI did make an
    SP1000 with speech recognition and synthesis in one chip but that
    never really saw the light of day.

    When GI was bought by Microchip, Microchip took over all the GI
    designs however no one at Microchip that I have talked to knows
    anything about the SP0256-AL2 and they do not seems to have the chip
    masks. Rochester Electronics owns many of the old GI masks (SP1000,
    etc...) but they do not have the SP0256-AL2 mask either.

    3. The CTS-256 was also sold by Radio Shack during the 80's. It used
    an algorithm from the Navel Research Lab text to code to convert
    ASCII test to SP0256-AL2 codes. IMHO, it did a pretty good job given
    the limited code space.

    I have a free downloadable program (CHIPTALK) on my website that
    takes english and converts it to codes using the same algorithm.

    http://www.speechchips.com/downloads/chiptalksetup.exe

    Regards,
    Ken
    www.speechchips.com

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg C Levine"
    <hansolofalcon@w...> wrote:
    > Hello from Gregg C Levine
    > Jon, I've got one, maybe two questions regarding this device. And a
    > range of
    > comments.
    > Q1 Which one did you use? I've got two parts here, one has on it,
    > SPO256-AL2, but no serial speech ROM, SPRO-016. And the other has
    one
    > with it,
    > SPO256-017. But I suspect that it's the same as the first, since
    the
    > notes that came with it, call it by the first one's name. Oh, and
    did
    > you use an SPRO-016 in your design? And can you post a photo of it,
    > if it still exists?
    >
    > Q2 How old is this design? Despite the date on the uploaded code, I
    am
    > asking that one, because RS discontinued the speech synthesizer
    kit,
    > a long time ago.
    >
    > In fact I came across a part that was supposed to be used as a
    > companion to
    > the SPO256-AL2, it's a text to speech synthesizer chip, a CTS256-
    AL2,
    > based
    > on the GI PIC7000, which was a second source of the TI TMS7000.
    >
    > But I suspect it was even before the Stamp was invented because
    that
    > part is preprogrammed for the job, and making it work, is something
    > short of the classic miracle. I prefer using the Stamp for this, a
    > BS1, in fact.
    >
    > Incidentally, any replies to this, will be done from the 'post'
    > function of
    > the website, as I am having some technical difficulties as my ISP
    > recovers
    > from the severe storms we had this past week. Although I suspect
    they
    > might
    > get things repaired by the beginning of next week.
    >
    > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    >
    > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    > "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-07-21 22:51
    Hello from Gregg C Levine
    One correction, and one comment.
    The correction, as I understand it, GI was making chips until the
    division that is now Microchip decided to be spun off, or GI decided
    to do that. I would have to check with the folks at Microchip to
    supply the actual dates. It happened about the same time that GI
    decided to concentrate on making cable TV hardware, and support gear.
    But your essentially correct regarding GI, and Microchip.

    I have the CTS device here, I also have the documentation that RS
    provided for all three. But the one thing I didn't have was the
    material that you provided, and thank you for making that program
    available. Remember the UART that was the 1013? Or the keyboard
    encoder that was the 2376? That was theirs, too. The Apple used that
    encoder.

    And Ken, once again, thank you.
    Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    "Use the Force, Luke."· Obi-Wan Kenobi

    >
    Original Message
    > From: Ken [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=KUe-O9ykCCg_BqvwxOUYSDDh2DG897sE_4oIniHTFiHoHfo0ZsyEfLgQWuEcbPAJzmDYdhtmERfgKM1L]kenlem@m...[/url
    > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:44 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: SP0256 Questions
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > 1. The SP0256-AL2 and the SP0256-017 are the same except for the
    > sounds they have programmed in the them. The -AL2 has 59 allophones
    > while the -017 has video game related words. I believe both support
    > the SPR0-016 ROM to add additional words.
    >
    > 2. The design is pretty old. Radio Shack sold seconds of the
    SP0256-
    > AL2 and the SP0256-19 during the 80's but the design was around
    > sometime in the late 70's. The SP0256 was the next generation of
    the
    > SP0250 which was much more difficult to program. GI did make an
    > SP1000 with speech recognition and synthesis in one chip but that
    > never really saw the light of day.
    >
    > When GI was bought by Microchip, Microchip took over all the GI
    > designs however no one at Microchip that I have talked to knows
    > anything about the SP0256-AL2 and they do not seems to have the chip
    > masks. Rochester Electronics owns many of the old GI masks (SP1000,
    > etc...) but they do not have the SP0256-AL2 mask either.
    >
    > 3. The CTS-256 was also sold by Radio Shack during the 80's. It
    used
    > an algorithm from the Navel Research Lab text to code to convert
    > ASCII test to SP0256-AL2 codes. IMHO, it did a pretty good job
    given
    > the limited code space.
    >
    > I have a free downloadable program (CHIPTALK) on my website that
    > takes english and converts it to codes using the same algorithm.
    >
    > http://www.speechchips.com/downloads/chiptalksetup.exe
    >
    > Regards,
    > Ken
    > www.speechchips.com
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg C Levine"
    > <hansolofalcon@w...> wrote:
    > > Hello from Gregg C Levine
    > > Jon, I've got one, maybe two questions regarding this device. And
    a
    > > range of
    > > comments.
    > > Q1 Which one did you use? I've got two parts here, one has on it,
    > > SPO256-AL2, but no serial speech ROM, SPRO-016. And the other has
    > one
    > > with it,
    > > SPO256-017. But I suspect that it's the same as the first, since
    > the
    > > notes that came with it, call it by the first one's name. Oh, and
    > did
    > > you use an SPRO-016 in your design? And can you post a photo of
    it,
    > > if it still exists?
    > >
    > > Q2 How old is this design? Despite the date on the uploaded code,
    I
    > am
    > > asking that one, because RS discontinued the speech synthesizer
    > kit,
    > > a long time ago.
    > >
    > > In fact I came across a part that was supposed to be used as a
    > > companion to
    > > the SPO256-AL2, it's a text to speech synthesizer chip, a CTS256-
    > AL2,
    > > based
    > > on the GI PIC7000, which was a second source of the TI TMS7000.
    > >
    > > But I suspect it was even before the Stamp was invented because
    > that
    > > part is preprogrammed for the job, and making it work, is
    something
    > > short of the classic miracle. I prefer using the Stamp for this, a
    > > BS1, in fact.
    > >
    > > Incidentally, any replies to this, will be done from the 'post'
    > > function of
    > > the website, as I am having some technical difficulties as my ISP
    > > recovers
    > > from the severe storms we had this past week. Although I suspect
    > they
    > > might
    > > get things repaired by the beginning of next week.
    > >
    > > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    > >
    > > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    > > "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-07-22 14:57
    Hi Gregg,

    Thanks for the correction. I'm going to spend some time and create a
    history page for the SP0256-AL2 and I'll remember to credit you. I'd
    love to have the dates, if you wouldn't mind. Do you have a good
    contact inside Microchip?

    GI made all sorts of interesting chips for home computers!

    Thanks for the information.

    Regards,
    Ken
    http://www.speechchips.com


    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg C Levine"
    <hansolofalcon@w...> wrote:
    > Hello from Gregg C Levine
    > One correction, and one comment.
    > The correction, as I understand it, GI was making chips until the
    > division that is now Microchip decided to be spun off, or GI decided
    > to do that. I would have to check with the folks at Microchip to
    > supply the actual dates. It happened about the same time that GI
    > decided to concentrate on making cable TV hardware, and support
    gear.
    > But your essentially correct regarding GI, and Microchip.
    >
    > I have the CTS device here, I also have the documentation that RS
    > provided for all three. But the one thing I didn't have was the
    > material that you provided, and thank you for making that program
    > available. Remember the UART that was the 1013? Or the keyboard
    > encoder that was the 2376? That was theirs, too. The Apple used that
    > encoder.
    >
    > And Ken, once again, thank you.
    >
    > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    >
    > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    > "Use the Force, Luke."· Obi-Wan Kenobi
    >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: Ken [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:kenlem@m...]
    > > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:44 AM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: SP0256 Questions
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > 1. The SP0256-AL2 and the SP0256-017 are the same except for the
    > > sounds they have programmed in the them. The -AL2 has 59
    allophones
    > > while the -017 has video game related words. I believe both
    support
    > > the SPR0-016 ROM to add additional words.
    > >
    > > 2. The design is pretty old. Radio Shack sold seconds of the
    > SP0256-
    > > AL2 and the SP0256-19 during the 80's but the design was around
    > > sometime in the late 70's. The SP0256 was the next generation of
    > the
    > > SP0250 which was much more difficult to program. GI did make an
    > > SP1000 with speech recognition and synthesis in one chip but that
    > > never really saw the light of day.
    > >
    > > When GI was bought by Microchip, Microchip took over all the GI
    > > designs however no one at Microchip that I have talked to knows
    > > anything about the SP0256-AL2 and they do not seems to have the
    chip
    > > masks. Rochester Electronics owns many of the old GI masks
    (SP1000,
    > > etc...) but they do not have the SP0256-AL2 mask either.
    > >
    > > 3. The CTS-256 was also sold by Radio Shack during the 80's. It
    > used
    > > an algorithm from the Navel Research Lab text to code to convert
    > > ASCII test to SP0256-AL2 codes. IMHO, it did a pretty good job
    > given
    > > the limited code space.
    > >
    > > I have a free downloadable program (CHIPTALK) on my website that
    > > takes english and converts it to codes using the same algorithm.
    > >
    > > http://www.speechchips.com/downloads/chiptalksetup.exe
    > >
    > > Regards,
    > > Ken
    > > www.speechchips.com
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg C Levine"
    > > <hansolofalcon@w...> wrote:
    > > > Hello from Gregg C Levine
    > > > Jon, I've got one, maybe two questions regarding this device.
    And
    > a
    > > > range of
    > > > comments.
    > > > Q1 Which one did you use? I've got two parts here, one has on
    it,
    > > > SPO256-AL2, but no serial speech ROM, SPRO-016. And the other
    has
    > > one
    > > > with it,
    > > > SPO256-017. But I suspect that it's the same as the first, since
    > > the
    > > > notes that came with it, call it by the first one's name. Oh,
    and
    > > did
    > > > you use an SPRO-016 in your design? And can you post a photo of
    > it,
    > > > if it still exists?
    > > >
    > > > Q2 How old is this design? Despite the date on the uploaded
    code,
    > I
    > > am
    > > > asking that one, because RS discontinued the speech synthesizer
    > > kit,
    > > > a long time ago.
    > > >
    > > > In fact I came across a part that was supposed to be used as a
    > > > companion to
    > > > the SPO256-AL2, it's a text to speech synthesizer chip, a
    CTS256-
    > > AL2,
    > > > based
    > > > on the GI PIC7000, which was a second source of the TI TMS7000.
    > > >
    > > > But I suspect it was even before the Stamp was invented because
    > > that
    > > > part is preprogrammed for the job, and making it work, is
    > something
    > > > short of the classic miracle. I prefer using the Stamp for
    this, a
    > > > BS1, in fact.
    > > >
    > > > Incidentally, any replies to this, will be done from the 'post'
    > > > function of
    > > > the website, as I am having some technical difficulties as my
    ISP
    > > > recovers
    > > > from the severe storms we had this past week. Although I suspect
    > > they
    > > > might
    > > > get things repaired by the beginning of next week.
    > > >
    > > > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    > > >
    > > > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    > > > "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-07-22 19:45
    Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine
    Not really. I knew a few people at their offices somewhere on LI, back
    about five or more years back. They might still be there, then again,
    they might not. Best thing to do would be to hit their website, and
    check its histories pages. Yes they did. I also have here the GI chip
    that made sounds.

    And thanks!
    Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    "Use the Force, Luke."· Obi-Wan Kenobi

    >
    Original Message
    > From: Ken [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=NGGtnDT_gOFf6BaKHSwF0bSPT3rfQ8-stbn9MjGFI7ibXq3iFYrGZTbtqL-OMD2Yn5-ff_lR7Tu6sB9y]kenlem@m...[/url
    > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:57 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: SP0256 Questions
    >
    > Hi Gregg,
    >
    > Thanks for the correction. I'm going to spend some time and create
    a
    > history page for the SP0256-AL2 and I'll remember to credit you. I'd
    > love to have the dates, if you wouldn't mind. Do you have a good
    > contact inside Microchip?
    >
    > GI made all sorts of interesting chips for home computers!
    >
    > Thanks for the information.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Ken
    > http://www.speechchips.com
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg C Levine"
    > <hansolofalcon@w...> wrote:
    > > Hello from Gregg C Levine
    > > One correction, and one comment.
    > > The correction, as I understand it, GI was making chips until the
    > > division that is now Microchip decided to be spun off, or GI
    decided
    > > to do that. I would have to check with the folks at Microchip to
    > > supply the actual dates. It happened about the same time that GI
    > > decided to concentrate on making cable TV hardware, and support
    > gear.
    > > But your essentially correct regarding GI, and Microchip.
    > >
    > > I have the CTS device here, I also have the documentation that RS
    > > provided for all three. But the one thing I didn't have was the
    > > material that you provided, and thank you for making that program
    > > available. Remember the UART that was the 1013? Or the keyboard
    > > encoder that was the 2376? That was theirs, too. The Apple used
    that
    > > encoder.
    > >
    > > And Ken, once again, thank you.
    > >
    > > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    > >
    > > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    > > "Use the Force, Luke."· Obi-Wan Kenobi
    > >
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > > From: Ken [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:kenlem@m...]
    > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:44 AM
    > > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: SP0256 Questions
    > > >
    > > > Hi,
    > > >
    > > > 1. The SP0256-AL2 and the SP0256-017 are the same except for the
    > > > sounds they have programmed in the them. The -AL2 has 59
    > allophones
    > > > while the -017 has video game related words. I believe both
    > support
    > > > the SPR0-016 ROM to add additional words.
    > > >
    > > > 2. The design is pretty old. Radio Shack sold seconds of the
    > > SP0256-
    > > > AL2 and the SP0256-19 during the 80's but the design was around
    > > > sometime in the late 70's. The SP0256 was the next generation
    of
    > > the
    > > > SP0250 which was much more difficult to program. GI did make an
    > > > SP1000 with speech recognition and synthesis in one chip but
    that
    > > > never really saw the light of day.
    > > >
    > > > When GI was bought by Microchip, Microchip took over all the GI
    > > > designs however no one at Microchip that I have talked to knows
    > > > anything about the SP0256-AL2 and they do not seems to have the
    > chip
    > > > masks. Rochester Electronics owns many of the old GI masks
    > (SP1000,
    > > > etc...) but they do not have the SP0256-AL2 mask either.
    > > >
    > > > 3. The CTS-256 was also sold by Radio Shack during the 80's. It
    > > used
    > > > an algorithm from the Navel Research Lab text to code to convert
    > > > ASCII test to SP0256-AL2 codes. IMHO, it did a pretty good job
    > > given
    > > > the limited code space.
    > > >
    > > > I have a free downloadable program (CHIPTALK) on my website that
    > > > takes english and converts it to codes using the same algorithm.
    > > >
    > > > http://www.speechchips.com/downloads/chiptalksetup.exe
    > > >
    > > > Regards,
    > > > Ken
    > > > www.speechchips.com
    > > >
    > > > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg C Levine"
    > > > <hansolofalcon@w...> wrote:
    > > > > Hello from Gregg C Levine
    > > > > Jon, I've got one, maybe two questions regarding this device.
    > And
    > > a
    > > > > range of
    > > > > comments.
    > > > > Q1 Which one did you use? I've got two parts here, one has on
    > it,
    > > > > SPO256-AL2, but no serial speech ROM, SPRO-016. And the other
    > has
    > > > one
    > > > > with it,
    > > > > SPO256-017. But I suspect that it's the same as the first,
    since
    > > > the
    > > > > notes that came with it, call it by the first one's name. Oh,
    > and
    > > > did
    > > > > you use an SPRO-016 in your design? And can you post a photo
    of
    > > it,
    > > > > if it still exists?
    > > > >
    > > > > Q2 How old is this design? Despite the date on the uploaded
    > code,
    > > I
    > > > am
    > > > > asking that one, because RS discontinued the speech
    synthesizer
    > > > kit,
    > > > > a long time ago.
    > > > >
    > > > > In fact I came across a part that was supposed to be used as a
    > > > > companion to
    > > > > the SPO256-AL2, it's a text to speech synthesizer chip, a
    > CTS256-
    > > > AL2,
    > > > > based
    > > > > on the GI PIC7000, which was a second source of the TI
    TMS7000.
    > > > >
    > > > > But I suspect it was even before the Stamp was invented
    because
    > > > that
    > > > > part is preprogrammed for the job, and making it work, is
    > > something
    > > > > short of the classic miracle. I prefer using the Stamp for
    > this, a
    > > > > BS1, in fact.
    > > > >
    > > > > Incidentally, any replies to this, will be done from the
    'post'
    > > > > function of
    > > > > the website, as I am having some technical difficulties as my
    > ISP
    > > > > recovers
    > > > > from the severe storms we had this past week. Although I
    suspect
    > > > they
    > > > > might
    > > > > get things repaired by the beginning of next week.
    > > > >
    > > > > Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@w...
    > > > >
    > > > > "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
    > > > > "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi
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