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3 phase inverter using Stamp2

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2004-07-19 10:42 in General Discussion
I would like to make a 3 phase inverter for varaible speed control of
small 3 phase motors using one of the Stamps. The 3 phase sine wave
generation process is well documented on various web sites, and
requires an fast accurate variable timebase and lookup table to drive
the IGBT's. It does not seem to be easily achieved using a Stamp2.
Has anyone any experience or links on this topic ?

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-07-17 14:02
    > I would like to make a 3 phase inverter for variable speed control of
    > small 3 phase motors using one of the Stamps. The 3 phase sine wave
    > generation process is well documented on various web sites, and
    > requires an fast accurate variable timebase and lookup table to drive
    > the IGBT's. It does not seem to be easily achieved using a Stamp2.
    > Has anyone any experience or links on this topic ?

    Hi There:

    For what they cost nowadays, you may as well just buy a drive from someone
    like automationdirect.com and then do the control interface to the outside
    world with the stamp. If you also configure the circuit properly, you can
    make the variable speed drive work as a phase converter to make three phase
    from single phase power.

    The other approach is to take existing ASIC's that can generate the PWM
    algorithm plus provide the interlocking between the inverter IGBT's and link
    them to some other ASIC's so that you can just use the stamp for things like
    external control interfacing. There is a great deal of satisfaction in
    rolling your own drive but it can be very time consuming.

    A small cautionary note about IGBT's that I have seen on all the variable
    speed drives I have ever serviced: They require not only isolator chips but
    the transistors that fire the positive voltage rail to the three phase
    output need INDIVIDUAL supplies. This means you need a power supply supply
    system that has four isolated supplies to drive the IGBT's (unless someone
    like International Recitifier has come up with a firing interface IC that
    does this) plus another isolated power supply section for the logic
    controls. This can be quite a challenge. Also IGBT's are very static
    sensitive and each supply must provide +15VDC/-15VDC to make them work
    properly. If the drive is small enough you could substitute power MOSFET's
    but the requirements for isolated supplies are still needed.

    Hopefully this sheds some light on the subject. Let me know if you need any
    further information.

    Regards,

    Gerry Shand
    res@i...
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-07-19 10:42
    In a message dated 7/17/2004 9:08:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    res@i... writes:

    If you also configure the circuit properly, you can
    make the variable speed drive work as a phase converter to make three phase
    from single phase power.



    Actually, all you need to do for this is to purchase a single phase input
    inverter with a 3 phase output. Many of the European machine manufactureres do
    this as a normal OEM item. They are less expensive and even if you only
    have 3 phase power going to that machine, all you have to do is use 2 of the 3
    three phase lines for single phase power.

    I also agree, you don't want to try and re-invent the wheel on this. You
    will be working with "line" voltages which could be as high a 600 or more Vac
    and are lethal. Even in a residential evironment it would probably be 220 Vac
    and that too can be lethal. The manufacturers of these units put a lot of
    safety features into them to protect not only the equipment but people as well.

    Good luck,

    P.S. If all you want to do is control the speed, a plain old potentiometer
    works great with these units. Of course, it isn't quite as glamorous as
    using a Stamp and probably not nearly the fun.



    Randy Abernathy
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