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A guy I work with in Maryland is British and gets big music speakers
(concert cabinets) shipped from England, and he's always talking about this
or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So you may want to use the
singular version of "stone" rather than the plural "stones" in conversation,
but I'm not too sure of all the usage etiquette.
We could also use fractional fathoms, I suppose.
Bob's your Uncle....
Mike Sokol
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From: "SB" <steve.brady@r...>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> Although Great Britain still weighs some things in "stones" (approx =
14lbs
> or ~6kg).
> what is "stones"...is that imperial??
>
>
>
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> > Chuck
> > 0.1" = 2.54mm.
> > Great Britain and Canada already adopted the metric system.
> > As always, USA does it his own way.
> > Regards
> > ECO
> >
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> > From: "Chuck Britton" <britton@a...>
> > To: "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>;
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> > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
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> > > purely out of curiosity - is there ANY difference between 0.1" and
0.25
> mm?
> > > If we (US) still use the inch thing - is anyone (or group) planning
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(concert cabinets) shipped from England, and he's always talking about this
or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So you may want to use the
singular version of "stone" rather than the plural "stones" in conversation,
but I'm not too sure of all the usage etiquette.
We could also use fractional fathoms, I suppose.
Bob's your Uncle....
Mike Sokol
mike@f...
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From: "SB" <steve.brady@r...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> Although Great Britain still weighs some things in "stones" (approx =
14lbs
> or ~6kg).
> what is "stones"...is that imperial??
>
>
>
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> From: "ECO" <ecourt@s...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
>
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> > Chuck
> > 0.1" = 2.54mm.
> > Great Britain and Canada already adopted the metric system.
> > As always, USA does it his own way.
> > Regards
> > ECO
> >
> >
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> > From: "Chuck Britton" <britton@a...>
> > To: "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>;
<basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 4:08 PM
> > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> >
> >
> > > purely out of curiosity - is there ANY difference between 0.1" and
0.25
> mm?
> > > If we (US) still use the inch thing - is anyone (or group) planning
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referring to personal weight, in industry most use
pounds and ounces. Although this year when I went over
nearly everything was only listed as metric really
confusing especially when I had to shop in a plumbing
dept - 22mm pipe aaaaaghhhh.
Even though I use metric most of the time some things
shouldn't change like 1/2" pipe. - I must be older
than I realized.
Nigel (Ex Brit)
--- Mike Sokol <mike@f...> wrote:
> A guy I work with in Maryland is British and gets
> big music speakers
> (concert cabinets) shipped from England, and he's
> always talking about this
> or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So you
> may want to use the
> singular version of "stone" rather than the plural
> "stones" in conversation,
> but I'm not too sure of all the usage etiquette.
>
> We could also use fractional fathoms, I suppose.
>
> Bob's your Uncle....
>
> Mike Sokol
> mike@f...
>
>
Original Message
> From: "SB" <steve.brady@r...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
>
>
> > Although Great Britain still weighs some things in
> "stones" (approx =
> 14lbs
> > or ~6kg).
> > what is "stones"...is that imperial??
> >
> >
> >
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> > From: "ECO" <ecourt@s...>
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> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> >
> >
> > > Chuck
> > > 0.1" = 2.54mm.
> > > Great Britain and Canada already adopted the
> metric system.
> > > As always, USA does it his own way.
> > > Regards
> > > ECO
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: "Chuck Britton"
> <britton@a...>
> > > To: "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>;
> <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 4:08 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> > >
> > >
> > > > purely out of curiosity - is there ANY
> difference between 0.1" and
> 0.25
> > mm?
> > > > If we (US) still use the inch thing - is
> anyone (or group) planning
> the
> > change?
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the equivilent of 1/2" the main supply of plumbing
pipe used to be 1/2", 3/4" and 1" and now it would
seem they use 15mm and 22mm (should have written that
the first time)
--- Nigel Emms <rulingshogun@y...> wrote:
> In my experience most use the term 'stones' when
> referring to personal weight, in industry most use
> pounds and ounces. Although this year when I went
> over
> nearly everything was only listed as metric really
> confusing especially when I had to shop in a
> plumbing
> dept - 22mm pipe aaaaaghhhh.
> Even though I use metric most of the time some
> things
> shouldn't change like 1/2" pipe. - I must be older
> than I realized.
>
> Nigel (Ex Brit)
>
> --- Mike Sokol <mike@f...> wrote:
> > A guy I work with in Maryland is British and gets
> > big music speakers
> > (concert cabinets) shipped from England, and he's
> > always talking about this
> > or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So you
> > may want to use the
> > singular version of "stone" rather than the plural
> > "stones" in conversation,
> > but I'm not too sure of all the usage etiquette.
> >
> > We could also use fractional fathoms, I suppose.
> >
> > Bob's your Uncle....
> >
> > Mike Sokol
> > mike@f...
> >
> >
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> > From: "SB" <steve.brady@r...>
> > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> >
> >
> > > Although Great Britain still weighs some things
> in
> > "stones" (approx =
> > 14lbs
> > > or ~6kg).
> > > what is "stones"...is that imperial??
> > >
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: "ECO" <ecourt@s...>
> > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> > >
> > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > > 0.1" = 2.54mm.
> > > > Great Britain and Canada already adopted the
> > metric system.
> > > > As always, USA does it his own way.
> > > > Regards
> > > > ECO
> > > >
> > > >
Original Message
> > > > From: "Chuck Britton"
> > <britton@a...>
> > > > To: "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>;
> > <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 4:08 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > purely out of curiosity - is there ANY
> > difference between 0.1" and
> > 0.25
> > > mm?
> > > > > If we (US) still use the inch thing - is
> > anyone (or group) planning
> > the
> > > change?
> > > > >
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Canada. But have little perception of metric measurements.
I can picture 1/4" better than 3mm (if that's even what 1/4" is...).
Original Message
From: "Nigel Emms" <rulingshogun@y...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
> In my experience most use the term 'stones' when
> referring to personal weight, in industry most use
> pounds and ounces. Although this year when I went over
> nearly everything was only listed as metric really
> confusing especially when I had to shop in a plumbing
> dept - 22mm pipe aaaaaghhhh.
> Even though I use metric most of the time some things
> shouldn't change like 1/2" pipe. - I must be older
> than I realized.
>
> Nigel (Ex Brit)
>
> --- Mike Sokol <mike@f...> wrote:
> > A guy I work with in Maryland is British and gets
> > big music speakers
> > (concert cabinets) shipped from England, and he's
> > always talking about this
> > or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So you
> > may want to use the
> > singular version of "stone" rather than the plural
> > "stones" in conversation,
> > but I'm not too sure of all the usage etiquette.
> >
> > We could also use fractional fathoms, I suppose.
> >
> > Bob's your Uncle....
> >
> > Mike Sokol
> > mike@f...
> >
> >
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> > From: "SB" <steve.brady@r...>
> > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 6:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> >
> >
> > > Although Great Britain still weighs some things in
> > "stones" (approx =
> > 14lbs
> > > or ~6kg).
> > > what is "stones"...is that imperial??
> > >
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: "ECO" <ecourt@s...>
> > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:09 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> > >
> > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > > 0.1" = 2.54mm.
> > > > Great Britain and Canada already adopted the
> > metric system.
> > > > As always, USA does it his own way.
> > > > Regards
> > > > ECO
> > > >
> > > >
Original Message
> > > > From: "Chuck Britton"
> > <britton@a...>
> > > > To: "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>;
> > <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 4:08 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Memsic kit
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > purely out of curiosity - is there ANY
> > difference between 0.1" and
> > 0.25
> > > mm?
> > > > > If we (US) still use the inch thing - is
> > anyone (or group) planning
> > the
> > > change?
> > > > >
> > > > > this is not intended as a flame starter - just
> > curious
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>A guy I work with in Maryland is British and gets big music speakers
>(concert cabinets) shipped from England, and he's always talking about this
>or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So you may want to use the
>singular version of "stone" rather than the plural "stones" in conversation,
>but I'm not too sure of all the usage etiquette.
>
>We could also use fractional fathoms, I suppose.
>
>Bob's your Uncle....
>
>
>
Actually, Sam's your Uncle [noparse]:)[/noparse]
In the pre-metric UK you use the singular for the weight. So four (or is
it five) Stones is an old a rock group [noparse]:)[/noparse]. In the UK, 1 Stone is
exactly 14 Lbs. And an Imperial ( UK) Pint is 20 (US) Fluid ounces.
But there are still 8 UK pints to an Imperial Gallon. Be carefull if
purchasing a UK car so that you understand what it's mpg really
means.The number is higher than it would be in the US.
8 Stone is 1 " hundredweight - cwt." or 112 Lbs. 20 Hundredweight is
an English Ton of 2240 Lbs. So there is a hierarchy if you care enough
to follow it. Most of the different measures arose from the practices of
the various "Guilds", who were the craft group forerunners of the
different sectors of the later industries. Naturally they came up with
schemes of units that closely fitted the materials they dealt with.
Carats for jewelry, Stones for dry goods, drams for spirits, pints and
gallons for consumable liquids. Not sure who came up with the Pounds,
Shillings and Pence for the currency.
To go somewhat to topic, I remember trying to write complex assembler
sub routines to handle English accounting, I don't think any early
computer languages had UK weights and measures functions built in.
Although when living there, just about every body used to do the maths
in their heads and seldom were any mistakes made.
Andy - also an Ex- Brit
Shillings / Pence Odd names, but probably quite explanable back in the
day.
And don't forget Quid (which is their slang for dollar -- Like BUCK).
I have some old coins from relatives in Ireland and amongst them is a
Farthing (1/2 pence?). Another mystery to what this evolved from
(namewise).
Original Message
From: "Andy Reichert" <andy_r@i...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
> Mike Sokol wrote:
>
> >A guy I work with in Maryland is British and gets big music speakers
> >(concert cabinets) shipped from England, and he's always talking about
this
> >or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So you may want to use the
> >singular version of "stone" rather than the plural "stones" in
conversation,
> >but I'm not too sure of all the usage etiquette.
> >
> >We could also use fractional fathoms, I suppose.
> >
> >Bob's your Uncle....
> >
> >
> >
> Actually, Sam's your Uncle [noparse]:)[/noparse]
>
> In the pre-metric UK you use the singular for the weight. So four (or is
> it five) Stones is an old a rock group [noparse]:)[/noparse]. In the UK, 1 Stone is
> exactly 14 Lbs. And an Imperial ( UK) Pint is 20 (US) Fluid ounces.
> But there are still 8 UK pints to an Imperial Gallon. Be carefull if
> purchasing a UK car so that you understand what it's mpg really
> means.The number is higher than it would be in the US.
>
> 8 Stone is 1 " hundredweight - cwt." or 112 Lbs. 20 Hundredweight is
> an English Ton of 2240 Lbs. So there is a hierarchy if you care enough
> to follow it. Most of the different measures arose from the practices of
> the various "Guilds", who were the craft group forerunners of the
> different sectors of the later industries. Naturally they came up with
> schemes of units that closely fitted the materials they dealt with.
> Carats for jewelry, Stones for dry goods, drams for spirits, pints and
> gallons for consumable liquids. Not sure who came up with the Pounds,
> Shillings and Pence for the currency.
>
> To go somewhat to topic, I remember trying to write complex assembler
> sub routines to handle English accounting, I don't think any early
> computer languages had UK weights and measures functions built in.
> Although when living there, just about every body used to do the maths
> in their heads and seldom were any mistakes made.
>
> Andy - also an Ex- Brit
>
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thinking about new things.
According to my British engineering buddy, Pence in England is called "P"
for short, which gives the small children a big giggle every time they hear
it. And last time I was in Canada I ended up with "toonies" and "loonies",
two and three dollar coins, if memory serves.
To get back on topic, I may get our resident Stamp programmer (my 13
year old son, Alan), to come up with a stamp-based US to Brit to US
converter just for fun. We're looking for a few interesting Stamp based
projects for when he starts high school this year. I think a keypad and LCD
display for his BOE could be the next step in the learning curve...
Mike Sokol
mike@f...
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Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
> Very Interesting.
>
> Shillings / Pence Odd names, but probably quite explanable back in the
> day.
> And don't forget Quid (which is their slang for dollar -- Like BUCK).
>
> I have some old coins from relatives in Ireland and amongst them is a
> Farthing (1/2 pence?). Another mystery to what this evolved from
> (namewise).
>
>
>
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> From: "Andy Reichert" <andy_r@i...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
>
>
> > Mike Sokol wrote:
> >
> > >A guy I work with in Maryland is British and gets big music speakers
> > >(concert cabinets) shipped from England, and he's always talking about
> this
> > >or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So you may want to use the
> > >singular version of "stone" rather than the plural "stones" in
> conversation,
> > >but I'm not too sure of all the usage etiquette.
> > >
> > >We could also use fractional fathoms, I suppose.
> > >
> > >Bob's your Uncle....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Actually, Sam's your Uncle [noparse]:)[/noparse]
> >
> > In the pre-metric UK you use the singular for the weight. So four (or is
> > it five) Stones is an old a rock group [noparse]:)[/noparse]. In the UK, 1 Stone is
> > exactly 14 Lbs. And an Imperial ( UK) Pint is 20 (US) Fluid ounces.
> > But there are still 8 UK pints to an Imperial Gallon. Be carefull if
> > purchasing a UK car so that you understand what it's mpg really
> > means.The number is higher than it would be in the US.
> >
> > 8 Stone is 1 " hundredweight - cwt." or 112 Lbs. 20 Hundredweight is
> > an English Ton of 2240 Lbs. So there is a hierarchy if you care enough
> > to follow it. Most of the different measures arose from the practices of
> > the various "Guilds", who were the craft group forerunners of the
> > different sectors of the later industries. Naturally they came up with
> > schemes of units that closely fitted the materials they dealt with.
> > Carats for jewelry, Stones for dry goods, drams for spirits, pints and
> > gallons for consumable liquids. Not sure who came up with the Pounds,
> > Shillings and Pence for the currency.
> >
> > To go somewhat to topic, I remember trying to write complex assembler
> > sub routines to handle English accounting, I don't think any early
> > computer languages had UK weights and measures functions built in.
> > Although when living there, just about every body used to do the maths
> > in their heads and seldom were any mistakes made.
> >
> > Andy - also an Ex- Brit
> >
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hence the term loonie
The two dollar coin has come to be know as the toonie (Two Loonies)
The joke up here is to hold up a toonie (2 dollar coin) and ask the question
"What does an American call this?" The answer is of course "A dollar".
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From: Mike Sokol [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=HGxXwb9AMBcpwMJhuuvc6n_v_C3pxkg6OBTj26YQjLgP4E-P-Kv4Lk1_GwP4dvAoW6eSKaj3ftr83H4eWNvnWQ]mike@f...[/url
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:18 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
Sorry this has gotten sooooooooooooooooo off topic, but that's what keep us
thinking about new things.
According to my British engineering buddy, Pence in England is called "P"
for short, which gives the small children a big giggle every time they hear
it. And last time I was in Canada I ended up with "toonies" and "loonies",
two and three dollar coins, if memory serves.
To get back on topic, I may get our resident Stamp programmer (my 13
year old son, Alan), to come up with a stamp-based US to Brit to US
converter just for fun. We're looking for a few interesting Stamp based
projects for when he starts high school this year. I think a keypad and LCD
display for his BOE could be the next step in the learning curve...
Mike Sokol
mike@f...
Original Message
From: "SB" <steve.brady@r...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
> Very Interesting.
>
> Shillings / Pence Odd names, but probably quite explanable back in the
> day.
> And don't forget Quid (which is their slang for dollar -- Like BUCK).
>
> I have some old coins from relatives in Ireland and amongst them is a
> Farthing (1/2 pence?). Another mystery to what this evolved from
> (namewise).
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: "Andy Reichert" <andy_r@i...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
>
>
> > Mike Sokol wrote:
> >
> > >A guy I work with in Maryland is British and gets big music speakers
> > >(concert cabinets) shipped from England, and he's always talking about
> this
> > >or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So you may want to use the
> > >singular version of "stone" rather than the plural "stones" in
> conversation,
> > >but I'm not too sure of all the usage etiquette.
> > >
> > >We could also use fractional fathoms, I suppose.
> > >
> > >Bob's your Uncle....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Actually, Sam's your Uncle [noparse]:)[/noparse]
> >
> > In the pre-metric UK you use the singular for the weight. So four (or is
> > it five) Stones is an old a rock group [noparse]:)[/noparse]. In the UK, 1 Stone is
> > exactly 14 Lbs. And an Imperial ( UK) Pint is 20 (US) Fluid ounces.
> > But there are still 8 UK pints to an Imperial Gallon. Be carefull if
> > purchasing a UK car so that you understand what it's mpg really
> > means.The number is higher than it would be in the US.
> >
> > 8 Stone is 1 " hundredweight - cwt." or 112 Lbs. 20 Hundredweight is
> > an English Ton of 2240 Lbs. So there is a hierarchy if you care enough
> > to follow it. Most of the different measures arose from the practices of
> > the various "Guilds", who were the craft group forerunners of the
> > different sectors of the later industries. Naturally they came up with
> > schemes of units that closely fitted the materials they dealt with.
> > Carats for jewelry, Stones for dry goods, drams for spirits, pints and
> > gallons for consumable liquids. Not sure who came up with the Pounds,
> > Shillings and Pence for the currency.
> >
> > To go somewhat to topic, I remember trying to write complex assembler
> > sub routines to handle English accounting, I don't think any early
> > computer languages had UK weights and measures functions built in.
> > Although when living there, just about every body used to do the maths
> > in their heads and seldom were any mistakes made.
> >
> > Andy - also an Ex- Brit
> >
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> From: Mike Sokol [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=brA38E8h8-PQyUaNrNmtN8iMysiUg7iqrW6zf46s_Je7ANcoqlgEFyzZydDefu1tJ7z_ruIcheNg1kw4CKFIFCM]mike@f...[/url
> Sent: July 8, 2004 09:18
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
>
> Sorry this has gotten sooooooooooooooooo off topic, but that's what keep
> us
> thinking about new things.
>
> According to my British engineering buddy, Pence in England is called "P"
> for short, which gives the small children a big giggle every time they
> hear
> it. And last time I was in Canada I ended up with "toonies" and "loonies",
> two and three dollar coins, if memory serves.
>
> To get back on topic, I may get our resident Stamp programmer (my 13
> year old son, Alan), to come up with a stamp-based US to Brit to US
> converter just for fun. We're looking for a few interesting Stamp based
> projects for when he starts high school this year. I think a keypad and
> LCD
> display for his BOE could be the next step in the learning curve...
>
> Mike Sokol
> mike@f...
the toonie is the two dollar coin. No such thing yet
as a three dollar coin. <grin>
--- Mike Sokol <mike@f...> wrote:
> Sorry this has gotten sooooooooooooooooo off topic,
> but that's what keep us
> thinking about new things.
>
> According to my British engineering buddy, Pence in
> England is called "P"
> for short, which gives the small children a big
> giggle every time they hear
> it. And last time I was in Canada I ended up with
> "toonies" and "loonies",
> two and three dollar coins, if memory serves.
>
> To get back on topic, I may get our resident Stamp
> programmer (my 13
> year old son, Alan), to come up with a stamp-based
> US to Brit to US
> converter just for fun. We're looking for a few
> interesting Stamp based
> projects for when he starts high school this year. I
> think a keypad and LCD
> display for his BOE could be the next step in the
> learning curve...
>
> Mike Sokol
> mike@f...
>
>
Original Message
> From: "SB" <steve.brady@r...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
>
>
> > Very Interesting.
> >
> > Shillings / Pence Odd names, but probably quite
> explanable back in the
> > day.
> > And don't forget Quid (which is their slang for
> dollar -- Like BUCK).
> >
> > I have some old coins from relatives in Ireland
> and amongst them is a
> > Farthing (1/2 pence?). Another mystery to what
> this evolved from
> > (namewise).
> >
> >
> >
Original Message
> > From: "Andy Reichert" <andy_r@i...>
> > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
> >
> >
> > > Mike Sokol wrote:
> > >
> > > >A guy I work with in Maryland is British and
> gets big music speakers
> > > >(concert cabinets) shipped from England, and
> he's always talking about
> > this
> > > >or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So
> you may want to use the
> > > >singular version of "stone" rather than the
> plural "stones" in
> > conversation,
> > > >but I'm not too sure of all the usage
> etiquette.
> > > >
> > > >We could also use fractional fathoms, I
> suppose.
> > > >
> > > >Bob's your Uncle....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Actually, Sam's your Uncle [noparse]:)[/noparse]
> > >
> > > In the pre-metric UK you use the singular for
> the weight. So four (or is
> > > it five) Stones is an old a rock group [noparse]:)[/noparse]. In
> the UK, 1 Stone is
> > > exactly 14 Lbs. And an Imperial ( UK) Pint is
> 20 (US) Fluid ounces.
> > > But there are still 8 UK pints to an Imperial
> Gallon. Be carefull if
> > > purchasing a UK car so that you understand what
> it's mpg really
> > > means.The number is higher than it would be in
> the US.
> > >
> > > 8 Stone is 1 " hundredweight - cwt." or 112
> Lbs. 20 Hundredweight is
> > > an English Ton of 2240 Lbs. So there is a
> hierarchy if you care enough
> > > to follow it. Most of the different measures
> arose from the practices of
> > > the various "Guilds", who were the craft group
> forerunners of the
> > > different sectors of the later industries.
> Naturally they came up with
> > > schemes of units that closely fitted the
> materials they dealt with.
> > > Carats for jewelry, Stones for dry goods, drams
> for spirits, pints and
> > > gallons for consumable liquids. Not sure who
> came up with the Pounds,
> > > Shillings and Pence for the currency.
> > >
> > > To go somewhat to topic, I remember trying to
> write complex assembler
> > > sub routines to handle English accounting, I
> don't think any early
> > > computer languages had UK weights and measures
> functions built in.
> > > Although when living there, just about every
> body used to do the maths
> > > in their heads and seldom were any mistakes
> made.
> > >
> > > Andy - also an Ex- Brit
> > >
> > >
> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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Those Canadians don't cut us any slack, do they..... but yes, I always got a
laugh from my seminar audience when I noted a piece of audio gear listed for
$1,000 US and got my calculator out for the Canadian dollar conversion.
Back on-topic. What do you all think would be the most straightforward
keypad and LCD add-on's to a BOE for my 13-year old to learn how to program.
Plus, I don't want to strain my own brain more than necessary for this type
of learning project.
Mike Sokol
mike@f...
Original Message
From: "Eric" <khufumen@y...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
> A loonie is a 1 dollar coin with a loon on it and the
> the toonie is the two dollar coin. No such thing yet
> as a three dollar coin. <grin>
>
>
> --- Mike Sokol <mike@f...> wrote:
> > Sorry this has gotten sooooooooooooooooo off topic,
> > but that's what keep us
> > thinking about new things.
> >
> > According to my British engineering buddy, Pence in
> > England is called "P"
> > for short, which gives the small children a big
> > giggle every time they hear
> > it. And last time I was in Canada I ended up with
> > "toonies" and "loonies",
> > two and three dollar coins, if memory serves.
> >
> > To get back on topic, I may get our resident Stamp
> > programmer (my 13
> > year old son, Alan), to come up with a stamp-based
> > US to Brit to US
> > converter just for fun. We're looking for a few
> > interesting Stamp based
> > projects for when he starts high school this year. I
> > think a keypad and LCD
> > display for his BOE could be the next step in the
> > learning curve...
> >
> > Mike Sokol
> > mike@f...
> >
> >
Original Message
> > From: "SB" <steve.brady@r...>
> > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
> >
> >
> > > Very Interesting.
> > >
> > > Shillings / Pence Odd names, but probably quite
> > explanable back in the
> > > day.
> > > And don't forget Quid (which is their slang for
> > dollar -- Like BUCK).
> > >
> > > I have some old coins from relatives in Ireland
> > and amongst them is a
> > > Farthing (1/2 pence?). Another mystery to what
> > this evolved from
> > > (namewise).
> > >
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: "Andy Reichert" <andy_r@i...>
> > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stone free....
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mike Sokol wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >A guy I work with in Maryland is British and
> > gets big music speakers
> > > > >(concert cabinets) shipped from England, and
> > he's always talking about
> > > this
> > > > >or that "weighing 20 stone or thereabout". So
> > you may want to use the
> > > > >singular version of "stone" rather than the
> > plural "stones" in
> > > conversation,
> > > > >but I'm not too sure of all the usage
> > etiquette.
> > > > >
> > > > >We could also use fractional fathoms, I
> > suppose.
> > > > >
> > > > >Bob's your Uncle....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Actually, Sam's your Uncle [noparse]:)[/noparse]
> > > >
> > > > In the pre-metric UK you use the singular for
> > the weight. So four (or is
> > > > it five) Stones is an old a rock group [noparse]:)[/noparse]. In
> > the UK, 1 Stone is
> > > > exactly 14 Lbs. And an Imperial ( UK) Pint is
> > 20 (US) Fluid ounces.
> > > > But there are still 8 UK pints to an Imperial
> > Gallon. Be carefull if
> > > > purchasing a UK car so that you understand what
> > it's mpg really
> > > > means.The number is higher than it would be in
> > the US.
> > > >
> > > > 8 Stone is 1 " hundredweight - cwt." or 112
> > Lbs. 20 Hundredweight is
> > > > an English Ton of 2240 Lbs. So there is a
> > hierarchy if you care enough
> > > > to follow it. Most of the different measures
> > arose from the practices of
> > > > the various "Guilds", who were the craft group
> > forerunners of the
> > > > different sectors of the later industries.
> > Naturally they came up with
> > > > schemes of units that closely fitted the
> > materials they dealt with.
> > > > Carats for jewelry, Stones for dry goods, drams
> > for spirits, pints and
> > > > gallons for consumable liquids. Not sure who
> > came up with the Pounds,
> > > > Shillings and Pence for the currency.
> > > >
> > > > To go somewhat to topic, I remember trying to
> > write complex assembler
> > > > sub routines to handle English accounting, I
> > don't think any early
> > > > computer languages had UK weights and measures
> > functions built in.
> > > > Although when living there, just about every
> > body used to do the maths
> > > > in their heads and seldom were any mistakes
> > made.
> > > >
> > > > Andy - also an Ex- Brit
> > > >
> > > >
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for short, which gives the small children a big giggle every time they hear
it.<
There is a reason for this, When we went from the obvious and obviously
correct Non decimal system of money with it's simple and common sense
arrangemant of ..
21 Shillings to the Guinea
20 Shillings to the Pound
5 Shillings to the Crown (also known as the Dollar)
12 Pence to the Shilling
2 Ha'pennies to the penny
4 Fathings to the penny
To the Hideous and frankly against nature arrangement of ..
100 pence to the pound.
There had to be some distinction between the OLD penny and the new penny so
the new penny became a P (the old penny remained the D (standing for denaris
(SP) a hangover from the Romans))
Justin
A Quid is a pound, not a dollar. A Farthing is a "fourthing", a quarter
of a penny. A Groat was a fourpenny coin, long since disappeared from
use.
240 was a good number of divisions for our old pound; it has more
factors than any smaller number. Try doing a third, a sixth or an eighth
of a decimal pound (or Euro, or Dollar...)
John
In message <001801c464d8$ea4e4c90$df52c545@o...>, SB
<steve.brady@r...> writes
>Very Interesting.
>
>Shillings / Pence Odd names, but probably quite explanable back in the
>day.
>And don't forget Quid (which is their slang for dollar -- Like BUCK).
>
>I have some old coins from relatives in Ireland and amongst them is a
>Farthing (1/2 pence?). Another mystery to what this evolved from
>(namewise).
>
--
John Fletcher