Basic Stamp Editor for other PIC''s?
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It depends on your price point.
If you can afford to sell the widget with
the overhead of the BS2 in it, then go for it.
Otherwise, my cutoff point would be between
10 and 100 items. You can do the math. I have
two lines. One starts at zero, and rises at
$50.00 per item. The other starts at $300,
and rises at $5.00 per item. (I am assuming
all other costs are fixed -- which hopefully
is good enough for a first approximation.)
At some number of items, the lines cross.
Beyond that point, you are making more money
if you don't use the Stamp.
Oh, and note the BS2 platform IS available in
an 'OEM' configuration, AND Parallax does have
volume discounts.
Note also the 'roll-your-own' does assume for
each item you'll need a PIC, a resonator,
a voltage regulator, and a MAX232. $5.00 may
be too low for this -- but it's in the ballpark.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "franksmith512"
<franksmith512@y...> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> As you already know, my project is a construction tool for building
> houses and other building projects. I hope to license it to one of
> the tool makers.
>
> At how many units would you shift from using a Stamp to a PIC?
100?
> 1000?
>
> Take care,
> Frank
>
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Mucha" <davemucha@j...>
> wrote:
> > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Allan Lane"
<allan.lane@h...>
> > wrote:
> > > Well, golly Chuck --
> > > First you say you couldn't figure out why he
> > > said going from BS2 to PIC was expensive, then
> > > you said you did it -- BUT you had problems
> > > with the math?
> > >
> > > That's kind of the point, isn't it? You CAN
> > > buy some 'third-party' products to ease porting
> > > from BS2 to PIC -- but the cost for these products
> > > is around $300.00 or so -- OR you can get 'freeware'
> > > which only does part of the job. And you'll STILL
> > > need some board to plug the PIC into to program
> > > it.
> >
> >
> > This is the thing most of us have found. it cost $250.00 for a
> > software package. PicBasic does some, but PicBasicPRO is needed
> for
> > the math and that it $250.00 and another $20.00 for a hardware
> > programmer.
> >
> > The migration is a normal evolution as one gets more projects and
> > spends $$$ per year on devices, but even those of us who get
> involved
> > with customer related projects use the Stamp to do the prototype
> and
> > more often than one might expect, deiver a project using the
Stamp,
> > even though we have the PIC's and the software.
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > <big snip>
If you can afford to sell the widget with
the overhead of the BS2 in it, then go for it.
Otherwise, my cutoff point would be between
10 and 100 items. You can do the math. I have
two lines. One starts at zero, and rises at
$50.00 per item. The other starts at $300,
and rises at $5.00 per item. (I am assuming
all other costs are fixed -- which hopefully
is good enough for a first approximation.)
At some number of items, the lines cross.
Beyond that point, you are making more money
if you don't use the Stamp.
Oh, and note the BS2 platform IS available in
an 'OEM' configuration, AND Parallax does have
volume discounts.
Note also the 'roll-your-own' does assume for
each item you'll need a PIC, a resonator,
a voltage regulator, and a MAX232. $5.00 may
be too low for this -- but it's in the ballpark.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "franksmith512"
<franksmith512@y...> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> As you already know, my project is a construction tool for building
> houses and other building projects. I hope to license it to one of
> the tool makers.
>
> At how many units would you shift from using a Stamp to a PIC?
100?
> 1000?
>
> Take care,
> Frank
>
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Mucha" <davemucha@j...>
> wrote:
> > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Allan Lane"
<allan.lane@h...>
> > wrote:
> > > Well, golly Chuck --
> > > First you say you couldn't figure out why he
> > > said going from BS2 to PIC was expensive, then
> > > you said you did it -- BUT you had problems
> > > with the math?
> > >
> > > That's kind of the point, isn't it? You CAN
> > > buy some 'third-party' products to ease porting
> > > from BS2 to PIC -- but the cost for these products
> > > is around $300.00 or so -- OR you can get 'freeware'
> > > which only does part of the job. And you'll STILL
> > > need some board to plug the PIC into to program
> > > it.
> >
> >
> > This is the thing most of us have found. it cost $250.00 for a
> > software package. PicBasic does some, but PicBasicPRO is needed
> for
> > the math and that it $250.00 and another $20.00 for a hardware
> > programmer.
> >
> > The migration is a normal evolution as one gets more projects and
> > spends $$$ per year on devices, but even those of us who get
> involved
> > with customer related projects use the Stamp to do the prototype
> and
> > more often than one might expect, deiver a project using the
Stamp,
> > even though we have the PIC's and the software.
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > <big snip>