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Static electricity

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2004-06-07 03:25 in General Discussion
Guys I desperately need some help. I am currently trying to pursue a
static electricity project for my company. The obstacles that I face
are:

1. How can I build an efficient monitoring system to gather the info
and send it to me?

2. What kind of program would be involved in measuring charge and
how do I translate this to the BS2?

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-06-04 23:35
    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "mpolite2" <mpolite2@y...> wrote:
    > Guys I desperately need some help. I am currently trying to pursue
    a
    > static electricity project for my company. The obstacles that I
    face
    > are:
    >
    > 1. How can I build an efficient monitoring system to gather the
    info
    > and send it to me?
    >
    > 2. What kind of program would be involved in measuring charge and
    > how do I translate this to the BS2?


    It seems on the surface that as soon as you try to measure the static
    electricty, you'll ground it and will dissapate it. I think more
    informaton on how it is generated would be appropriate.

    I think you can get some extreely high impeadance op-amps to not
    discharge it.

    The op-amp may be needed as well as some high value resistors to
    prevent destroying your circuits.

    Pretty much any ADC chip will allow you to look at the voltage
    generated from the output of the op-amp.

    Dave
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-06-04 23:56
    What about some sort of capacitance plate?
    Put a long metallic plate along your static area and wouldn't the
    capacitance change with strong static?

    So, put a resistor in series with your lines going to this and you can pick
    off a voltage that you could fire in to an opamp and amplify enough to stick
    in to an A/D.

    sound feasible?


    Original Message
    From: "Dave Mucha" <davemucha@j...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 6:35 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Static electricity


    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "mpolite2" <mpolite2@y...> wrote:
    > > Guys I desperately need some help. I am currently trying to pursue
    > a
    > > static electricity project for my company. The obstacles that I
    > face
    > > are:
    > >
    > > 1. How can I build an efficient monitoring system to gather the
    > info
    > > and send it to me?
    > >
    > > 2. What kind of program would be involved in measuring charge and
    > > how do I translate this to the BS2?
    >
    >
    > It seems on the surface that as soon as you try to measure the static
    > electricty, you'll ground it and will dissapate it. I think more
    > informaton on how it is generated would be appropriate.
    >
    > I think you can get some extreely high impeadance op-amps to not
    > discharge it.
    >
    > The op-amp may be needed as well as some high value resistors to
    > prevent destroying your circuits.
    >
    > Pretty much any ADC chip will allow you to look at the voltage
    > generated from the output of the op-amp.
    >
    > Dave
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-06-04 23:57
    http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_6/chpt_5/9.html

    http://www.amasci.com/electrom/e-field2.gif

    ==========================
    Guys I desperately need some help. I am currently trying to pursue a
    static electricity project for my company. The obstacles that I face
    are:

    1. How can I build an efficient monitoring system to gather the info
    and send it to me?

    2. What kind of program would be involved in measuring charge and
    how do I translate this to the BS2?


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-06-05 00:07
    If I'm not mistaken, the proper instrument for this is an electroscope. A
    google search turned up:

    http://www.amasci.com/emotor/chargdet.html

    http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Static_Electricity/Henleys_Electrom
    eter/Henleys_Electrometer.html (fun fun)

    Speaking of sparks and such, I recently ran into http://www.sparkmuseum.com/
    which I thought was facinating...

    Regards,

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Universal Stamp Prototyping Board:
    http://www.awce.com/asp3.htm




    Original Message
    From: mpolite2 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=-sXyvedTq1DZH6MyKTOPWp7_A24y_Olmv3YP4XBJgPs0hDyWB63DKdsgXbCz3XAacYHVpqbCkLSC]mpolite2@y...[/url
    Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 4:06 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Static electricity


    Guys I desperately need some help. I am currently trying to pursue a
    static electricity project for my company. The obstacles that I face
    are:

    1. How can I build an efficient monitoring system to gather the info
    and send it to me?

    2. What kind of program would be involved in measuring charge and
    how do I translate this to the BS2?




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-06-05 03:18
    This super-simple circuit by Bill Beaty is truly amazing.
    It would probably work at 5 volts and a stamp input with some lower
    sensitivity.

    I tried a bit to come up with a complementary circuit that would work
    as well as this one does when the new one is brought near a NEGATIVE
    charge, but haven't yet.


    At 6:07 PM -0500 6/4/04, Al Williams wrote:
    >If I'm not mistaken, the proper instrument for this is



    >an electroscope. A
    >google search turned up:
    >
    >http://www.amasci.com/emotor/chargdet.html

    --
    I never teach my pupils; I only attempt to provide the conditions in
    which they can learn.
    - Albert Einstein
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-06-07 03:25
    Al, thanks for mentioning my web site!

    It turns out I am also very much into Basic Stamps, and in fact have
    two major exhibits at our museum running on them. One is a 6-channel
    automatic AM radio station - Each channel is driven by an MP3 player
    with the files stored on CF. The stamp controls the MP3 players and
    the transmitter channels. We use it for "broadcasting" old time
    radio programs in the museum, so that visitors hear old radio
    programs and not Britney Spears or Dr. Laura when they tune the
    radios.

    The other is an automated exhibit (a life size diorama
    of "Franklin's Laboratory") that tells the story of the early days
    of electricity, and specifically Franklin's kite. The stamp operates
    two MP3 Players, 6 different spot lights to illuminate the apparatus
    as it is described in the audio narrative, and a couple of strobe
    lights that create "lightning" during the thunder and lightning
    storm. I almost forgot - the stamp also controls the sparks that
    jump from the famous key to a Leyden Jar beneath it, as well as a
    couple of compact Florescent tubes that are hidden inside the jar.
    It is quite a show!

    The site you saw (www.sparkmuseum.com) is my personal site, the URL
    below is for our museum.



    John Jenkins
    Chairman
    The American Museum of Radio and Electricity
    Where discovery sparks imagination
    www.americanradiomuseum.org


    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Al Williams" <alw@a...> wrote:
    > If I'm not mistaken, the proper instrument for this is an
    electroscope. A
    > google search turned up:
    >
    > http://www.amasci.com/emotor/chargdet.html
    >
    >
    http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Static_Electricity/Henleys_E
    lectrom
    > eter/Henleys_Electrometer.html (fun fun)
    >
    > Speaking of sparks and such, I recently ran into
    http://www.sparkmuseum.com/
    > which I thought was facinating...
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Al Williams
    > AWC
    > * Universal Stamp Prototyping Board:
    > http://www.awce.com/asp3.htm
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 4:06 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Static electricity
    >
    >
    > Guys I desperately need some help. I am currently trying to pursue
    a
    > static electricity project for my company. The obstacles that I
    face
    > are:
    >
    > 1. How can I build an efficient monitoring system to gather the
    info
    > and send it to me?
    >
    > 2. What kind of program would be involved in measuring charge and
    > how do I translate this to the BS2?
    >
    >
    >
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