ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
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Hi guys,
I just picked up my bs2p40 demo board and have been playing a little bit
with some temp sensors.
So, I know the stamp works well enough.
Now, I picked up a ds2450 1-wire quad A-D converter.
My mistake was getting the 8pin surface mount (SOIC?) rather than the DIP
package.
So anyhow, I solder tacked some wire wrap to each pin and then to a dip
socket and then put that in the demo board.
When I apply power to the ds2450 I can see the power LED dim. So I tossed
on a DMM and can see the power go from 5V down to 2.3! the longer I hold it
there the higher it gets...BUT, I can smell heat (you know the smell I mean)
coming from the board ( regulator? ).
The other items I have on my board that are powered are an LM35 (this is
what I want to use the ds2450 with) and a ds1620 digital therm.
seem only when I connect power to the A-D converter that the power
foldsback. Could my regulator be bad? I think so! Just wanna get some
advice.
My next question after this is sorted will be....how the heck do I use the
ds2450!! lol
I just picked up my bs2p40 demo board and have been playing a little bit
with some temp sensors.
So, I know the stamp works well enough.
Now, I picked up a ds2450 1-wire quad A-D converter.
My mistake was getting the 8pin surface mount (SOIC?) rather than the DIP
package.
So anyhow, I solder tacked some wire wrap to each pin and then to a dip
socket and then put that in the demo board.
When I apply power to the ds2450 I can see the power LED dim. So I tossed
on a DMM and can see the power go from 5V down to 2.3! the longer I hold it
there the higher it gets...BUT, I can smell heat (you know the smell I mean)
coming from the board ( regulator? ).
The other items I have on my board that are powered are an LM35 (this is
what I want to use the ds2450 with) and a ds1620 digital therm.
seem only when I connect power to the A-D converter that the power
foldsback. Could my regulator be bad? I think so! Just wanna get some
advice.
My next question after this is sorted will be....how the heck do I use the
ds2450!! lol
Comments
> on a DMM and can see the power go from 5V down to 2.3! the longer I hold
it
> there the higher it gets...BUT, I can smell heat (you know the smell I
mean)
> coming from the board ( regulator? ).
>
That is the blue smoke trying to get out. If you let it get out, the
device won't
work anymore!!<VBG>
Tom Fisher
BigD
If you disconnect the DS2450, are the other components working properly?
Does the power LED still go dim? If not, then more than likely you have
a short surrounding the DS2450 chip in your circuit. If you have any
more questions please feel free to e-mail us.
Dave Andreae
Tech Support
PH. 916-624-8333
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From: SB [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=suOfy44cLzpWTZNot2wDAt3mKqddBI2z_zkaeMe2zFjVOEcCdMXYxDdrZa9Zzj-R-p2SK-CsOSf-S5qdio0]steve.brady@r...[/url
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:18 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
Hi guys,
I just picked up my bs2p40 demo board and have been playing a little bit
with some temp sensors.
So, I know the stamp works well enough.
Now, I picked up a ds2450 1-wire quad A-D converter.
My mistake was getting the 8pin surface mount (SOIC?) rather than the
DIP
package.
So anyhow, I solder tacked some wire wrap to each pin and then to a dip
socket and then put that in the demo board.
When I apply power to the ds2450 I can see the power LED dim. So I
tossed
on a DMM and can see the power go from 5V down to 2.3! the longer I
hold it
there the higher it gets...BUT, I can smell heat (you know the smell I
mean)
coming from the board ( regulator? ).
The other items I have on my board that are powered are an LM35 (this is
what I want to use the ds2450 with) and a ds1620 digital therm.
seem only when I connect power to the A-D converter that the power
foldsback. Could my regulator be bad? I think so! Just wanna get some
advice.
My next question after this is sorted will be....how the heck do I use
the
ds2450!! lol
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as soon as I disconnect the ds2450, the voltage (and LED) all go back to a
normal state.
I'm unsure about the DS2450....popped something on the inside maybe....which
is loading down the regulator.
Original Message
From: "Dave Andreae" <dandreae@p...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
> Hello,
>
> If you disconnect the DS2450, are the other components working properly?
> Does the power LED still go dim? If not, then more than likely you have
> a short surrounding the DS2450 chip in your circuit. If you have any
> more questions please feel free to e-mail us.
>
> Dave Andreae
> Tech Support
> PH. 916-624-8333
> Stamp Support/ stamptech@p...
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> From: SB [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=Ue6MnK3LvBy9f4YKgEKkUdhFkLWz3Grq6joWHw77zByvche2cNFAEPPMmp9q83FEoPY9aHhMCXLOPoBgCpQRCg]steve.brady@r...[/url
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:18 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I just picked up my bs2p40 demo board and have been playing a little bit
> with some temp sensors.
> So, I know the stamp works well enough.
> Now, I picked up a ds2450 1-wire quad A-D converter.
>
> My mistake was getting the 8pin surface mount (SOIC?) rather than the
> DIP
> package.
> So anyhow, I solder tacked some wire wrap to each pin and then to a dip
> socket and then put that in the demo board.
>
> When I apply power to the ds2450 I can see the power LED dim. So I
> tossed
> on a DMM and can see the power go from 5V down to 2.3! the longer I
> hold it
> there the higher it gets...BUT, I can smell heat (you know the smell I
> mean)
> coming from the board ( regulator? ).
>
> The other items I have on my board that are powered are an LM35 (this is
> what I want to use the ds2450 with) and a ds1620 digital therm.
> seem only when I connect power to the A-D converter that the power
> foldsback. Could my regulator be bad? I think so! Just wanna get some
> advice.
>
>
> My next question after this is sorted will be....how the heck do I use
> the
> ds2450!! lol
>
>
>
>
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It sounds like the chip is damaged, that could have been caused by a
short in the soldering or a mis-connected circuit or you received a bad
chip. We have the Philips PCF8591 4-channel A2D plus 1-channel D2A,
it's not a Dallas one-wire product, and it's a Philips IC2 product. If
you like I can send you the information regarding the wiring diagram and
sample code?
Dave
Dave Andreae
Tech Support
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From: SB [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=78yHfpMtCDuRO3-P0fYyHMX_D3QDVdjpdL6kczGvpDSlxlOCDRpp25NCVrkYxAEvj8wd7gSEWamnG6nJCIPoGA]steve.brady@r...[/url
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:46 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
Hi Dave,
as soon as I disconnect the ds2450, the voltage (and LED) all go back to
a
normal state.
I'm unsure about the DS2450....popped something on the inside
maybe....which
is loading down the regulator.
Original Message
From: "Dave Andreae" <dandreae@p...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
> Hello,
>
> If you disconnect the DS2450, are the other components working
properly?
> Does the power LED still go dim? If not, then more than likely you
have
> a short surrounding the DS2450 chip in your circuit. If you have any
> more questions please feel free to e-mail us.
>
> Dave Andreae
> Tech Support
> PH. 916-624-8333
> Stamp Support/ stamptech@p...
> Javelin Support/ javelinsupport@p...
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> websites
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>
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Original Message
> From: SB [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=78yHfpMtCDuRO3-P0fYyHMX_D3QDVdjpdL6kczGvpDSlxlOCDRpp25NCVrkYxAEvj8wd7gSEWamnG6nJCIPoGA]steve.brady@r...[/url
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:18 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I just picked up my bs2p40 demo board and have been playing a little
bit
> with some temp sensors.
> So, I know the stamp works well enough.
> Now, I picked up a ds2450 1-wire quad A-D converter.
>
> My mistake was getting the 8pin surface mount (SOIC?) rather than the
> DIP
> package.
> So anyhow, I solder tacked some wire wrap to each pin and then to a
dip
> socket and then put that in the demo board.
>
> When I apply power to the ds2450 I can see the power LED dim. So I
> tossed
> on a DMM and can see the power go from 5V down to 2.3! the longer I
> hold it
> there the higher it gets...BUT, I can smell heat (you know the smell I
> mean)
> coming from the board ( regulator? ).
>
> The other items I have on my board that are powered are an LM35 (this
is
> what I want to use the ds2450 with) and a ds1620 digital therm.
> seem only when I connect power to the A-D converter that the power
> foldsback. Could my regulator be bad? I think so! Just wanna get
some
> advice.
>
>
> My next question after this is sorted will be....how the heck do I use
> the
> ds2450!! lol
>
>
>
>
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answer back with a PRESENCE code!! lol couldn't find out what this was.
And what I got back was FF....which doesn't tell me anything more than that
the pull-up resistor is connected to 5volts!
I might have put too much heat to the chip while soldering too! those dam
little wire wrap wires break easy and I had to do it a couple times....I did
this a couple minutes before leaving for the day...I'll do some continuity
checks tomorrow....but I wasn't sure if the bs2p40 is so power hungry that
you couldn't power a bunch of other devices off of it's on board regulator.
But still this A-D doesn't use much for power if it's not converting!
Original Message
From: "Dave Andreae" <dandreae@p...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:18 PM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
> Hi Steve,
>
> It sounds like the chip is damaged, that could have been caused by a
> short in the soldering or a mis-connected circuit or you received a bad
> chip. We have the Philips PCF8591 4-channel A2D plus 1-channel D2A,
> it's not a Dallas one-wire product, and it's a Philips IC2 product. If
> you like I can send you the information regarding the wiring diagram and
> sample code?
>
> Dave
>
> Dave Andreae
> Tech Support
> PH. 916-624-8333
> Stamp Support/ stamptech@p...
> Javelin Support/ javelinsupport@p...
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> websites
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> stampsinclass.com
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:46 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> as soon as I disconnect the ds2450, the voltage (and LED) all go back to
> a
> normal state.
> I'm unsure about the DS2450....popped something on the inside
> maybe....which
> is loading down the regulator.
>
>
>
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> From: "Dave Andreae" <dandreae@p...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > If you disconnect the DS2450, are the other components working
> properly?
> > Does the power LED still go dim? If not, then more than likely you
> have
> > a short surrounding the DS2450 chip in your circuit. If you have any
> > more questions please feel free to e-mail us.
> >
> > Dave Andreae
> > Tech Support
> > PH. 916-624-8333
> > Stamp Support/ stamptech@p...
> > Javelin Support/ javelinsupport@p...
> > SX-Support/ sxtech@p...
> > websites
> > parallax.com
> > stampsinclass.com
> >
> >
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> > From: SB [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=KWniidnxGqBPgxlnrzpSuxqv7W0sFKTA2dSF9NYkx4N5rHuBSL7iEhzTZAxqb8rY5SfBNltK8UscdWWzcebK51s]steve.brady@r...[/url
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:18 PM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I just picked up my bs2p40 demo board and have been playing a little
> bit
> > with some temp sensors.
> > So, I know the stamp works well enough.
> > Now, I picked up a ds2450 1-wire quad A-D converter.
> >
> > My mistake was getting the 8pin surface mount (SOIC?) rather than the
> > DIP
> > package.
> > So anyhow, I solder tacked some wire wrap to each pin and then to a
> dip
> > socket and then put that in the demo board.
> >
> > When I apply power to the ds2450 I can see the power LED dim. So I
> > tossed
> > on a DMM and can see the power go from 5V down to 2.3! the longer I
> > hold it
> > there the higher it gets...BUT, I can smell heat (you know the smell I
> > mean)
> > coming from the board ( regulator? ).
> >
> > The other items I have on my board that are powered are an LM35 (this
> is
> > what I want to use the ds2450 with) and a ds1620 digital therm.
> > seem only when I connect power to the A-D converter that the power
> > foldsback. Could my regulator be bad? I think so! Just wanna get
> some
> > advice.
> >
> >
> > My next question after this is sorted will be....how the heck do I use
> > the
> > ds2450!! lol
> >
> >
> >
> >
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working electrically, you'll find demo code for the DS2450 in our Plus
Pack documentation.
-- Jon Williams
-- Applications Engineer, Parallax
-- Dallas Office
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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 5:18 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
Hi guys,
I just picked up my bs2p40 demo board and have been playing a little bit
with some temp sensors. So, I know the stamp works well enough. Now, I
picked up a ds2450 1-wire quad A-D converter.
My mistake was getting the 8pin surface mount (SOIC?) rather than the
DIP package. So anyhow, I solder tacked some wire wrap to each pin and
then to a dip socket and then put that in the demo board.
When I apply power to the ds2450 I can see the power LED dim. So I
tossed on a DMM and can see the power go from 5V down to 2.3! the
longer I hold it there the higher it gets...BUT, I can smell heat (you
know the smell I mean) coming from the board ( regulator? ).
The other items I have on my board that are powered are an LM35 (this is
what I want to use the ds2450 with) and a ds1620 digital therm. seem
only when I connect power to the A-D converter that the power foldsback.
Could my regulator be bad? I think so! Just wanna get some advice.
My next question after this is sorted will be....how the heck do I use
the ds2450!! lol
-- Jon Williams
-- Applications Engineer, Parallax
-- Dallas Office
Original Message
From: Jon Williams
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:39 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
Perhaps you connected the DS2450 incorrectly?.... Once you get things
working electrically, you'll find demo code for the DS2450 in our Plus
Pack documentation.
-- Jon Williams
-- Applications Engineer, Parallax
-- Dallas Office
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To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
Hi guys,
I just picked up my bs2p40 demo board and have been playing a little bit
with some temp sensors. So, I know the stamp works well enough. Now, I
picked up a ds2450 1-wire quad A-D converter.
My mistake was getting the 8pin surface mount (SOIC?) rather than the
DIP package. So anyhow, I solder tacked some wire wrap to each pin and
then to a dip socket and then put that in the demo board.
When I apply power to the ds2450 I can see the power LED dim. So I
tossed on a DMM and can see the power go from 5V down to 2.3! the
longer I hold it there the higher it gets...BUT, I can smell heat (you
know the smell I mean) coming from the board ( regulator? ).
The other items I have on my board that are powered are an LM35 (this is
what I want to use the ds2450 with) and a ds1620 digital therm. seem
only when I connect power to the A-D converter that the power foldsback.
Could my regulator be bad? I think so! Just wanna get some advice.
My next question after this is sorted will be....how the heck do I use
the ds2450!! lol
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I just checked the datasheet and yes...vcc is pin1 and gnd is pin4. data
spits out of pin3.
I'm thinking I applied too much heat and popped one of the interconnect
wires on the inside....
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From: "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
> Whoops ... my mistake, we have code for the DS2405 (switch).
>
> -- Jon Williams
> -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
> -- Dallas Office
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: Jon Williams
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:39 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
>
>
> Perhaps you connected the DS2450 incorrectly?.... Once you get things
> working electrically, you'll find demo code for the DS2450 in our Plus
> Pack documentation.
>
> -- Jon Williams
> -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
> -- Dallas Office
>
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 5:18 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] ds2450 power pull down on bs2p40 board
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I just picked up my bs2p40 demo board and have been playing a little bit
> with some temp sensors. So, I know the stamp works well enough. Now, I
> picked up a ds2450 1-wire quad A-D converter.
>
> My mistake was getting the 8pin surface mount (SOIC?) rather than the
> DIP package. So anyhow, I solder tacked some wire wrap to each pin and
> then to a dip socket and then put that in the demo board.
>
> When I apply power to the ds2450 I can see the power LED dim. So I
> tossed on a DMM and can see the power go from 5V down to 2.3! the
> longer I hold it there the higher it gets...BUT, I can smell heat (you
> know the smell I mean) coming from the board ( regulator? ).
>
> The other items I have on my board that are powered are an LM35 (this is
> what I want to use the ds2450 with) and a ds1620 digital therm. seem
> only when I connect power to the A-D converter that the power foldsback.
> Could my regulator be bad? I think so! Just wanna get some advice.
>
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> My next question after this is sorted will be....how the heck do I use
> the ds2450!! lol
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