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Basic Stamp Computer Connection

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2004-04-26 03:31 in General Discussion
Hi all,
I'm a newbie so please be nice!
I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to be able to connect the
basic stamp 2sx up to the computer without a programming board of
any type. I read somewhere that you can just hook up 4 wires from
the TX, RX, DTR, and GND connections from the stamp to the pins 2,
3, 4, and 5 on the DB9 Serial port on the computer. I tried that and
no luck. I am using the Windows editor V2.1 Beta 1. The editor can
loopback and echo when i press identify, but for some reason, it
can't find the device type correctly. I also found somewhere that
you could connect the pins 2 and 3 directly to the TX and RX pins
and then connect Pin 4 and 5 with a 0.1uf 100V capacitor to the DTR
and GND pins. But that hasn't worked out for me either.

Can anyone help?
I would really appreciate it.
Thx in advance,
Jason Chechik

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-25 18:48
    I think it is:
    Chip
    DB-9
    Pin1 is Serial Out (to PC-RX)
    Pin2 is Serial In (to PC-TX)
    Pin3 is ATN (to PC-DTR)
    Pin4 is VSS (GND) (to DB-9 Pin 5).

    Pin 24 is VIN, to +9V
    Pin 23 is VSS, to GND

    and DB-9 Pin 6 and 7 connected together.

    You also have to install a small loop-back
    wire between pin 6 and 7 of the DB-9 connector.

    AND, you need like a 9-volt battery, connected
    with the + terminal on 'VIN', and the - terminal
    on VSS.

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "genmicrojmc"
    <one_ied_freakazoid@h...> wrote:
    > Hi all,
    > I'm a newbie so please be nice!
    > I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to be able to connect the
    > basic stamp 2sx up to the computer without a programming board of
    > any type. I read somewhere that you can just hook up 4 wires from
    > the TX, RX, DTR, and GND connections from the stamp to the pins 2,
    > 3, 4, and 5 on the DB9 Serial port on the computer. I tried that
    and
    > no luck. I am using the Windows editor V2.1 Beta 1. The editor can
    > loopback and echo when i press identify, but for some reason, it
    > can't find the device type correctly. I also found somewhere that
    > you could connect the pins 2 and 3 directly to the TX and RX pins
    > and then connect Pin 4 and 5 with a 0.1uf 100V capacitor to the DTR
    > and GND pins. But that hasn't worked out for me either.
    >
    > Can anyone help?
    > I would really appreciate it.
    > Thx in advance,
    > Jason Chechik
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-25 19:30
    If you're a newbie then you want to be VERY CAREFUL. If you know what
    you're doing with electronics (building circuits) then there are
    schematics available on our web site that will give you what you need.
    If you're new to electronics you will save yourself a lot of aggrivation
    (and a possible dead BASIC Stamp) by purchasing a pre-built programming
    board. If budget is an issue, check our e-Bay auctions.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    -- Dallas Office


    Original Message
    From: genmicrojmc [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=gpv6tXH8KnK3x9KfzJL2P22hu4Lyw3ISFg-jSoe4WcDmVHRrHLfOyG9T9IsocNjkWt0qhGwS3iyeq6DEZ-uKQo2ROyI1Gw]one_ied_freakazoid@h...[/url
    Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 10:33 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Basic Stamp Computer Connection


    Hi all,
    I'm a newbie so please be nice!
    I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to be able to connect the
    basic stamp 2sx up to the computer without a programming board of
    any type. I read somewhere that you can just hook up 4 wires from
    the TX, RX, DTR, and GND connections from the stamp to the pins 2,
    3, 4, and 5 on the DB9 Serial port on the computer. I tried that and
    no luck. I am using the Windows editor V2.1 Beta 1. The editor can
    loopback and echo when i press identify, but for some reason, it
    can't find the device type correctly. I also found somewhere that
    you could connect the pins 2 and 3 directly to the TX and RX pins
    and then connect Pin 4 and 5 with a 0.1uf 100V capacitor to the DTR
    and GND pins. But that hasn't worked out for me either.

    Can anyone help?
    I would really appreciate it.
    Thx in advance,
    Jason Chechik
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-25 23:57
    Hey Jon,
    I am a newbie to Basic Stamps, but not with building electronic
    circuits. Anyways, can you tell me exactly where to find the
    schematics for the programming board, because i was looking on your
    website and i couldn't really find it.
    Thx very much,
    Jason Chechik



    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > If you're a newbie then you want to be VERY CAREFUL. If you know
    what
    > you're doing with electronics (building circuits) then there are
    > schematics available on our web site that will give you what you
    need.
    > If you're new to electronics you will save yourself a lot of
    aggrivation
    > (and a possible dead BASIC Stamp) by purchasing a pre-built
    programming
    > board. If budget is an issue, check our e-Bay auctions.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: genmicrojmc [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:o[/noparse]ne_ied_freakazoid@h...]
    > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 10:33 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Basic Stamp Computer Connection
    >
    >
    > Hi all,
    > I'm a newbie so please be nice!
    > I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to be able to connect
    the
    > basic stamp 2sx up to the computer without a programming board of
    > any type. I read somewhere that you can just hook up 4 wires from
    > the TX, RX, DTR, and GND connections from the stamp to the pins 2,
    > 3, 4, and 5 on the DB9 Serial port on the computer. I tried that
    and
    > no luck. I am using the Windows editor V2.1 Beta 1. The editor can
    > loopback and echo when i press identify, but for some reason, it
    > can't find the device type correctly. I also found somewhere that
    > you could connect the pins 2 and 3 directly to the TX and RX pins
    > and then connect Pin 4 and 5 with a 0.1uf 100V capacitor to the
    DTR
    > and GND pins. But that hasn't worked out for me either.
    >
    > Can anyone help?
    > I would really appreciate it.
    > Thx in advance,
    > Jason Chechik
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-26 00:37
    You'll find those things on the Download page -- here's one that will
    show the connections between the DB-9 and the BASIC Stamp.

    http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/stamps/BS2pDemoCschem.pdf

    The schematic is for the BS2p Demo Board, but the programming
    connections are the same for all BS2-family modules.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    -- Dallas Office


    Original Message
    From: genmicrojmc [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=fB0PvJdHtEHRz47qco0BgqdIYKcb8yj3Ans1KLZ4fvSo_Hp7U7njtl5LRFLfJF9scR9YXc4LtmdKai_5pqW5MfpNE44]one_ied_freakazoid@h...[/url
    Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:57 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Basic Stamp Computer Connection


    Hey Jon,
    I am a newbie to Basic Stamps, but not with building electronic
    circuits. Anyways, can you tell me exactly where to find the
    schematics for the programming board, because i was looking on your
    website and i couldn't really find it.
    Thx very much,
    Jason Chechik



    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > If you're a newbie then you want to be VERY CAREFUL. If you know
    what
    > you're doing with electronics (building circuits) then there are
    > schematics available on our web site that will give you what you
    need.
    > If you're new to electronics you will save yourself a lot of
    aggrivation
    > (and a possible dead BASIC Stamp) by purchasing a pre-built
    programming
    > board. If budget is an issue, check our e-Bay auctions.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: genmicrojmc [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:o[/noparse]ne_ied_freakazoid@h...]
    > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 10:33 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Basic Stamp Computer Connection
    >
    >
    > Hi all,
    > I'm a newbie so please be nice!
    > I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to be able to connect
    the
    > basic stamp 2sx up to the computer without a programming board of
    > any type. I read somewhere that you can just hook up 4 wires from
    > the TX, RX, DTR, and GND connections from the stamp to the pins 2,
    > 3, 4, and 5 on the DB9 Serial port on the computer. I tried that
    and
    > no luck. I am using the Windows editor V2.1 Beta 1. The editor can
    > loopback and echo when i press identify, but for some reason, it
    > can't find the device type correctly. I also found somewhere that
    > you could connect the pins 2 and 3 directly to the TX and RX pins
    > and then connect Pin 4 and 5 with a 0.1uf 100V capacitor to the
    DTR
    > and GND pins. But that hasn't worked out for me either.
    >
    > Can anyone help?
    > I would really appreciate it.
    > Thx in advance,
    > Jason Chechik
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-26 03:13
    I've finished designing the circuit board that I was told to make
    (http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/stamps/BS2pDemoCschem.pdf) and
    still no luck. for some reason when i press identify in the windows
    editor, it sais that on com1 the device type is blank, the loopback
    is yes and the echo is yes. It just wont find the stamp chip. can
    anyone help?
    Thx
    Jason Chechik

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > You'll find those things on the Download page -- here's one that
    will
    > show the connections between the DB-9 and the BASIC Stamp.
    >
    > http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/stamps/BS2pDemoCschem.pdf
    >
    > The schematic is for the BS2p Demo Board, but the programming
    > connections are the same for all BS2-family modules.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: genmicrojmc [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:o[/noparse]ne_ied_freakazoid@h...]
    > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:57 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Basic Stamp Computer Connection
    >
    >
    > Hey Jon,
    > I am a newbie to Basic Stamps, but not with building electronic
    > circuits. Anyways, can you tell me exactly where to find the
    > schematics for the programming board, because i was looking on
    your
    > website and i couldn't really find it.
    > Thx very much,
    > Jason Chechik
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams"
    <jwilliams@p...>
    > wrote:
    > > If you're a newbie then you want to be VERY CAREFUL. If you know
    > what
    > > you're doing with electronics (building circuits) then there are
    > > schematics available on our web site that will give you what you
    > need.
    > > If you're new to electronics you will save yourself a lot of
    > aggrivation
    > > (and a possible dead BASIC Stamp) by purchasing a pre-built
    > programming
    > > board. If budget is an issue, check our e-Bay auctions.
    > >
    > > -- Jon Williams
    > > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > > -- Dallas Office
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: genmicrojmc [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:o[/noparse]ne_ied_freakazoid@h...]
    > > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 10:33 AM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Basic Stamp Computer Connection
    > >
    > >
    > > Hi all,
    > > I'm a newbie so please be nice!
    > > I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to be able to connect
    > the
    > > basic stamp 2sx up to the computer without a programming board of
    > > any type. I read somewhere that you can just hook up 4 wires
    from
    > > the TX, RX, DTR, and GND connections from the stamp to the pins
    2,
    > > 3, 4, and 5 on the DB9 Serial port on the computer. I tried that
    > and
    > > no luck. I am using the Windows editor V2.1 Beta 1. The editor
    can
    > > loopback and echo when i press identify, but for some reason, it
    > > can't find the device type correctly. I also found somewhere
    that
    > > you could connect the pins 2 and 3 directly to the TX and RX
    pins
    > > and then connect Pin 4 and 5 with a 0.1uf 100V capacitor to the
    > DTR
    > > and GND pins. But that hasn't worked out for me either.
    > >
    > > Can anyone help?
    > > I would really appreciate it.
    > > Thx in advance,
    > > Jason Chechik
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-26 03:28
    Silly question. Do you have power to the board?

    Regards,

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Universal Prototype Board works with Stamps
    http://www.awce.com/asp3.htm




    Original Message
    From: genmicrojmc [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=GjrEMT07FyeLyziT7RlGgYPnw61XxEboymFcPFq-KkVIrt69ccG1bb2QiBP8sYMAp86S9GScrc2w4K4FR2TpQJzZFx8IUW5FbQ]one_ied_freakazoid@h...[/url
    Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 9:13 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Basic Stamp Computer Connection


    I've finished designing the circuit board that I was told to make
    (http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/stamps/BS2pDemoCschem.pdf) and
    still no luck. for some reason when i press identify in the windows
    editor, it sais that on com1 the device type is blank, the loopback
    is yes and the echo is yes. It just wont find the stamp chip. can
    anyone help?
    Thx
    Jason Chechik

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > You'll find those things on the Download page -- here's one that
    will
    > show the connections between the DB-9 and the BASIC Stamp.
    >
    > http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/stamps/BS2pDemoCschem.pdf
    >
    > The schematic is for the BS2p Demo Board, but the programming
    > connections are the same for all BS2-family modules.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: genmicrojmc [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:o[/noparse]ne_ied_freakazoid@h...]
    > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:57 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Basic Stamp Computer Connection
    >
    >
    > Hey Jon,
    > I am a newbie to Basic Stamps, but not with building electronic
    > circuits. Anyways, can you tell me exactly where to find the
    > schematics for the programming board, because i was looking on
    your
    > website and i couldn't really find it.
    > Thx very much,
    > Jason Chechik
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams"
    <jwilliams@p...>
    > wrote:
    > > If you're a newbie then you want to be VERY CAREFUL. If you know
    > what
    > > you're doing with electronics (building circuits) then there are
    > > schematics available on our web site that will give you what you
    > need.
    > > If you're new to electronics you will save yourself a lot of
    > aggrivation
    > > (and a possible dead BASIC Stamp) by purchasing a pre-built
    > programming
    > > board. If budget is an issue, check our e-Bay auctions.
    > >
    > > -- Jon Williams
    > > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > > -- Dallas Office
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: genmicrojmc [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:o[/noparse]ne_ied_freakazoid@h...]
    > > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 10:33 AM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Basic Stamp Computer Connection
    > >
    > >
    > > Hi all,
    > > I'm a newbie so please be nice!
    > > I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to be able to connect
    > the
    > > basic stamp 2sx up to the computer without a programming board of
    > > any type. I read somewhere that you can just hook up 4 wires
    from
    > > the TX, RX, DTR, and GND connections from the stamp to the pins
    2,
    > > 3, 4, and 5 on the DB9 Serial port on the computer. I tried that
    > and
    > > no luck. I am using the Windows editor V2.1 Beta 1. The editor
    can
    > > loopback and echo when i press identify, but for some reason, it
    > > can't find the device type correctly. I also found somewhere
    that
    > > you could connect the pins 2 and 3 directly to the TX and RX
    pins
    > > and then connect Pin 4 and 5 with a 0.1uf 100V capacitor to the
    > DTR
    > > and GND pins. But that hasn't worked out for me either.
    > >
    > > Can anyone help?
    > > I would really appreciate it.
    > > Thx in advance,
    > > Jason Chechik



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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-26 03:31
    Hey Al
    Yes I do have a nine volt battery connected to pins 23 and 24 on the
    stamp to power it.
    Jason Chechik


    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Al Williams" <alw@a...> wrote:
    > Silly question. Do you have power to the board?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Al Williams
    > AWC
    > * Universal Prototype Board works with Stamps
    > http://www.awce.com/asp3.htm
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: genmicrojmc [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:o[/noparse]ne_ied_freakazoid@h...]
    > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 9:13 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Basic Stamp Computer Connection
    >
    >
    > I've finished designing the circuit board that I was told to make
    > (http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/stamps/BS2pDemoCschem.pdf)
    and
    > still no luck. for some reason when i press identify in the
    windows
    > editor, it sais that on com1 the device type is blank, the
    loopback
    > is yes and the echo is yes. It just wont find the stamp chip. can
    > anyone help?
    > Thx
    > Jason Chechik
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams"
    <jwilliams@p...>
    > wrote:
    > > You'll find those things on the Download page -- here's one that
    > will
    > > show the connections between the DB-9 and the BASIC Stamp.
    > >
    > > http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/stamps/BS2pDemoCschem.pdf
    > >
    > > The schematic is for the BS2p Demo Board, but the programming
    > > connections are the same for all BS2-family modules.
    > >
    > > -- Jon Williams
    > > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > > -- Dallas Office
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: genmicrojmc [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:o[/noparse]ne_ied_freakazoid@h...]
    > > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 5:57 PM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Basic Stamp Computer Connection
    > >
    > >
    > > Hey Jon,
    > > I am a newbie to Basic Stamps, but not with building electronic
    > > circuits. Anyways, can you tell me exactly where to find the
    > > schematics for the programming board, because i was looking on
    > your
    > > website and i couldn't really find it.
    > > Thx very much,
    > > Jason Chechik
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams"
    > <jwilliams@p...>
    > > wrote:
    > > > If you're a newbie then you want to be VERY CAREFUL. If you
    know
    > > what
    > > > you're doing with electronics (building circuits) then there
    are
    > > > schematics available on our web site that will give you what
    you
    > > need.
    > > > If you're new to electronics you will save yourself a lot of
    > > aggrivation
    > > > (and a possible dead BASIC Stamp) by purchasing a pre-built
    > > programming
    > > > board. If budget is an issue, check our e-Bay auctions.
    > > >
    > > > -- Jon Williams
    > > > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > > > -- Dallas Office
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > > From: genmicrojmc [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:o[/noparse]ne_ied_freakazoid@h...]
    > > > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 10:33 AM
    > > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Basic Stamp Computer Connection
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Hi all,
    > > > I'm a newbie so please be nice!
    > > > I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to be able to connect
    > > the
    > > > basic stamp 2sx up to the computer without a programming board
    of
    > > > any type. I read somewhere that you can just hook up 4 wires
    > from
    > > > the TX, RX, DTR, and GND connections from the stamp to the pins
    > 2,
    > > > 3, 4, and 5 on the DB9 Serial port on the computer. I tried
    that
    > > and
    > > > no luck. I am using the Windows editor V2.1 Beta 1. The editor
    > can
    > > > loopback and echo when i press identify, but for some reason,
    it
    > > > can't find the device type correctly. I also found somewhere
    > that
    > > > you could connect the pins 2 and 3 directly to the TX and RX
    > pins
    > > > and then connect Pin 4 and 5 with a 0.1uf 100V capacitor to the
    > > DTR
    > > > and GND pins. But that hasn't worked out for me either.
    > > >
    > > > Can anyone help?
    > > > I would really appreciate it.
    > > > Thx in advance,
    > > > Jason Chechik
    >
    >
    >
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