modem to phone pickup
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Hi
I have a stamp hooked up to a modem, successfully making and receiving
calls. What I would like to know is if anyone has an idea how to get
the stamp / modem to detect when the remote phone has answered a call.
This is not modem to modem communication, it is modem to telephone.
Any help much appreciated.
James
I have a stamp hooked up to a modem, successfully making and receiving
calls. What I would like to know is if anyone has an idea how to get
the stamp / modem to detect when the remote phone has answered a call.
This is not modem to modem communication, it is modem to telephone.
Any help much appreciated.
James
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polarity when the distant part swered. Normally, "Tip" is positive and
"Ring" is negative and when the call is answered, "Tip" becomes negative and
"Ring" becomes positive. I haven't done this type of work for over twenty
years so this info might be bogus now - you can check it with a meter. Good
luck....
Bob
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From: jes_coupe [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ow-MF2WuVTp9FHTfEReO1bcsqHO9X-MHuMPXyx57-loF-FdYzQI3LQOP_GpaozhUNQQMNFrHyJ9uKPx7]jes_coupe@y...[/url
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 11:11 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] modem to phone pickup
Hi
I have a stamp hooked up to a modem, successfully making and receiving
calls. What I would like to know is if anyone has an idea how to get
the stamp / modem to detect when the remote phone has answered a call.
This is not modem to modem communication, it is modem to telephone.
Any help much appreciated.
James
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modem dials, but nothing changes on the meter when the call gets
answered. So I guess there must be another solution?
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "okay_2" <okay_2@c...> wrote:
> I used to do telephone work a long time ago and the telephone line
switched
> polarity when the distant part swered. Normally, "Tip" is positive and
> "Ring" is negative and when the call is answered, "Tip" becomes
negative and
> "Ring" becomes positive. I haven't done this type of work for over
twenty
> years so this info might be bogus now - you can check it with a
meter. Good
> luck....
> Bob
>
>
>
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> From: jes_coupe [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:jes_coupe@y...]
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 11:11 AM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] modem to phone pickup
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have a stamp hooked up to a modem, successfully making and receiving
> calls. What I would like to know is if anyone has an idea how to get
> the stamp / modem to detect when the remote phone has answered a call.
>
> This is not modem to modem communication, it is modem to telephone.
>
> Any help much appreciated.
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
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years or so... but I don't think the basics have changed....
I think what you are looking for is "answer supervision". In the context of
telephony (in North America), the answering of the call is detected by the
terminating end office, it is then passed through the network down to the
originating office. In the case of a standard line to line call, the
answering at the terminating end is detected by the absence or existence of
current on the loop, this depends if the line is ground or loop start. This
answer is propagated back to the originating office by various means
depending on the equipment between. This is what tells the originating
office to stop audible ringback to the originating phone and connect a two
way network path between the two parties.
Regardless, the answer supervision is typically not passed back to the
originating line since in most cases it is not needed. It is typically only
passed back if you have a "PBX" business line.
Most automatic dialing telephone systems, used by telemarketers, use tone
detection to determine when the line has been answered. The sequence is
usually...
- look for dial tone
- break dial tone
- dial the number
- look for ringback tone (ringing 20 IPM) as opposed to busy tone (60 IPM)
or re-order tone (120 IPM)
- look for loss of ringback tone (maybe answered)
- look for voice on the line (maybe answered, someone talking, but could be
an announcement)
If you do a search on google for "automatic dialer" you will find all kinds
of information. I think that I remember playing with some modems that
would actually give you indication that the call has been answered or you
were getting busy tone etc...
I hope this helps a little.
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From: "jes_coupe" <jes_coupe@y...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:22 PM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: modem to phone pickup
> Thanks for the suggestion: in my test, the line goes high when the
> modem dials, but nothing changes on the meter when the call gets
> answered. So I guess there must be another solution?
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "okay_2" <okay_2@c...> wrote:
> > I used to do telephone work a long time ago and the telephone line
> switched
> > polarity when the distant part swered. Normally, "Tip" is positive and
> > "Ring" is negative and when the call is answered, "Tip" becomes
> negative and
> > "Ring" becomes positive. I haven't done this type of work for over
> twenty
> > years so this info might be bogus now - you can check it with a
> meter. Good
> > luck....
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
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> > From: jes_coupe [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:jes_coupe@y...]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 11:11 AM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] modem to phone pickup
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a stamp hooked up to a modem, successfully making and receiving
> > calls. What I would like to know is if anyone has an idea how to get
> > the stamp / modem to detect when the remote phone has answered a call.
> >
> > This is not modem to modem communication, it is modem to telephone.
> >
> > Any help much appreciated.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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>
>
>
>
> Most automatic dialing telephone systems, used by telemarketers, use tone
> detection to determine when the line has been answered. The sequence is
> usually...
Actually most automatic dialing systems use T1's for dialtones, which have
more sophisticated mechanisms for doing signalling. In the case of ISDN
PRI, which is quite common, it's literally a digital control message that
tells the failure condition, much like any other data protocol.
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