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palm to basic stamp tokenizer?

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2004-04-20 18:06 in General Discussion
Can you write in Pbasic on a palm handheld and write the program by
the serial port to a BASIC stamp?

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-19 18:05
    No. You could edit source files, but there is no compiler/downloader
    available for the Palm OS.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    -- Dallas Office


    Original Message
    From: tundra242 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=igVUGH8J3UbsPsqulRLLo5ujPkgQ4tknX5RgzDFFvc3GwMvC4WsTT9_ujAnKq4Ds2xBt1bC4njTD]tundra242@y...[/url
    Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:00 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] palm to basic stamp tokenizer?


    Can you write in Pbasic on a palm handheld and write the program by
    the serial port to a BASIC stamp?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-19 23:36
    i want it too, when are you guys making one, [noparse]:)[/noparse] one of the greatest
    tools in my learning proces is bieng able to take it any where via
    piece of paper a palm and a small bag of tools, this would rock,
    personally i use palm vx, so i guess the conection on the bottom
    would need to be hijacked for serial use, id like to see you guys
    make a palm aplication



    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > No. You could edit source files, but there is no
    compiler/downloader
    > available for the Palm OS.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: tundra242 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:tundra242@y...]
    > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:00 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    >
    >
    > Can you write in Pbasic on a palm handheld and write the program
    by
    > the serial port to a BASIC stamp?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-20 00:40
    We have no current plans to make an editor for the Palm OS. That's not
    to say that we won't at some point in the future, but there is no
    guarantee.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    -- Dallas Office


    Original Message
    From: jutsuju [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=_9Znsq0jTfcfaw2ZpV9R3cm3w9nwJJCO4qKyDhV2M8k0to2fDMOfjrc7P-3fDYQcIh5nPAYNzCeXJJlRzwM]xsavior38@h...[/url
    Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:36 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: palm to basic stamp tokenizer?


    i want it too, when are you guys making one, [noparse]:)[/noparse] one of the greatest
    tools in my learning proces is bieng able to take it any where via
    piece of paper a palm and a small bag of tools, this would rock,
    personally i use palm vx, so i guess the conection on the bottom
    would need to be hijacked for serial use, id like to see you guys
    make a palm aplication



    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > No. You could edit source files, but there is no
    compiler/downloader
    > available for the Palm OS.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: tundra242 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:tundra242@y...]
    > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:00 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    >
    >
    > Can you write in Pbasic on a palm handheld and write the program
    by
    > the serial port to a BASIC stamp?




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-20 13:27
    well since theres NO plan to make one, the longer people keep this
    string alive and voice how they would like it ,, maybee we have a
    chance of twisting your guys arm about adopting a plan to make one
    heheheh,
    hint hint to any one else who would utilize it, post a reply to
    this string ,, consider it a petition, i know for me when im in the
    final stages of designing a program , its usefull to be able to pop
    it out and update it when i relize what i need to do , bieng able to
    do that basically ne where, with out having a brief case, wouold
    rockor ,, if you build it they will come ,,, so if they come and
    they didnt build it yet does that mean since they came it will be
    built? if a tree fell in the forest would ne one hear it, lol ,,
    comon guys BUILD IT PLEASE!

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > We have no current plans to make an editor for the Palm OS.
    That's not
    > to say that we won't at some point in the future, but there is no
    > guarantee.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: jutsuju [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:xsavior38@h...]
    > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:36 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    >
    >
    > i want it too, when are you guys making one, [noparse]:)[/noparse] one of the
    greatest
    > tools in my learning proces is bieng able to take it any where via
    > piece of paper a palm and a small bag of tools, this would rock,
    > personally i use palm vx, so i guess the conection on the bottom
    > would need to be hijacked for serial use, id like to see you guys
    > make a palm aplication
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams"
    <jwilliams@p...>
    > wrote:
    > > No. You could edit source files, but there is no
    > compiler/downloader
    > > available for the Palm OS.
    > >
    > > -- Jon Williams
    > > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > > -- Dallas Office
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: tundra242 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:tundra242@y...]
    > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:00 PM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    > >
    > >
    > > Can you write in Pbasic on a palm handheld and write the program
    > by
    > > the serial port to a BASIC stamp?
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-20 16:17
    Has anyone tried or successfully programmed a BASIC Stamp 2, using the
    BASIC Stamp Programming protocol example (included with the current
    tokenizer release), on a Palm-based device? Our specific concern is the
    ability to create a hardware connection to the Palm and generating a
    break-condition and proper timing. If someone is willing to
    prove/disprove that it can be done, we'd consider this request further.

    Thank you.

    Best Regards,

    Erik Wood
    ewood@p...
    Parallax, Inc.
    Marketing
    (916) 624-8333 x106
    www.parallax.com


    Original Message
    From: jutsuju [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=bVRoRtIuXynjgkVrdzhGCE2ozHluaTqIpEfHWr3Ie_4vgoyx-hGDkDbRs8gz52Fxa539Xs8cWHuvrh0hhpO5]xsavior38@h...[/url
    Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:28 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: palm to basic stamp tokenizer?


    well since theres NO plan to make one, the longer people keep this
    string alive and voice how they would like it ,, maybee we have a
    chance of twisting your guys arm about adopting a plan to make one
    heheheh,
    hint hint to any one else who would utilize it, post a reply to
    this string ,, consider it a petition, i know for me when im in the
    final stages of designing a program , its usefull to be able to pop
    it out and update it when i relize what i need to do , bieng able to
    do that basically ne where, with out having a brief case, wouold
    rockor ,, if you build it they will come ,,, so if they come and
    they didnt build it yet does that mean since they came it will be
    built? if a tree fell in the forest would ne one hear it, lol ,,
    comon guys BUILD IT PLEASE!

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > We have no current plans to make an editor for the Palm OS.
    That's not
    > to say that we won't at some point in the future, but there is no
    > guarantee.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: jutsuju [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:xsavior38@h...]
    > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:36 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    >
    >
    > i want it too, when are you guys making one, [noparse]:)[/noparse] one of the
    greatest
    > tools in my learning proces is bieng able to take it any where via
    > piece of paper a palm and a small bag of tools, this would rock,
    > personally i use palm vx, so i guess the conection on the bottom
    > would need to be hijacked for serial use, id like to see you guys
    > make a palm aplication
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams"
    <jwilliams@p...>
    > wrote:
    > > No. You could edit source files, but there is no
    > compiler/downloader
    > > available for the Palm OS.
    > >
    > > -- Jon Williams
    > > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > > -- Dallas Office
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: tundra242 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:tundra242@y...]
    > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:00 PM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    > >
    > >
    > > Can you write in Pbasic on a palm handheld and write the program
    > by
    > > the serial port to a BASIC stamp?
    >
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-20 16:20
    I belong to the Dallas Personal Robotics Group, and the group uses this
    phrase (coined, I think, by Roger Arrick): "It's harder than it looks."
    And, really, not many people are asking for it. Before you get down, we
    think it's important too (though low on our priority list), but we have
    to do it as part of a larger strategy. Myself and others are
    investigating tools and methods for us to deliver BASIC Stamp tools that
    work on a variety of platforms -- but this will take time, so please
    allow us.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    -- Dallas Office


    Original Message
    From: jutsuju [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=uQ7Zfzhph32bJ2Rqxyz1JIb52hDSz1BeUru9QrBZlJFiCymLeH0TwKoxsk1xys_Ztgvvi7dcBSBARGVPRemY]xsavior38@h...[/url
    Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:28 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: palm to basic stamp tokenizer?


    well since theres NO plan to make one, the longer people keep this
    string alive and voice how they would like it ,, maybee we have a
    chance of twisting your guys arm about adopting a plan to make one
    heheheh,
    hint hint to any one else who would utilize it, post a reply to
    this string ,, consider it a petition, i know for me when im in the
    final stages of designing a program , its usefull to be able to pop
    it out and update it when i relize what i need to do , bieng able to
    do that basically ne where, with out having a brief case, wouold
    rockor ,, if you build it they will come ,,, so if they come and
    they didnt build it yet does that mean since they came it will be
    built? if a tree fell in the forest would ne one hear it, lol ,,
    comon guys BUILD IT PLEASE!

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > We have no current plans to make an editor for the Palm OS.
    That's not
    > to say that we won't at some point in the future, but there is no
    > guarantee.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: jutsuju [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:xsavior38@h...]
    > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:36 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    >
    >
    > i want it too, when are you guys making one, [noparse]:)[/noparse] one of the
    greatest
    > tools in my learning proces is bieng able to take it any where via
    > piece of paper a palm and a small bag of tools, this would rock,
    > personally i use palm vx, so i guess the conection on the bottom
    > would need to be hijacked for serial use, id like to see you guys
    > make a palm aplication
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams"
    <jwilliams@p...>
    > wrote:
    > > No. You could edit source files, but there is no
    > compiler/downloader
    > > available for the Palm OS.
    > >
    > > -- Jon Williams
    > > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > > -- Dallas Office
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: tundra242 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:tundra242@y...]
    > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:00 PM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    > >
    > >
    > > Can you write in Pbasic on a palm handheld and write the program
    > by
    > > the serial port to a BASIC stamp?
    >
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-20 18:06
    A couple of months ago I wrote about the hardware issues,
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/basicstamps/message/38038?threaded=1

    I use the Palm for field data offloads, and it is fine for that.
    However, for programming, it takes an external one-shot circuit to
    generate the BREAK and reset pulses required initiate the programming
    cycle. AFAIK, the Palm serial port is not capable of generating
    those signals without external help.

    The Stache at http://www.emesystems.com/stache.htm is useful for
    field program updates.

    -- Tracy




    >Has anyone tried or successfully programmed a BASIC Stamp 2, using the
    >BASIC Stamp Programming protocol example (included with the current
    >tokenizer release), on a Palm-based device? Our specific concern is the
    >ability to create a hardware connection to the Palm and generating a
    >break-condition and proper timing. If someone is willing to
    >prove/disprove that it can be done, we'd consider this request further.
    >
    >Thank you.
    >
    >Best Regards,
    >
    >Erik Wood
    >ewood@p...
    >
    >Parallax, Inc.
    >Marketing
    >(916) 624-8333 x106
    >www.parallax.com
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: jutsuju [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=coY8lGND_HljuW1sbz8ThZ4KLVv4gd_zYfy049OkF5GPqx_TlMwoEPz4_8I59btkXB2VkheuZVyUCrKk]xsavior38@h...[/url
    >Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:28 AM
    >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    >
    >
    >well since theres NO plan to make one, the longer people keep this
    >string alive and voice how they would like it ,, maybee we have a
    >chance of twisting your guys arm about adopting a plan to make one
    >heheheh,
    >hint hint to any one else who would utilize it, post a reply to
    >this string ,, consider it a petition, i know for me when im in the
    >final stages of designing a program , its usefull to be able to pop
    >it out and update it when i relize what i need to do , bieng able to
    >do that basically ne where, with out having a brief case, wouold
    >rockor ,, if you build it they will come ,,, so if they come and
    >they didnt build it yet does that mean since they came it will be
    >built? if a tree fell in the forest would ne one hear it, lol ,,
    >comon guys BUILD IT PLEASE!
    >
    >--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    >wrote:
    >> We have no current plans to make an editor for the Palm OS.
    >That's not
    >> to say that we won't at some point in the future, but there is no
    >> guarantee.
    >>
    >> -- Jon Williams
    >> -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    >> -- Dallas Office
    >>
    >>
    >>
    Original Message
    >> From: jutsuju [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:xsavior38@h...]
    >> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:36 PM
    >> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    >>
    >>
    >> i want it too, when are you guys making one, [noparse]:)[/noparse] one of the
    >greatest
    >> tools in my learning proces is bieng able to take it any where via
    >> piece of paper a palm and a small bag of tools, this would rock,
    >> personally i use palm vx, so i guess the conection on the bottom
    >> would need to be hijacked for serial use, id like to see you guys
    >> make a palm aplication
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams"
    ><jwilliams@p...>
    >> wrote:
    >> > No. You could edit source files, but there is no
    >> compiler/downloader
    >> > available for the Palm OS.
    >> >
    >> > -- Jon Williams
    >> > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    >> > -- Dallas Office
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    Original Message
    >> > From: tundra242 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:tundra242@y...]
    >> > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:00 PM
    >> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] palm to basic stamp tokenizer?
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Can you write in Pbasic on a palm handheld and write the program
    >> by
    >> > the serial port to a BASIC stamp?
    >>
    >>
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