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Noisy Boat

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2004-04-19 22:21 in General Discussion
I want to use a Stamp to control 3 drive motors in an r/c model boat…
basically to act as a mixer, taking output from a 2 channel radio to
control the rudders and the 3 motors in interesting ways.
My first trial was a bit glitchy, though I'm not sure where the
problem was. I have caps on the motors, but I imagine it's still a
noisy environment.
Questions:
Are Stamps themselves likely to be bothered by noisy environments?
I can imagine picking up noise in the leads connected to the I/O
pins… any techniques to minimize these effects, besides physical
distance from the power leads?

Thanks,
Pat M

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-19 18:17
    Hello,
    The stamps can be bothered by noise if the spike are high
    enough. When you stated glitchy, is the stamp resetting or are you
    getting false triggers or jumpy returns from the RC receiver?

    Stephen Swanson
    Technical Support Manager
    Parallax, Inc.
    599 Menlo Drive, #100
    Rocklin, CA 95765

    Phone (916) 624-8333
    E-mail ..... sswanson@p...
    Main site...... www.parallax.com
    Educational site.... www.parallax.com/sic
    Javelin Stamp... www.parallax.com/javelin


    Original Message
    From: Pat Matthews [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=W3rOVdLKxf7oREgQKvQEhUavECsQpAFQlDFFiXLaksDyLKZI3bP4nbpanv8b7tfvIWwLSX6VO4Ur00E]patmat2350@a...[/url
    Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:03 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Noisy Boat

    I want to use a Stamp to control 3 drive motors in an r/c model boat...
    basically to act as a mixer, taking output from a 2 channel radio to
    control the rudders and the 3 motors in interesting ways.
    My first trial was a bit glitchy, though I'm not sure where the
    problem was. I have caps on the motors, but I imagine it's still a
    noisy environment.
    Questions:
    Are Stamps themselves likely to be bothered by noisy environments?
    I can imagine picking up noise in the leads connected to the I/O
    pins... any techniques to minimize these effects, besides physical
    distance from the power leads?

    Thanks,
    Pat M



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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-19 20:54
    Symptons were: dead in the water, and odd jumpy behaviour from the
    ESC's/motors. Didn't deep-dive it, as I'm rebuilding it in a new
    incarnation. Just wondering how best to protect from noise in the new
    build.
    Thanks,
    Pat M

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Swanson" <sswanson@p...>
    wrote:
    > Hello,
    > The stamps can be bothered by noise if the spike are high
    > enough. When you stated glitchy, is the stamp resetting or are you
    > getting false triggers or jumpy returns from the RC receiver?
    >
    > Stephen Swanson
    > Technical Support Manager
    > Parallax, Inc.
    > 599 Menlo Drive, #100
    > Rocklin, CA 95765
    >
    > Phone (916) 624-8333
    > E-mail ..... sswanson@p...
    > Main site...... www.parallax.com
    > Educational site.... www.parallax.com/sic
    > Javelin Stamp... www.parallax.com/javelin
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Pat Matthews [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:p[/noparse]atmat2350@a...]
    > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:03 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Noisy Boat
    >
    > I want to use a Stamp to control 3 drive motors in an r/c model
    boat...
    > basically to act as a mixer, taking output from a 2 channel radio
    to
    > control the rudders and the 3 motors in interesting ways.
    > My first trial was a bit glitchy, though I'm not sure where the
    > problem was. I have caps on the motors, but I imagine it's still a
    > noisy environment.
    > Questions:
    > Are Stamps themselves likely to be bothered by noisy environments?
    > I can imagine picking up noise in the leads connected to the I/O
    > pins... any techniques to minimize these effects, besides physical
    > distance from the power leads?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Pat M
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-04-19 22:21
    Hello,
    Odd it seems like it is getting reset and false triggers. You
    might want to try a bent piece of aluminum that is ground. This is
    placed between the motor driver and the stamp. If this still shows
    errors you might have to use some opto isolators www.Jameco.com carries
    them.


    Stephen Swanson
    Technical Support Manager
    Parallax, Inc.
    599 Menlo Drive, #100
    Rocklin, CA 95765

    Phone (916) 624-8333
    E-mail ..... sswanson@p...
    Main site...... www.parallax.com
    Educational site.... www.parallax.com/sic
    Javelin Stamp... www.parallax.com/javelin


    Original Message
    From: Pat Matthews [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=g8Hb6oqX0EfGmfOI8poaOZ6CssQWboElL8xc8kAaivW4dvDc1CD7TR2H6zyo6Bs85ZbFHuJAh3mA-o24Pg]patmat2350@a...[/url
    Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:54 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Noisy Boat

    Symptons were: dead in the water, and odd jumpy behaviour from the
    ESC's/motors. Didn't deep-dive it, as I'm rebuilding it in a new
    incarnation. Just wondering how best to protect from noise in the new
    build.
    Thanks,
    Pat M

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Swanson" <sswanson@p...>
    wrote:
    > Hello,
    > The stamps can be bothered by noise if the spike are high
    > enough. When you stated glitchy, is the stamp resetting or are you
    > getting false triggers or jumpy returns from the RC receiver?
    >
    > Stephen Swanson
    > Technical Support Manager
    > Parallax, Inc.
    > 599 Menlo Drive, #100
    > Rocklin, CA 95765
    >
    > Phone (916) 624-8333
    > E-mail ..... sswanson@p...
    > Main site...... www.parallax.com
    > Educational site.... www.parallax.com/sic
    > Javelin Stamp... www.parallax.com/javelin
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Pat Matthews [noparse][[/noparse]mailto[noparse]:p[/noparse]atmat2350@a...]
    > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 9:03 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Noisy Boat
    >
    > I want to use a Stamp to control 3 drive motors in an r/c model
    boat...
    > basically to act as a mixer, taking output from a 2 channel radio
    to
    > control the rudders and the 3 motors in interesting ways.
    > My first trial was a bit glitchy, though I'm not sure where the
    > problem was. I have caps on the motors, but I imagine it's still a
    > noisy environment.
    > Questions:
    > Are Stamps themselves likely to be bothered by noisy environments?
    > I can imagine picking up noise in the leads connected to the I/O
    > pins... any techniques to minimize these effects, besides physical
    > distance from the power leads?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Pat M
    >
    >
    >
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