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RF module alternatives

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2004-01-30 12:13 in General Discussion
Pinging the group to see if anyone knows of an RF module that can
communicate with a ucontroller much like the Surelink device, but is
a smaller form factor? I am developing a small electronic device
and have very little room for electronic components.

A response from anyone would be much appreciated.


Patrick

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-24 22:55
    Gee Patrick, what a great question. I'm sure someone in the group
    would love to help you. Just be patient.

    Patrick

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "rodroddy_778"
    <rodroddy_778@y...> wrote:
    > Pinging the group to see if anyone knows of an RF module that can
    > communicate with a ucontroller much like the Surelink device, but
    is
    > a smaller form factor? I am developing a small electronic device
    > and have very little room for electronic components.
    >
    > A response from anyone would be much appreciated.
    >
    >
    > Patrick
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-25 08:55
    Hello Patrick,

    dont know what kind of RF module youre looking for, but sure you have space
    constrains.

    Im using Chipcon's CC1020 with great success. Its a wee RF chip, with all
    the RF electronics inbuilt. And its very very small.
    Check www.chipcon.com

    You may also check www.nvlsi.com and www.rfm.com.


    Antonio Sergio Sena






    Original Message
    From: "rodroddy_778" <rodroddy_778@y...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:55 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: RF module alternatives


    > Gee Patrick, what a great question. I'm sure someone in the group
    > would love to help you. Just be patient.
    >
    > Patrick
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "rodroddy_778"
    > <rodroddy_778@y...> wrote:
    > > Pinging the group to see if anyone knows of an RF module that can
    > > communicate with a ucontroller much like the Surelink device, but
    > is
    > > a smaller form factor? I am developing a small electronic device
    > > and have very little room for electronic components.
    > >
    > > A response from anyone would be much appreciated.
    > >
    > >
    > > Patrick
    >
    >






    Ant
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-26 04:59
    Hi,
    Antonio:

    I was wondering why kind of application are you using the chip in?
    Also did you design your own board for the rf chip? I'm intersted in
    using the same chip and was curious about your experiences.

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Antonio Sergio Sena" <asena@p...>
    wrote:
    > Hello Patrick,
    >
    > dont know what kind of RF module youre looking for, but sure you
    have space
    > constrains.
    >
    > Im using Chipcon's CC1020 with great success. Its a wee RF chip,
    with all
    > the RF electronics inbuilt. And its very very small.
    > Check www.chipcon.com
    >
    > You may also check www.nvlsi.com and www.rfm.com.
    >
    >
    > Antonio Sergio Sena
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "rodroddy_778" <rodroddy_778@y...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:55 PM
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: RF module alternatives
    >
    >
    > > Gee Patrick, what a great question. I'm sure someone in the group
    > > would love to help you. Just be patient.
    > >
    > > Patrick
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "rodroddy_778"
    > > <rodroddy_778@y...> wrote:
    > > > Pinging the group to see if anyone knows of an RF module that
    can
    > > > communicate with a ucontroller much like the Surelink device,
    but
    > > is
    > > > a smaller form factor? I am developing a small electronic
    device
    > > > and have very little room for electronic components.
    > > >
    > > > A response from anyone would be much appreciated.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Patrick
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Ant
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-26 07:07
    Hello Kevin

    i am using them to embbed on another small board, that will perform
    telemetry of any kind of system you connect it to.
    I did my own board design, dual side, pth.

    The main points on using this chip:

    - since it hasnt any pins, you need a FlipChipBonder machine, to position
    the chips. Theyre so small... that its very difficult to do it right, if you
    dont use the machine. But still, it has to be done on a good PCB, good flux
    and good solder. Even though, doing it at hand with a machine, is tricky. I
    know that being done in a factory, the problems disapear.

    - just an almost empty hand of passive components go around it. The PLL bias
    resistor should be 0.1pct.

    - extremely easy to work with SPI to configure it, and the DATA IO is done
    by two serial pins.


    If you like it, you may purchase an application board from Chipcon. They
    have it ready to use. But is big, and only for lab work.
    We are planning here to design and assemble a board the size of 1/4 credit
    card, with the CC1020 chip, all passives and RF antenna connector, and of
    course the connector for the uC. So, anyone that wants to work with it,
    doesnt need to be stuck with the only Chipcon's solution.

    Above all, if you go through the specifications, youll see that the internal
    codecs for data and modulation, are extremely useful for the designer. And
    +10dBm output !!


    Open to more questions, feel free.

    Antonio Sergio Sena






    Original Message
    From: "kevikevtmc" <kevikevtmc@y...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 4:59 AM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: RF module alternatives


    Hi,
    Antonio:

    I was wondering why kind of application are you using the chip in?
    Also did you design your own board for the rf chip? I'm intersted in
    using the same chip and was curious about your experiences.

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Antonio Sergio Sena" <asena@p...>
    wrote:
    > Hello Patrick,
    >
    > dont know what kind of RF module youre looking for, but sure you
    have space
    > constrains.
    >
    > Im using Chipcon's CC1020 with great success. Its a wee RF chip,
    with all
    > the RF electronics inbuilt. And its very very small.
    > Check www.chipcon.com
    >
    > You may also check www.nvlsi.com and www.rfm.com.
    >
    >
    > Antonio Sergio Sena
    >
    >
    >
    >



    Ant
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-27 05:10
    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "rodroddy_778"
    <rodroddy_778@y...> wrote:
    > an RF module that can communicate with a ucontroller
    > a smaller form factor?

    Have a look at http://www.linxtechnologies.com/

    I've heard good things about their products. I just bought one of
    their RXM-418-LC-S receiver chip and a TXM-418-LC transmitter chip
    from Digikey.

    They look very easy to use. Just download the data sheets and have a
    look.

    I have not done anything with the parts yet, but soon...
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-27 15:16
    Rodroddy,

    I have used the LINX modules you mentioned a bunch. While I have got them to
    work very well with a PIC, I have only had so-so results with a Stamp. I get
    about 1/2 the range. I spent a lot of time trying to track it down, but to
    no avail. Please let me know your results, I like the Linx stuff and want to
    get it to work properly with a Stamp.

    Jonathan

    www.madlabs.info

    Original Message
    From: <hathaway@d...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:10 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: RF module alternatives


    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "rodroddy_778"
    > <rodroddy_778@y...> wrote:
    > > an RF module that can communicate with a ucontroller
    > > a smaller form factor?
    >
    > Have a look at http://www.linxtechnologies.com/
    >
    > I've heard good things about their products. I just bought one of
    > their RXM-418-LC-S receiver chip and a TXM-418-LC transmitter chip
    > from Digikey.
    >
    > They look very easy to use. Just download the data sheets and have a
    > look.
    >
    > I have not done anything with the parts yet, but soon...
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-27 19:08
    Hi,

    Thanks for the info. I was wondering if Chipcon has a distributor or
    where do you get your CC1020 chips from? I think that the $60 for 5
    chips sample is pretty expensive.

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Antonio Sergio Sena" <asena@p...>
    wrote:
    > Hello Kevin
    >
    > i am using them to embbed on another small board, that will perform
    > telemetry of any kind of system you connect it to.
    > I did my own board design, dual side, pth.
    >
    > The main points on using this chip:
    >
    > - since it hasnt any pins, you need a FlipChipBonder machine, to
    position
    > the chips. Theyre so small... that its very difficult to do it
    right, if you
    > dont use the machine. But still, it has to be done on a good PCB,
    good flux
    > and good solder. Even though, doing it at hand with a machine, is
    tricky. I
    > know that being done in a factory, the problems disapear.
    >
    > - just an almost empty hand of passive components go around it. The
    PLL bias
    > resistor should be 0.1pct.
    >
    > - extremely easy to work with SPI to configure it, and the DATA IO
    is done
    > by two serial pins.
    >
    >
    > If you like it, you may purchase an application board from Chipcon.
    They
    > have it ready to use. But is big, and only for lab work.
    > We are planning here to design and assemble a board the size of 1/4
    credit
    > card, with the CC1020 chip, all passives and RF antenna connector,
    and of
    > course the connector for the uC. So, anyone that wants to work with
    it,
    > doesnt need to be stuck with the only Chipcon's solution.
    >
    > Above all, if you go through the specifications, youll see that the
    internal
    > codecs for data and modulation, are extremely useful for the
    designer. And
    > +10dBm output !!
    >
    >
    > Open to more questions, feel free.
    >
    > Antonio Sergio Sena
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "kevikevtmc" <kevikevtmc@y...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 4:59 AM
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: RF module alternatives
    >
    >
    > Hi,
    > Antonio:
    >
    > I was wondering why kind of application are you using the chip in?
    > Also did you design your own board for the rf chip? I'm intersted in
    > using the same chip and was curious about your experiences.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Kevin
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Antonio Sergio Sena" <asena@p..
    .>
    > wrote:
    > > Hello Patrick,
    > >
    > > dont know what kind of RF module youre looking for, but sure you
    > have space
    > > constrains.
    > >
    > > Im using Chipcon's CC1020 with great success. Its a wee RF chip,
    > with all
    > > the RF electronics inbuilt. And its very very small.
    > > Check www.chipcon.com
    > >
    > > You may also check www.nvlsi.com and www.rfm.com.
    > >
    > >
    > > Antonio Sergio Sena
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Ant
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-28 07:47
    hello

    Yes they have distributers, and depend of where you are in the world!
    The first time i bought them, i payed that for the 5 samples.
    But when buying in quantity, you get a very good deal.

    Check their web for distributors.

    I bought mines from the Portuguese (terrible) distributer.


    Antonio Sergio Sena







    >
    Original Message
    > From: "kevikevtmc" <kevikevtmc@y...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 7:08 PM
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: RF module alternatives
    >
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > Thanks for the info. I was wondering if Chipcon has a distributor or
    > where do you get your CC1020 chips from? I think that the $60 for 5
    > chips sample is pretty expensive.
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Antonio Sergio Sena" <asena@p...>
    > wrote:
    > > Hello Kevin
    > >
    > > i am using them to embbed on another small board, that will perform
    > > telemetry of any kind of system you connect it to.
    > > I did my own board design, dual side, pth.
    > >
    > > The main points on using this chip:
    > >
    > > - since it hasnt any pins, you need a FlipChipBonder machine, to
    > position
    > > the chips. Theyre so small... that its very difficult to do it
    > right, if you
    > > dont use the machine. But still, it has to be done on a good PCB,
    > good flux
    > > and good solder. Even though, doing it at hand with a machine, is
    > tricky. I
    > > know that being done in a factory, the problems disapear.
    > >
    > > - just an almost empty hand of passive components go around it. The
    > PLL bias
    > > resistor should be 0.1pct.
    > >
    > > - extremely easy to work with SPI to configure it, and the DATA IO
    > is done
    > > by two serial pins.
    > >
    > >
    > > If you like it, you may purchase an application board from Chipcon.
    > They
    > > have it ready to use. But is big, and only for lab work.
    > > We are planning here to design and assemble a board the size of 1/4
    > credit
    > > card, with the CC1020 chip, all passives and RF antenna connector,
    > and of
    > > course the connector for the uC. So, anyone that wants to work with
    > it,
    > > doesnt need to be stuck with the only Chipcon's solution.
    > >
    > > Above all, if you go through the specifications, youll see that the
    > internal
    > > codecs for data and modulation, are extremely useful for the
    > designer. And
    > > +10dBm output !!
    > >
    > >
    > > Open to more questions, feel free.
    > >
    > > Antonio Sergio Sena
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-30 12:13
    In a message dated 1/27/2004 8:15:05 AM Mountain Standard Time,
    hathaway@d... writes:
    Have a look at http://www.linxtechnologies.com/

    I've heard good things about their products. I just bought one of
    their RXM-418-LC-S receiver chip and a TXM-418-LC transmitter chip
    from Digikey.

    They look very easy to use. Just download the data sheets and have a
    look.

    I have not done anything with the parts yet, but soon...
    Take a look at Reynolds Electronics (www.rentron.com). They sell these Linix
    modules assembled with antennas. I have used lots of them with very good
    success with my Stamps.


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