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MAX 1270 A to D chip

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2004-01-06 02:42 in General Discussion
Hi All,

I recently got a Maxim MAX1270 A to D chip and have interfaced it
with my BS2SX. However I'm having difficulty interpreting the
results. I'm used to the MAX186 which has limited input range of
4.096V and the 12 bit number returned is always the exact voltage at
the input channel.

The MAX1270 has selectable input ranges which can go as high as +10V.
It's still however only 12 bits. For example when selecting the 0 to
+10V range, 10V comes in as 111111111111. Still 4096 in base 10.

Perhaps I'm not understanding the data encoding that's being used. I
was under the impression that this device would automatically handle
this. How do I get the Stamp to display the proper voltage on the
DEBUG terminal when using these extended ranges? Thanks for any help.

-Dave

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-04 14:43
    Dave,

    I *think* that is how it should work. The extended range allows higher
    inputs, but it doesn't change the bits, so it will always be a number
    between 0-4096.

    I don't have a data sheet for that chip, but does it allow a Vref greater
    than 5V? If not, you will need to do math to figure the higher voltage.

    Jonathan

    www.madlabs.info



    Original Message
    From: "nuclearspin2000" <nuclearspin2000@y...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:12 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] MAX 1270 A to D chip


    > Hi All,
    >
    > I recently got a Maxim MAX1270 A to D chip and have interfaced it
    > with my BS2SX. However I'm having difficulty interpreting the
    > results. I'm used to the MAX186 which has limited input range of
    > 4.096V and the 12 bit number returned is always the exact voltage at
    > the input channel.
    >
    > The MAX1270 has selectable input ranges which can go as high as +10V.
    > It's still however only 12 bits. For example when selecting the 0 to
    > +10V range, 10V comes in as 111111111111. Still 4096 in base 10.
    >
    > Perhaps I'm not understanding the data encoding that's being used. I
    > was under the impression that this device would automatically handle
    > this. How do I get the Stamp to display the proper voltage on the
    > DEBUG terminal when using these extended ranges? Thanks for any help.
    >
    > -Dave
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-04 17:06
    When you change the range you change the bit resolution, hence the way
    you convert from the raw reading to millivolts. We use the MAX1270 in
    the Stamp PLC -- the docs and code examples for that device will show
    how to use the MAX1270 in different ranges. Here's a link:

    <http://www.parallax.com/detail.asp?product_id=30064>

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Parallax


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    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] MAX 1270 A to D chip


    Hi All,

    I recently got a Maxim MAX1270 A to D chip and have interfaced it
    with my BS2SX. However I'm having difficulty interpreting the
    results. I'm used to the MAX186 which has limited input range of
    4.096V and the 12 bit number returned is always the exact voltage at
    the input channel.

    The MAX1270 has selectable input ranges which can go as high as +10V.
    It's still however only 12 bits. For example when selecting the 0 to
    +10V range, 10V comes in as 111111111111. Still 4096 in base 10.

    Perhaps I'm not understanding the data encoding that's being used. I
    was under the impression that this device would automatically handle
    this. How do I get the Stamp to display the proper voltage on the
    DEBUG terminal when using these extended ranges? Thanks for any help.

    -Dave


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-05 03:17
    Hi Jonathan,

    The math is easy enough but unfortunately it requires floating point
    math as far as I can tell which Stamps don't do. I'm still scouring
    through the Stamp PLC manual that Jon suggested trying to find out
    exactly what parallax is doing.

    -Dave

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan Peakall"
    <jpeakall@p...> wrote:
    > Dave,
    >
    > I *think* that is how it should work. The extended range allows
    higher
    > inputs, but it doesn't change the bits, so it will always be a
    number
    > between 0-4096.
    >
    > I don't have a data sheet for that chip, but does it allow a Vref
    greater
    > than 5V? If not, you will need to do math to figure the higher
    voltage.
    >
    > Jonathan
    >
    > www.madlabs.info
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "nuclearspin2000" <nuclearspin2000@y...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:12 PM
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] MAX 1270 A to D chip
    >
    >
    > > Hi All,
    > >
    > > I recently got a Maxim MAX1270 A to D chip and have interfaced it
    > > with my BS2SX. However I'm having difficulty interpreting the
    > > results. I'm used to the MAX186 which has limited input range of
    > > 4.096V and the 12 bit number returned is always the exact voltage
    at
    > > the input channel.
    > >
    > > The MAX1270 has selectable input ranges which can go as high as
    +10V.
    > > It's still however only 12 bits. For example when selecting the 0
    to
    > > +10V range, 10V comes in as 111111111111. Still 4096 in base 10.
    > >
    > > Perhaps I'm not understanding the data encoding that's being
    used. I
    > > was under the impression that this device would automatically
    handle
    > > this. How do I get the Stamp to display the proper voltage on the
    > > DEBUG terminal when using these extended ranges? Thanks for any
    help.
    > >
    > > -Dave
    > >
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-05 04:37
    Dave,

    I bet it can be done with integer math. If anyone can do it on this list, it
    is Tracy Allen. He also has a great page about integer math on his site:
    http://www.emesystems.com/BS2index.htm

    Scroll down a little, and you will see a bunch of Stamp math stuff.

    Hope this helps!

    Jonathan

    www.madlabs.info



    Original Message
    From: "nuclearspin2000" <nuclearspin2000@y...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:17 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: MAX 1270 A to D chip


    > Hi Jonathan,
    >
    > The math is easy enough but unfortunately it requires floating point
    > math as far as I can tell which Stamps don't do. I'm still scouring
    > through the Stamp PLC manual that Jon suggested trying to find out
    > exactly what parallax is doing.
    >
    > -Dave
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan Peakall"
    > <jpeakall@p...> wrote:
    > > Dave,
    > >
    > > I *think* that is how it should work. The extended range allows
    > higher
    > > inputs, but it doesn't change the bits, so it will always be a
    > number
    > > between 0-4096.
    > >
    > > I don't have a data sheet for that chip, but does it allow a Vref
    > greater
    > > than 5V? If not, you will need to do math to figure the higher
    > voltage.
    > >
    > > Jonathan
    > >
    > > www.madlabs.info
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: "nuclearspin2000" <nuclearspin2000@y...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:12 PM
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] MAX 1270 A to D chip
    > >
    > >
    > > > Hi All,
    > > >
    > > > I recently got a Maxim MAX1270 A to D chip and have interfaced it
    > > > with my BS2SX. However I'm having difficulty interpreting the
    > > > results. I'm used to the MAX186 which has limited input range of
    > > > 4.096V and the 12 bit number returned is always the exact voltage
    > at
    > > > the input channel.
    > > >
    > > > The MAX1270 has selectable input ranges which can go as high as
    > +10V.
    > > > It's still however only 12 bits. For example when selecting the 0
    > to
    > > > +10V range, 10V comes in as 111111111111. Still 4096 in base 10.
    > > >
    > > > Perhaps I'm not understanding the data encoding that's being
    > used. I
    > > > was under the impression that this device would automatically
    > handle
    > > > this. How do I get the Stamp to display the proper voltage on the
    > > > DEBUG terminal when using these extended ranges? Thanks for any
    > help.
    > > >
    > > > -Dave
    > > >
    > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-05 04:56
    Engineers have done fractional math without FP routines for a very long
    time. The Stamp, in fact, has two operators that allow one to multiply
    by a fractional value: the */ operator and the ** operator. Yes, the
    results are integers, but that can be overcome as well.

    Let me correct my suggestion: Look a the StampPLC "template" code.
    Also, the January issue of Nuts & Volts magazine has an article
    explaining that code and the Javelin version as well.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    -- Dallas Office


    Original Message
    From: nuclearspin2000 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=w5DnYLhLjb6PvRW9DRFCiUAfhQVa-WMmag6VYK5VKf1fpenPV0Q7WfFhQYY0lVVtLwmWYzKoSVnHYXiSrHJ-]nuclearspin2000@y...[/url
    Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:18 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: MAX 1270 A to D chip


    Hi Jonathan,

    The math is easy enough but unfortunately it requires floating point
    math as far as I can tell which Stamps don't do. I'm still scouring
    through the Stamp PLC manual that Jon suggested trying to find out
    exactly what parallax is doing.

    -Dave

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan Peakall"
    <jpeakall@p...> wrote:
    > Dave,
    >
    > I *think* that is how it should work. The extended range allows
    higher
    > inputs, but it doesn't change the bits, so it will always be a
    number
    > between 0-4096.
    >
    > I don't have a data sheet for that chip, but does it allow a Vref
    greater
    > than 5V? If not, you will need to do math to figure the higher
    voltage.
    >
    > Jonathan
    >
    > www.madlabs.info
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "nuclearspin2000" <nuclearspin2000@y...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:12 PM
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] MAX 1270 A to D chip
    >
    >
    > > Hi All,
    > >
    > > I recently got a Maxim MAX1270 A to D chip and have interfaced it
    > > with my BS2SX. However I'm having difficulty interpreting the
    > > results. I'm used to the MAX186 which has limited input range of
    > > 4.096V and the 12 bit number returned is always the exact voltage
    at
    > > the input channel.
    > >
    > > The MAX1270 has selectable input ranges which can go as high as
    +10V.
    > > It's still however only 12 bits. For example when selecting the 0
    to
    > > +10V range, 10V comes in as 111111111111. Still 4096 in base 10.
    > >
    > > Perhaps I'm not understanding the data encoding that's being
    used. I
    > > was under the impression that this device would automatically
    handle
    > > this. How do I get the Stamp to display the proper voltage on the
    > > DEBUG terminal when using these extended ranges? Thanks for any
    help.
    > >
    > > -Dave
    > >
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-05 05:20
    Thanks Jon, I'll have a closer look. I did notice those operators
    being used in some of the example code. As for the Nuts & Volts
    article, good thing I subscribe. I'll check that out as well.

    -Dave

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > Engineers have done fractional math without FP routines for a very
    long
    > time. The Stamp, in fact, has two operators that allow one to
    multiply
    > by a fractional value: the */ operator and the ** operator. Yes,
    the
    > results are integers, but that can be overcome as well.
    >
    > Let me correct my suggestion: Look a the StampPLC "template" code.
    > Also, the January issue of Nuts & Volts magazine has an article
    > explaining that code and the Javelin version as well.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: nuclearspin2000 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:nuclearspin2000@y...]
    > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:18 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: MAX 1270 A to D chip
    >
    >
    > Hi Jonathan,
    >
    > The math is easy enough but unfortunately it requires floating
    point
    > math as far as I can tell which Stamps don't do. I'm still scouring
    > through the Stamp PLC manual that Jon suggested trying to find out
    > exactly what parallax is doing.
    >
    > -Dave
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan Peakall"
    > <jpeakall@p...> wrote:
    > > Dave,
    > >
    > > I *think* that is how it should work. The extended range allows
    > higher
    > > inputs, but it doesn't change the bits, so it will always be a
    > number
    > > between 0-4096.
    > >
    > > I don't have a data sheet for that chip, but does it allow a Vref
    > greater
    > > than 5V? If not, you will need to do math to figure the higher
    > voltage.
    > >
    > > Jonathan
    > >
    > > www.madlabs.info
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: "nuclearspin2000" <nuclearspin2000@y...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:12 PM
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] MAX 1270 A to D chip
    > >
    > >
    > > > Hi All,
    > > >
    > > > I recently got a Maxim MAX1270 A to D chip and have interfaced
    it
    > > > with my BS2SX. However I'm having difficulty interpreting the
    > > > results. I'm used to the MAX186 which has limited input range
    of
    > > > 4.096V and the 12 bit number returned is always the exact
    voltage
    > at
    > > > the input channel.
    > > >
    > > > The MAX1270 has selectable input ranges which can go as high as
    > +10V.
    > > > It's still however only 12 bits. For example when selecting the
    0
    > to
    > > > +10V range, 10V comes in as 111111111111. Still 4096 in base 10.
    > > >
    > > > Perhaps I'm not understanding the data encoding that's being
    > used. I
    > > > was under the impression that this device would automatically
    > handle
    > > > this. How do I get the Stamp to display the proper voltage on
    the
    > > > DEBUG terminal when using these extended ranges? Thanks for any
    > help.
    > > >
    > > > -Dave
    > > >
    > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-05 06:00
    Good grief that was easy!! I'm almost embarrased. I must say I'm
    thoroughly impressed.

    value = value */ 625

    This one extra line of code was all it took and the results are very
    accurate even for the approximation. Thanks all, and special thanks
    to Tracy Allen's website explaining the use of these operators in
    detail. Best regards everyone!!

    -Dave

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
    wrote:
    > Engineers have done fractional math without FP routines for a very
    long
    > time. The Stamp, in fact, has two operators that allow one to
    multiply
    > by a fractional value: the */ operator and the ** operator. Yes,
    the
    > results are integers, but that can be overcome as well.
    >
    > Let me correct my suggestion: Look a the StampPLC "template" code.
    > Also, the January issue of Nuts & Volts magazine has an article
    > explaining that code and the Javelin version as well.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
    > -- Dallas Office
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: nuclearspin2000 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:nuclearspin2000@y...]
    > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:18 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: MAX 1270 A to D chip
    >
    >
    > Hi Jonathan,
    >
    > The math is easy enough but unfortunately it requires floating
    point
    > math as far as I can tell which Stamps don't do. I'm still scouring
    > through the Stamp PLC manual that Jon suggested trying to find out
    > exactly what parallax is doing.
    >
    > -Dave
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan Peakall"
    > <jpeakall@p...> wrote:
    > > Dave,
    > >
    > > I *think* that is how it should work. The extended range allows
    > higher
    > > inputs, but it doesn't change the bits, so it will always be a
    > number
    > > between 0-4096.
    > >
    > > I don't have a data sheet for that chip, but does it allow a Vref
    > greater
    > > than 5V? If not, you will need to do math to figure the higher
    > voltage.
    > >
    > > Jonathan
    > >
    > > www.madlabs.info
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: "nuclearspin2000" <nuclearspin2000@y...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:12 PM
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] MAX 1270 A to D chip
    > >
    > >
    > > > Hi All,
    > > >
    > > > I recently got a Maxim MAX1270 A to D chip and have interfaced
    it
    > > > with my BS2SX. However I'm having difficulty interpreting the
    > > > results. I'm used to the MAX186 which has limited input range
    of
    > > > 4.096V and the 12 bit number returned is always the exact
    voltage
    > at
    > > > the input channel.
    > > >
    > > > The MAX1270 has selectable input ranges which can go as high as
    > +10V.
    > > > It's still however only 12 bits. For example when selecting the
    0
    > to
    > > > +10V range, 10V comes in as 111111111111. Still 4096 in base 10.
    > > >
    > > > Perhaps I'm not understanding the data encoding that's being
    > used. I
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2004-01-06 02:42
    pbasic also has the modulus operator, allowing you to
    kludge together a decimal representation of your
    value.


    --- Jon Williams <jwilliams@p...> wrote:
    > Engineers have done fractional math without FP
    > routines for a very long
    > time. The Stamp, in fact, has two operators that
    > allow one to multiply
    > by a fractional value: the */ operator and the **
    > operator. Yes, the
    > results are integers, but that can be overcome as
    > well.


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