Suggestions Wanted: Stamp Control of a Drill
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Hi Everyone!
Built a gadget that I use a lot. It is essentially a linear
actuator. It is about 70 inches long.
It parts include: a long bolt, a nut attached to a carriage and a
drill to turn the bolt.
The drill turns the bolt which moves the carriage to the desired
position. It is currently a manual process. I wish to automate it
with a Stamp.
The drill is just a heavy duty a/c drill. It is a little beafier
than what most guys would have in their garage. A smaller one could
be used.
Would like suggestions on how to handle the switches for the drill.
Should I hack the drill? Or, put components on the outside to
manipulate the current switches.
Or, should I forget the drill and go directly to an A/C or DC motor?
The nice thing about the drill is that it is trivial to connect to
the 3/8" bolt.
I have tried an inexpensive ceiling fan motor. It just didn't have
the power or speed that I needed.
Your thoughts please.
Thanks!
Take care,
Frank
Built a gadget that I use a lot. It is essentially a linear
actuator. It is about 70 inches long.
It parts include: a long bolt, a nut attached to a carriage and a
drill to turn the bolt.
The drill turns the bolt which moves the carriage to the desired
position. It is currently a manual process. I wish to automate it
with a Stamp.
The drill is just a heavy duty a/c drill. It is a little beafier
than what most guys would have in their garage. A smaller one could
be used.
Would like suggestions on how to handle the switches for the drill.
Should I hack the drill? Or, put components on the outside to
manipulate the current switches.
Or, should I forget the drill and go directly to an A/C or DC motor?
The nice thing about the drill is that it is trivial to connect to
the 3/8" bolt.
I have tried an inexpensive ceiling fan motor. It just didn't have
the power or speed that I needed.
Your thoughts please.
Thanks!
Take care,
Frank
Comments
just the drill.
I like the idea of a motor (stepper for location?) tied to the
stamp....might seem a bit better.
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Hi Everyone!
Built a gadget that I use a lot. It is essentially a linear
actuator. It is about 70 inches long.
It parts include: a long bolt, a nut attached to a carriage and a
drill to turn the bolt.
The drill turns the bolt which moves the carriage to the desired
position. It is currently a manual process. I wish to automate it
with a Stamp.
The drill is just a heavy duty a/c drill. It is a little beafier
than what most guys would have in their garage. A smaller one could
be used.
Would like suggestions on how to handle the switches for the drill.
Should I hack the drill? Or, put components on the outside to
manipulate the current switches.
Or, should I forget the drill and go directly to an A/C or DC motor?
The nice thing about the drill is that it is trivial to connect to
the 3/8" bolt.
I have tried an inexpensive ceiling fan motor. It just didn't have
the power or speed that I needed.
Your thoughts please.
Thanks!
Take care,
Frank
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You need to give more information on your gadget. Do yo u need to stop it at
a certain position, or just go to the end and stop?
Do you need to vary the travel speed or just let it rip wide open?
If you are using this to open a window or door, then turn on the drill with a
solid state relay, or mechanical relay and drive it until the nut trips a
limit switch. You may need another relay to reverse the drill to close the door.
Tell us more about what you want to do.
Alan Bradford
Plasma Technologies
Hi Everyone!
Built a gadget that I use a lot. It is essentially a linear
actuator. It is about 70 inches long.
It parts include: a long bolt, a nut attached to a carriage and a
drill to turn the bolt.
The drill turns the bolt which moves the carriage to the desired
position. It is currently a manual process. I wish to automate it
with a Stamp.
The drill is just a heavy duty a/c drill. It is a little beafier
than what most guys would have in their garage. A smaller one could
be used.
Would like suggestions on how to handle the switches for the drill.
Should I hack the drill? Or, put components on the outside to
manipulate the current switches.
Or, should I forget the drill and go directly to an A/C or DC motor?
The nice thing about the drill is that it is trivial to connect to
the 3/8" bolt.
I have tried an inexpensive ceiling fan motor. It just didn't have
the power or speed that I needed.
Your thoughts please.
Thanks!
Take care,
Frank
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nut slides up and down. If you are looking for accurate control I
would suggest you grab hold of a stepper motor and attach the bolt
to it. You can go about this several ways the most ideal would be
drilling a small hole in the base of the bolt to accomodate the
motor shaft, a small screw can be used to secure it, but to do this
you will have to be precise in your drilling. Anyway back to the
main idea, attach a stepper motor to the shaft depending on the
specs you can get away with using a ULN2003 to drive it or if you
need more power try something like the L293D or L298 to drive it.
Alternatively you can adopt a feedback system to sense the position.
One such way of doing this is to have a small wheel with slits in
it. Using a photo-interrupter you can sense how much the shaft has
turned since each slit in the wheel corresponds to a certain amount
of travel. For this you may want to adopt a geared AC or DC motor
depending on your preference.
Im not sure if I have been clear enough but let me know I can
probably draw up a diagram on how you would go about doing this.
Some cheap motors are availible from oatleyelectronics
http://www.oatleyelectronics.com/motors.html
(No Its not my shop and Its only a suggestion!)
The M30 AC MOTOR may suit your purpose if you dont need speed.
Arridh
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "franksmith512"
<franksmith512@y...> wrote:
> Hi Everyone!
>
> Built a gadget that I use a lot. It is essentially a linear
> actuator. It is about 70 inches long.
>
> It parts include: a long bolt, a nut attached to a carriage and a
> drill to turn the bolt.
>
> The drill turns the bolt which moves the carriage to the desired
> position. It is currently a manual process. I wish to automate
it
> with a Stamp.
>
> The drill is just a heavy duty a/c drill. It is a little beafier
> than what most guys would have in their garage. A smaller one
could
> be used.
>
> Would like suggestions on how to handle the switches for the
drill.
> Should I hack the drill? Or, put components on the outside to
> manipulate the current switches.
>
> Or, should I forget the drill and go directly to an A/C or DC
motor?
> The nice thing about the drill is that it is trivial to connect to
> the 3/8" bolt.
>
> I have tried an inexpensive ceiling fan motor. It just didn't
have
> the power or speed that I needed.
>
> Your thoughts please.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Take care,
> Frank
One way would be to use a relay. You could wire it to the plug, and leave
the stock switch in place, just tape it down. If the drill is never to be
used as a drill again, I would go ahead and remove the switch and again use
a relay to turn it on and off.
As to other motors, All Electronics usually has a good assortment of gear
motors. As you say though, you will need to couple it to the 3/8" bolt. If
the drill works for you, I would stick with it. If it is too big, or
otherwise less than ideal, a gear motor is pretty easy to couple to a 3/8"
bolt. I use a drill to wind Tesla coils with, for the same reason as you do,
it is easy to attach and I use it for other things most the time.
Jonathan
www.madlabs.info
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From: "franksmith512" <franksmith512@y...>
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:34 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Suggestions Wanted: Stamp Control of a Drill
> Hi Everyone!
>
> Built a gadget that I use a lot. It is essentially a linear
> actuator. It is about 70 inches long.
>
> It parts include: a long bolt, a nut attached to a carriage and a
> drill to turn the bolt.
>
> The drill turns the bolt which moves the carriage to the desired
> position. It is currently a manual process. I wish to automate it
> with a Stamp.
>
> The drill is just a heavy duty a/c drill. It is a little beafier
> than what most guys would have in their garage. A smaller one could
> be used.
>
> Would like suggestions on how to handle the switches for the drill.
> Should I hack the drill? Or, put components on the outside to
> manipulate the current switches.
>
> Or, should I forget the drill and go directly to an A/C or DC motor?
> The nice thing about the drill is that it is trivial to connect to
> the 3/8" bolt.
>
> I have tried an inexpensive ceiling fan motor. It just didn't have
> the power or speed that I needed.
>
> Your thoughts please.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Take care,
> Frank
>
>
>
>
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As far as easy connections, you can get chucks cheaply (relatively) from MSC
or probably McMaster Carr.
Note: As I remember it, a drill is a universal ac dc motor. So, if you
were to rectify the ac and feed the motor with dc of different polarities to
make it work. You could use relays on the output of the bs2 for this. Then
you wouldn't have to hack the drill. Folks, correct me if they have
something new that I don't know about. I want to know<G>!
I have used drills in stationary applications before. Hose clamped
them to a table top or milk crate<G>.
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:34 PM
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Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Suggestions Wanted: Stamp Control of a Drill
Hi Everyone!
Built a gadget that I use a lot. It is essentially a linear
actuator. It is about 70 inches long.
It parts include: a long bolt, a nut attached to a carriage and a
drill to turn the bolt.
The drill turns the bolt which moves the carriage to the desired
position. It is currently a manual process. I wish to automate it
with a Stamp.
The drill is just a heavy duty a/c drill. It is a little beafier
than what most guys would have in their garage. A smaller one could
be used.
Would like suggestions on how to handle the switches for the drill.
Should I hack the drill? Or, put components on the outside to
manipulate the current switches.
Or, should I forget the drill and go directly to an A/C or DC motor?
The nice thing about the drill is that it is trivial to connect to
the 3/8" bolt.
I have tried an inexpensive ceiling fan motor. It just didn't have
the power or speed that I needed.
Your thoughts please.
Thanks!
Take care,
Frank
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state relay such as a crydon D1210 and just lock the trigger on the drill to
the on position. This would switch the AC on and off as necessary.
jim
http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/
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From: Grover Richardson [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=a7DjzQLdV0baOE1V6nqnShZvKeqmKLYxiESKNkzb8oaQMdxxPiO20YnsJvPDuHWRS_q8kxFpASS1_U3Tnf5hGxWfib71zlo]grover.richardson@g...[/url
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I would hack the drill myself<G>.
As far as easy connections, you can get chucks cheaply (relatively) from MSC
or probably McMaster Carr.
Note: As I remember it, a drill is a universal ac dc motor. So, if you
were to rectify the ac and feed the motor with dc of different polarities to
make it work. You could use relays on the output of the bs2 for this. Then
you wouldn't have to hack the drill. Folks, correct me if they have
something new that I don't know about. I want to know<G>!
I have used drills in stationary applications before. Hose clamped
them to a table top or milk crate<G>.
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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:34 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Suggestions Wanted: Stamp Control of a Drill
Hi Everyone!
Built a gadget that I use a lot. It is essentially a linear
actuator. It is about 70 inches long.
It parts include: a long bolt, a nut attached to a carriage and a
drill to turn the bolt.
The drill turns the bolt which moves the carriage to the desired
position. It is currently a manual process. I wish to automate it
with a Stamp.
The drill is just a heavy duty a/c drill. It is a little beafier
than what most guys would have in their garage. A smaller one could
be used.
Would like suggestions on how to handle the switches for the drill.
Should I hack the drill? Or, put components on the outside to
manipulate the current switches.
Or, should I forget the drill and go directly to an A/C or DC motor?
The nice thing about the drill is that it is trivial to connect to
the 3/8" bolt.
I have tried an inexpensive ceiling fan motor. It just didn't have
the power or speed that I needed.
Your thoughts please.
Thanks!
Take care,
Frank
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Just am not sure if I am going to need variable speed of the trigger
built into the drill. The drill is being used for positioning. Am
guessing the Stamp is amply fast to get small increments.
Also, I need forward and reverse. Thought about using a servo and
connecting just like in an RC plane.
Take care,
Frank
Could you, or anyone else out there, give a part number for the
transistor. Am just a software guy. There is a really common NPN I
believe, but can't think of the part #.
Thanks,
Frank
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Forkin" <jjf@p...> wrote:
> I would just use a transistor on the output of a stamp and control
a solid
> state relay such as a crydon D1210 and just lock the trigger on the
drill to
> the on position. This would switch the AC on and off as necessary.
> jim
> http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/
>
>
Really like your idea. Yes, I did understand it.
That is a very simple way to handle the coupling of the stepper motor
and the bolt.
My feedback loop is a digital measuring tape.
Thanks so much,
Frank
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "arridh_shashank"
<arridh_shashank@y...> wrote:
> If I have understood you right you are rotating the bolt so that
the
> nut slides up and down. If you are looking for accurate control I
> would suggest you grab hold of a stepper motor and attach the bolt
> to it. You can go about this several ways the most ideal would be
> drilling a small hole in the base of the bolt to accomodate the
> motor shaft, a small screw can be used to secure it, but to do this
> you will have to be precise in your drilling. Anyway back to the
> main idea, attach a stepper motor to the shaft depending on the
> specs you can get away with using a ULN2003 to drive it or if you
> need more power try something like the L293D or L298 to drive it.
> Alternatively you can adopt a feedback system to sense the
position.
> One such way of doing this is to have a small wheel with slits in
> it. Using a photo-interrupter you can sense how much the shaft has
> turned since each slit in the wheel corresponds to a certain amount
> of travel. For this you may want to adopt a geared AC or DC motor
> depending on your preference.
>
> Im not sure if I have been clear enough but let me know I can
> probably draw up a diagram on how you would go about doing this.
>
> Some cheap motors are availible from oatleyelectronics
> http://www.oatleyelectronics.com/motors.html
> (No Its not my shop and Its only a suggestion!)
>
> The M30 AC MOTOR may suit your purpose if you dont need speed.
>
> Arridh
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "franksmith512"
> <franksmith512@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone!
> >
> > Built a gadget that I use a lot. It is essentially a linear
> > actuator. It is about 70 inches long.
> >
> > It parts include: a long bolt, a nut attached to a carriage and a
> > drill to turn the bolt.
> >
> > The drill turns the bolt which moves the carriage to the desired
> > position. It is currently a manual process. I wish to automate
> it
> > with a Stamp.
> >
> > The drill is just a heavy duty a/c drill. It is a little beafier
> > than what most guys would have in their garage. A smaller one
> could
> > be used.
> >
> > Would like suggestions on how to handle the switches for the
> drill.
> > Should I hack the drill? Or, put components on the outside to
> > manipulate the current switches.
> >
> > Or, should I forget the drill and go directly to an A/C or DC
> motor?
> > The nice thing about the drill is that it is trivial to connect
to
> > the 3/8" bolt.
> >
> > I have tried an inexpensive ceiling fan motor. It just didn't
> have
> > the power or speed that I needed.
> >
> > Your thoughts please.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Take care,
> > Frank
Everyone has been great! Think most of the bases are covered to get
me started. I am sure to have more questions after I start
building. Will be much more specific then.
Take care,
Bruce
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, plasmastamp@a... wrote:
> Hi Frank,
> You need to give more information on your gadget. Do yo u need to
stop it at
> a certain position, or just go to the end and stop?
>
> Do you need to vary the travel speed or just let it rip wide open?
>
> If you are using this to open a window or door, then turn on the
drill with a
> solid state relay, or mechanical relay and drive it until the nut
trips a
> limit switch. You may need another relay to reverse the drill to
close the door.
>
> Tell us more about what you want to do.
>
> Alan Bradford
> Plasma Technologies
> Hi Everyone!
>
> Built a gadget that I use a lot. It is essentially a linear
> actuator. It is about 70 inches long.
>
> It parts include: a long bolt, a nut attached to a carriage and a
> drill to turn the bolt.
>
> The drill turns the bolt which moves the carriage to the desired
> position. It is currently a manual process. I wish to automate it
> with a Stamp.
>
> The drill is just a heavy duty a/c drill. It is a little beafier
> than what most guys would have in their garage. A smaller one
could
> be used.
>
> Would like suggestions on how to handle the switches for the
drill.
> Should I hack the drill? Or, put components on the outside to
> manipulate the current switches.
>
> Or, should I forget the drill and go directly to an A/C or DC
motor?
> The nice thing about the drill is that it is trivial to connect to
> the 3/8" bolt.
>
> I have tried an inexpensive ceiling fan motor. It just didn't have
> the power or speed that I needed.
>
> Your thoughts please.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Take care,
> Frank
>
>
> [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
jim
http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/
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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:19 PM
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Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Suggestions Wanted: Stamp Control of a Drill
Jim,
Could you, or anyone else out there, give a part number for the
transistor. Am just a software guy. There is a really common NPN I
believe, but can't think of the part #.
Thanks,
Frank
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Forkin" <jjf@p...> wrote:
> I would just use a transistor on the output of a stamp and control
a solid
> state relay such as a crydon D1210 and just lock the trigger on the
drill to
> the on position. This would switch the AC on and off as necessary.
> jim
> http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/
>
>
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drill variable speed?
>>> jjf@p... 12/12/03 12:02PM >>>
check out my web site for schematics that specify parts numbers and values.
jim
http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/
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To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Suggestions Wanted: Stamp Control of a Drill
Jim,
Could you, or anyone else out there, give a part number for the
transistor. Am just a software guy. There is a really common NPN I
believe, but can't think of the part #.
Thanks,
Frank
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Forkin" <jjf@p...> wrote:
> I would just use a transistor on the output of a stamp and control
a solid
> state relay such as a crydon D1210 and just lock the trigger on the
drill to
> the on position. This would switch the AC on and off as necessary.
> jim
> http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/
>
>
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