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Quick Question about a DC Motor

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-10-21 17:47 in General Discussion
If you reverse the leads on the motor DC motors will reverse direction. This
can be done with a relay or a group of transistors.

Jim Johannsen
jim@j...

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I'm a beginner with motors, and I just need to produce a simple forward and
backward rotation; I don't care about accuracy. I understand that a DC motor
is
simpler to use than a Stepper Motor? And if that's true, my next question
is:
Is it possible to rotate a DC motor in the backward direction?


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-10-20 01:18
    I'm a beginner with motors, and I just need to produce a simple forward and
    backward rotation; I don't care about accuracy. I understand that a DC motor is
    simpler to use than a Stepper Motor? And if that's true, my next question is:
    Is it possible to rotate a DC motor in the backward direction?


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-10-20 03:18
    As Jim mentioned, reversing the poarity of the DC motor will reverse the
    direction. One of many ways to do this is with a double pole double throw relay.

    If you choose this method, be sure to include a diode across the relay coil.
    The diode is connected cathode (end with a line) to the positive side of the
    relay coil.

    Ken
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    In a message dated 10/19/2003 5:19:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    MP1428@a... writes:
    I'm a beginner with motors, and I just need to produce a simple forward and
    backward rotation; I don't care about accuracy. I understand that a DC motor
    is
    simpler to use than a Stepper Motor? And if that's true, my next question is:
    Is it possible to rotate a DC motor in the backward direction?


    [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-10-20 03:42
    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, Jim Johannsen <jim@j...> wrote:
    > If you reverse the leads on the motor DC motors will reverse
    direction. This
    > can be done with a relay or a group of transistors.
    >
    > Jim Johannsen
    > jim@j...



    The common way is an H-Bridge. very simple, uses 4 main transistors,
    2 pnp, 2 npn.

    although an H-Bridge in not inherently a speed control, you can
    puslse the transistors to get a sorta speed control.

    Google H-bridge.

    the more power you want to use, the more protection you should think
    of adding.

    The only problem with relays is that the relays are mechanical and
    may fail. but the trade off for a little less silicon is a little
    more space and money. (ie: resistors are more $$ and bigger)


    Dave




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-10-20 05:29
    Dave is correct stating "The common way is an H-Bridge. very simple, uses 4
    main transistors,
    2 pnp, 2 npn."


    But if you are new to electronics a relay may be your best bet at this time,
    and if the relay fails (which is very rare) the motor will simply turn only
    one direction depending on the relay failure.

    An "home brew" H bridge if not properly designed or controlled will ruin your
    transistors if you get the wrong pair turned on at the same time, however,
    with some logic gates to control the H bridge, this should never happen.
    If you use a LMD18200 from National, you should not have any worries and is a
    better solution than a relay, but a little pricey.
    http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LMD18200.pdf

    Also check out http://www.dprg.org/tutorials/1998-04a/





    although an H-Bridge in not inherently a speed control, you can
    puslse the transistors to get a sorta speed control.

    Google H-bridge.

    the more power you want to use, the more protection you should think
    of adding.

    The only problem with relays is that the relays are mechanical and
    may fail. but the trade off for a little less silicon is a little
    more space and money. (ie: resistors are more $$ and bigger)


    Dave


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-10-20 14:13
    yes, just reverse the motor connections and the motor will run in the
    opposite direction. For schematics to control these with a stamp check out
    http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/
    jim

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    I'm a beginner with motors, and I just need to produce a simple forward and
    backward rotation; I don't care about accuracy. I understand that a DC motor
    is
    simpler to use than a Stepper Motor? And if that's true, my next question
    is:
    Is it possible to rotate a DC motor in the backward direction?


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-10-21 02:07
    yes, DC motor are simpler then steppers and yes you
    can rotate DC motor backward.

    a very easy way is using a DPDT switch see the
    attachment

    oscar
    panama city, rep. of panama

    --- MP1428@a... escribi
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-10-21 17:47
    check out this web site for circuits to do this under stamp control.
    jim http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/


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    yes, DC motor are simpler then steppers and yes you
    can rotate DC motor backward.

    a very easy way is using a DPDT switch see the
    attachment

    oscar
    panama city, rep. of panama

    --- MP1428@a... escribi
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