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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-08-03 17:29 in General Discussion
Hi out there-
I am interested in utilizing a Dallas Semiconductor 1-wire (an i-button,
actually) ADD-
ONLY memory in a project that I am working on.
The application note indicates that to 'set' the information into the EEPROM,
a 12-
volt, 10 ma pulse must be generated for about 500 microseconds on the data line
of
the memory. I know that this can be done using a DC to DC converter, but I
remember that, for low current applications, one can put together a rather
simple
voltage doubler circuit. Is anybody familiar with that? Better yet, is anyone
familiar
with the circuit that handles 1-wire ADD-ONLY EEPROMS? Or can someone refer me
to
an app note that covers the hardware side of the 1-wire EEPROMS?
Thanks in advance,
-Mark

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-08-02 02:29
    Hi out there-
    I am interested in utilizing a Dallas Semiconductor 1-wire (an i-button,
    actually) ADD-
    ONLY memory in a project that I am working on.
    The application note indicates that to 'set' the information into the EEPROM,
    a 12-
    volt, 10 ma pulse must be generated for about 500 microseconds on the data line
    of
    the memory. I know that this can be done using a DC to DC converter, but I
    remember that, for low current applications, one can put together a rather
    simple
    voltage doubler circuit. Is anybody familiar with that? Better yet, is anyone
    familiar
    with the circuit that handles 1-wire ADD-ONLY EEPROMS? Or can someone refer me
    to
    an app note that covers the hardware side of the 1-wire EEPROMS?
    Thanks in advance,
    -Mark
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-08-02 11:21
    AppNote 74 from Maxim, page 17, shows a diagram named 'TTL R/W all
    circuit' for programming the iButtom Add-Only EPROM. link:
    http://pdfserv.maxim-ic.com/an/en/app74.pdf

    SWFitz

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "mmarpet" <marpetm@s...> wrote:
    > Hi out there-
    > I am interested in utilizing a Dallas Semiconductor 1-wire (an
    i-button, actually) ADD-
    > ONLY memory in a project that I am working on.
    > The application note indicates that to 'set' the information into
    the EEPROM, a 12-
    > volt, 10 ma pulse must be generated for about 500 microseconds on
    the data line of
    > the memory. I know that this can be done using a DC to DC converter,
    but I
    > remember that, for low current applications, one can put together a
    rather simple
    > voltage doubler circuit. Is anybody familiar with that? Better yet,
    is anyone familiar
    > with the circuit that handles 1-wire ADD-ONLY EEPROMS? Or can
    someone refer me to
    > an app note that covers the hardware side of the 1-wire EEPROMS?
    > Thanks in advance,
    > -Mark
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-08-02 11:34
    Do you absolutely have to use the add-only eprom? An eeprom would
    simplify thing tremendously. See the BS2p demo board and the BS2p
    plus pack documentation - on the parallax site - for wiring and
    program examples using the iButton EEPROM.

    SWFitz

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "mmarpet" <marpetm@s...> wrote:
    > Hi out there-
    > I am interested in utilizing a Dallas Semiconductor 1-wire (an
    i-button, actually) ADD-
    > ONLY memory in a project that I am working on.
    > The application note indicates that to 'set' the information into
    the EEPROM, a 12-
    > volt, 10 ma pulse must be generated for about 500 microseconds on
    the data line of
    > the memory. I know that this can be done using a DC to DC converter,
    but I
    > remember that, for low current applications, one can put together a
    rather simple
    > voltage doubler circuit. Is anybody familiar with that? Better yet,
    is anyone familiar
    > with the circuit that handles 1-wire ADD-ONLY EEPROMS? Or can
    someone refer me to
    > an app note that covers the hardware side of the 1-wire EEPROMS?
    > Thanks in advance,
    > -Mark
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-08-02 16:05
    SWF-
    I do indeed need an ADD-ONLY EPROM (actually, multiple ADD-ONLYs) , as
    the application involves audit integrity, and I can't see how to set up
    another device that is simply unalterable. Thanks for the app note 74
    reference. I'll study it and see if I can make heads or tails out of it.
    -MIM

    On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 06:34 AM, swfitz wrote:

    > Do you absolutely have to use the add-only eprom? An eeprom would
    > simplify thing tremendously. See the BS2p demo board and the BS2p
    > plus pack documentation - on the parallax site - for wiring and
    > program examples using the iButton EEPROM.
    >
    > SWFitz
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "mmarpet" <marpetm@s...> wrote:
    >> Hi out there-
    >> I am interested in utilizing a Dallas Semiconductor 1-wire (an
    > i-button, actually) ADD-
    >> ONLY memory in a project that I am working on.
    >> The application note indicates that to 'set' the information into
    > the EEPROM, a 12-
    >> volt, 10 ma pulse must be generated for about 500 microseconds on
    > the data line of
    >> the memory. I know that this can be done using a DC to DC converter,
    > but I
    >> remember that, for low current applications, one can put together a
    > rather simple
    >> voltage doubler circuit. Is anybody familiar with that? Better yet,
    > is anyone familiar
    >> with the circuit that handles 1-wire ADD-ONLY EEPROMS? Or can
    > someone refer me to
    >> an app note that covers the hardware side of the 1-wire EEPROMS?
    >> Thanks in advance,
    >> -Mark
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-08-03 11:14
    In that case check out:
    http://dbserv.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/1736/ln/en

    The link above is for a voltage doubler IC with 125 ma. output current.
    For lower currents look at the MAX1719/MAX1720/MAX1721.
    These devices are commonly called 'charge pumps', and there are many
    configurations to choose from.

    Also, for the programming circuitry look at:
    http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/2923

    This link is for a Serial to 1-wire driver IC that will apply the 12v
    programming voltage for you - using serial commands, of course. It
    handles all 1-wire devices.

    SWFitz

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, Mark Marpet <marpetm@s...> wrote:
    > SWF-
    > I do indeed need an ADD-ONLY EPROM (actually, multiple ADD-ONLYs) , as
    > the application involves audit integrity, and I can't see how to set up
    > another device that is simply unalterable. Thanks for the app note 74
    > reference. I'll study it and see if I can make heads or tails out of it.
    > -MIM
    >
    > On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 06:34 AM, swfitz wrote:
    >
    > > Do you absolutely have to use the add-only eprom? An eeprom would
    > > simplify thing tremendously. See the BS2p demo board and the BS2p
    > > plus pack documentation - on the parallax site - for wiring and
    > > program examples using the iButton EEPROM.
    > >
    > > SWFitz
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "mmarpet" <marpetm@s...> wrote:
    > >> Hi out there-
    > >> I am interested in utilizing a Dallas Semiconductor 1-wire (an
    > > i-button, actually) ADD-
    > >> ONLY memory in a project that I am working on.
    > >> The application note indicates that to 'set' the information into
    > > the EEPROM, a 12-
    > >> volt, 10 ma pulse must be generated for about 500 microseconds on
    > > the data line of
    > >> the memory. I know that this can be done using a DC to DC converter,
    > > but I
    > >> remember that, for low current applications, one can put together a
    > > rather simple
    > >> voltage doubler circuit. Is anybody familiar with that? Better yet,
    > > is anyone familiar
    > >> with the circuit that handles 1-wire ADD-ONLY EEPROMS? Or can
    > > someone refer me to
    > >> an app note that covers the hardware side of the 1-wire EEPROMS?
    > >> Thanks in advance,
    > >> -Mark
    > >
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-08-03 11:43
    Just realized that the Maxim ICs I mentioned in the last message may
    not provide the voltage you need. Look at the ICL7660 by Intersil.

    http://www.intersil.com/design/parametric/deviceinfo.asp?pn=ICL7660

    This device has an input volatge range of 1.5V to 10V and can double
    up to 18V. Has a max output current of 45ma. Can be cascaded for
    higher output voltages from low input voltages. Circuit examples in
    the datasheet.


    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, Mark Marpet <marpetm@s...> wrote:
    > SWF-
    > I do indeed need an ADD-ONLY EPROM (actually, multiple ADD-ONLYs) , as
    > the application involves audit integrity, and I can't see how to set up
    > another device that is simply unalterable. Thanks for the app note 74
    > reference. I'll study it and see if I can make heads or tails out of it.
    > -MIM
    >
    > On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 06:34 AM, swfitz wrote:
    >
    > > Do you absolutely have to use the add-only eprom? An eeprom would
    > > simplify thing tremendously. See the BS2p demo board and the BS2p
    > > plus pack documentation - on the parallax site - for wiring and
    > > program examples using the iButton EEPROM.
    > >
    > > SWFitz
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "mmarpet" <marpetm@s...> wrote:
    > >> Hi out there-
    > >> I am interested in utilizing a Dallas Semiconductor 1-wire (an
    > > i-button, actually) ADD-
    > >> ONLY memory in a project that I am working on.
    > >> The application note indicates that to 'set' the information into
    > > the EEPROM, a 12-
    > >> volt, 10 ma pulse must be generated for about 500 microseconds on
    > > the data line of
    > >> the memory. I know that this can be done using a DC to DC converter,
    > > but I
    > >> remember that, for low current applications, one can put together a
    > > rather simple
    > >> voltage doubler circuit. Is anybody familiar with that? Better yet,
    > > is anyone familiar
    > >> with the circuit that handles 1-wire ADD-ONLY EEPROMS? Or can
    > > someone refer me to
    > >> an app note that covers the hardware side of the 1-wire EEPROMS?
    > >> Thanks in advance,
    > >> -Mark
    > >
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-08-03 17:29
    The IC recommended in APP Note 74 (and thanks again for that reference)
    is The Linear Technology 1109, which can be seen at

    http://www.linear.com/prod/datasheet.html?datasheet=237




    On Sunday, August 3, 2003, at 06:43 AM, swfitz wrote:

    > Just realized that the Maxim ICs I mentioned in the last message may
    > not provide the voltage you need. Look at the ICL7660 by Intersil.
    >
    > http://www.intersil.com/design/parametric/deviceinfo.asp?pn=ICL7660
    >
    > This device has an input volatge range of 1.5V to 10V and can double
    > up to 18V. Has a max output current of 45ma. Can be cascaded for
    > higher output voltages from low input voltages. Circuit examples in
    > the datasheet.
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, Mark Marpet <marpetm@s...> wrote:
    >> SWF-
    >> I do indeed need an ADD-ONLY EPROM (actually, multiple ADD-ONLYs) , as
    >> the application involves audit integrity, and I can't see how to set
    >> up
    >> another device that is simply unalterable. Thanks for the app note 74
    >> reference. I'll study it and see if I can make heads or tails out of
    >> it.
    >> -MIM
    >>
    >> On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 06:34 AM, swfitz wrote:
    >>
    >>> Do you absolutely have to use the add-only eprom? An eeprom would
    >>> simplify thing tremendously. See the BS2p demo board and the BS2p
    >>> plus pack documentation - on the parallax site - for wiring and
    >>> program examples using the iButton EEPROM.
    >>>
    >>> SWFitz
    >>>
    >>> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "mmarpet" <marpetm@s...> wrote:
    >>>> Hi out there-
    >>>> I am interested in utilizing a Dallas Semiconductor 1-wire (an
    >>> i-button, actually) ADD-
    >>>> ONLY memory in a project that I am working on.
    >>>> The application note indicates that to 'set' the information into
    >>> the EEPROM, a 12-
    >>>> volt, 10 ma pulse must be generated for about 500 microseconds on
    >>> the data line of
    >>>> the memory. I know that this can be done using a DC to DC converter,
    >>> but I
    >>>> remember that, for low current applications, one can put together a
    >>> rather simple
    >>>> voltage doubler circuit. Is anybody familiar with that? Better yet,
    >>> is anyone familiar
    >>>> with the circuit that handles 1-wire ADD-ONLY EEPROMS? Or can
    >>> someone refer me to
    >>>> an app note that covers the hardware side of the 1-wire EEPROMS?
    >>>> Thanks in advance,
    >>>> -Mark
    >>>
    >>>
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