recovering BS2 program
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I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it is still on the
STAMP.
Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that the comments etc will lost
but can I get the
basic code back out? HELP !!
STAMP.
Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that the comments etc will lost
but can I get the
basic code back out? HELP !!
Comments
the EEPROM to duplicate it, but there is no "decompiler" for PBASIC once
it is downloaded to the Stamp. Don't kick yourself, we've all been
through this.
-- Jon Williams
-- Parallax
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I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it is still on
the STAMP. Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that the
comments etc will lost but can I get the
basic code back out? HELP !!
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http://home.earthlink.net/~parkiss/recovery.txt
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>
> I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it
> is still on the STAMP. Is there anyway to recover the
> original. I know that the comments etc will lost but can I get the
> basic code back out? HELP !!
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that it faded away? I use the STAMP for a solar panel controller and
it hasn't been powered for almost a year. I have taken out the STAMP 2
by itself and it just looks like it is not programmed at all. Is there
any way to determine if the prgram has gone..?
I was hoping not to have to re-write all the code but it looks as
though I will have to do that..
Next...Is there test program that I can download that exercises
the STAMP so I can be sure all functions are OK,.
I can write a simple prgram but I would like one that really checks it
and that means writing to all of the EEPROM etcetc.
Thanks ron
-- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
wrote:
> Sorry, no. I've heard of people going through the trouble to
desolder
> the EEPROM to duplicate it, but there is no "decompiler" for PBASIC
once
> it is downloaded to the Stamp. Don't kick yourself, we've all been
> through this.
>
> -- Jon Williams
> -- Parallax
>
>
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> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:44 AM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] recovering BS2 program
>
>
> I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it is still
on
> the STAMP. Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that the
> comments etc will lost but can I get the
> basic code back out? HELP !!
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likely that you wore it out. Stamps don't *look* any differt once
they're programmed versus not. If you program has any DEBUG statements
in it, you can tell the program is intact. Go into the compiler and
manually open a DEBUG window, then restart your Stamp. If you had DEBUG
message and the program is still there, you'll see them.
Just make sure you don't download _anything_ in an attempt to look for
your program -- that's a sure way to overwrite the program that may
still be there.
-- Jon Williams
-- Parallax
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From: rondoc69 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=yWop6UFeJJmCcu1KgFxuyg468HO-fu1ln_1_K2h5AP16f_cQO2msxO9FDw_n_6pIsQJn_nxOFRU]rdoctors@c...[/url
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To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
I think that the program is no longer in the EEPROM . Is it possible
that it faded away? I use the STAMP for a solar panel controller and
it hasn't been powered for almost a year. I have taken out the STAMP 2
by itself and it just looks like it is not programmed at all. Is there
any way to determine if the prgram has gone..?
I was hoping not to have to re-write all the code but it looks as
though I will have to do that..
Next...Is there test program that I can download that exercises the
STAMP so I can be sure all functions are OK,. I can write a simple
prgram but I would like one that really checks it
and that means writing to all of the EEPROM etcetc.
Thanks ron
-- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
wrote:
> Sorry, no. I've heard of people going through the trouble to
desolder
> the EEPROM to duplicate it, but there is no "decompiler" for PBASIC
once
> it is downloaded to the Stamp. Don't kick yourself, we've all been
> through this.
>
> -- Jon Williams
> -- Parallax
>
>
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> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:44 AM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] recovering BS2 program
>
>
> I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it is still
on
> the STAMP. Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that the
> comments etc will lost but can I get the basic code back out? HELP !!
>
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just a thought, if you happen to remember if you had any pins on the STAMP
as outputs that changed in some way, i.e., go high or low, try to put a
scope on the pins when you power up the STAMP. If you see some simple
changes in state, the program is probably still in there. I've done the
same thing, but I try to keep floppy's with all the programs before I
program the STAMPS. I think Jon's comments are the best, don't reprogram
the STAMP until you are completely sure it lost the program. Be VERY sure
mike m
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From: "rondoc69" <rdoctors@c...>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
> I think that the program is no longer in the EEPROM . Is it possible
> that it faded away? I use the STAMP for a solar panel controller and
> it hasn't been powered for almost a year. I have taken out the STAMP 2
> by itself and it just looks like it is not programmed at all. Is there
> any way to determine if the prgram has gone..?
> I was hoping not to have to re-write all the code but it looks as
> though I will have to do that..
> Next...Is there test program that I can download that exercises
> the STAMP so I can be sure all functions are OK,.
> I can write a simple prgram but I would like one that really checks it
> and that means writing to all of the EEPROM etcetc.
> Thanks ron
>
>
> -- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
> wrote:
> > Sorry, no. I've heard of people going through the trouble to
> desolder
> > the EEPROM to duplicate it, but there is no "decompiler" for PBASIC
> once
> > it is downloaded to the Stamp. Don't kick yourself, we've all been
> > through this.
> >
> > -- Jon Williams
> > -- Parallax
> >
> >
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> > From: rdoctors@c... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:44 AM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] recovering BS2 program
> >
> >
> > I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it is still
> on
> > the STAMP. Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that the
> > comments etc will lost but can I get the
> > basic code back out? HELP !!
> >
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out if it is "good" or not.
ron
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
wrote:
> Unless your program was constantly writing to the EEPROM, it's not
> likely that you wore it out. Stamps don't *look* any differt once
> they're programmed versus not. If you program has any DEBUG
statements
> in it, you can tell the program is intact. Go into the compiler and
> manually open a DEBUG window, then restart your Stamp. If you had
DEBUG
> message and the program is still there, you'll see them.
>
> Just make sure you don't download _anything_ in an attempt to look
for
> your program -- that's a sure way to overwrite the program that may
> still be there.
>
> -- Jon Williams
> -- Parallax
>
>
>
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> From: rondoc69 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:30 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
>
>
> I think that the program is no longer in the EEPROM . Is it possible
> that it faded away? I use the STAMP for a solar panel controller and
> it hasn't been powered for almost a year. I have taken out the STAMP
2
> by itself and it just looks like it is not programmed at all. Is
there
> any way to determine if the prgram has gone..?
> I was hoping not to have to re-write all the code but it looks as
> though I will have to do that..
> Next...Is there test program that I can download that exercises the
> STAMP so I can be sure all functions are OK,. I can write a simple
> prgram but I would like one that really checks it
> and that means writing to all of the EEPROM etcetc.
> Thanks ron
>
>
> -- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
> wrote:
> > Sorry, no. I've heard of people going through the trouble to
> desolder
> > the EEPROM to duplicate it, but there is no "decompiler" for
PBASIC
> once
> > it is downloaded to the Stamp. Don't kick yourself, we've all
been
> > through this.
> >
> > -- Jon Williams
> > -- Parallax
> >
> >
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> > From: rdoctors@c... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:44 AM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] recovering BS2 program
> >
> >
> > I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it is
still
> on
> > the STAMP. Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that
the
> > comments etc will lost but can I get the basic code back out? HELP
!!
> >
> >
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Because the pin needs to be an output to charge/discharge the RC ciruit,
then an input to monitor it.
Keep in mind that downloading any test code to your Stamp will overwrite
the program you're hoping is still there....
-- Jon Williams
-- Parallax
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From: rondoc69 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=Tn4tV0RxlebLeo305aVH5kpoLxTmHFar38wFfZu4ATjwMqqgol23Wlq7PSdikhjjTYQIFJ1raC0V5g]rdoctors@c...[/url
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OK, I give up what is the best way to test the STAMP? I need to find
out if it is "good" or not.
ron
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
wrote:
> Unless your program was constantly writing to the EEPROM, it's not
> likely that you wore it out. Stamps don't *look* any differt once
> they're programmed versus not. If you program has any DEBUG
statements
> in it, you can tell the program is intact. Go into the compiler and
> manually open a DEBUG window, then restart your Stamp. If you had
DEBUG
> message and the program is still there, you'll see them.
>
> Just make sure you don't download _anything_ in an attempt to look
for
> your program -- that's a sure way to overwrite the program that may
> still be there.
>
> -- Jon Williams
> -- Parallax
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: rondoc69 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:30 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
>
>
> I think that the program is no longer in the EEPROM . Is it possible
> that it faded away? I use the STAMP for a solar panel controller and
> it hasn't been powered for almost a year. I have taken out the STAMP
2
> by itself and it just looks like it is not programmed at all. Is
there
> any way to determine if the prgram has gone..?
> I was hoping not to have to re-write all the code but it looks as
> though I will have to do that..
> Next...Is there test program that I can download that exercises the
> STAMP so I can be sure all functions are OK,. I can write a simple
> prgram but I would like one that really checks it
> and that means writing to all of the EEPROM etcetc.
> Thanks ron
>
>
> -- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
> wrote:
> > Sorry, no. I've heard of people going through the trouble to
> desolder
> > the EEPROM to duplicate it, but there is no "decompiler" for
PBASIC
> once
> > it is downloaded to the Stamp. Don't kick yourself, we've all
been
> > through this.
> >
> > -- Jon Williams
> > -- Parallax
> >
> >
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> > From: rdoctors@c... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:44 AM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] recovering BS2 program
> >
> >
> > I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it is
still
> on
> > the STAMP. Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that
the
> > comments etc will lost but can I get the basic code back out? HELP
!!
> >
> >
> >
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the RCTIME prgm? where can I locate the prgm? Doe sit fo thru all the
PINS? FYI the STAMP did get very damp during the winterI wondered if
this somehow has damaged it.
I used to just ftp parallaxinc.com but there doesn't seem to be any
thing in /pub
Is there somewhere that has sample prgms etc.?
Ron
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
wrote:
> Internally, we us RCTIME and known RC values to test Stamp pins.
Why?
> Because the pin needs to be an output to charge/discharge the RC
ciruit,
> then an input to monitor it.
>
> Keep in mind that downloading any test code to your Stamp will
overwrite
> the program you're hoping is still there....
>
> -- Jon Williams
> -- Parallax
>
>
>
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> From: rondoc69 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:22 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
>
>
> OK, I give up what is the best way to test the STAMP? I need to find
> out if it is "good" or not.
> ron
>
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
> wrote:
> > Unless your program was constantly writing to the EEPROM, it's not
> > likely that you wore it out. Stamps don't *look* any differt once
> > they're programmed versus not. If you program has any DEBUG
> statements
> > in it, you can tell the program is intact. Go into the compiler
and
> > manually open a DEBUG window, then restart your Stamp. If you had
> DEBUG
> > message and the program is still there, you'll see them.
> >
> > Just make sure you don't download _anything_ in an attempt to look
> for
> > your program -- that's a sure way to overwrite the program that
may
> > still be there.
> >
> > -- Jon Williams
> > -- Parallax
> >
> >
> >
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> > From: rondoc69 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:30 PM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
> >
> >
> > I think that the program is no longer in the EEPROM . Is it
possible
> > that it faded away? I use the STAMP for a solar panel controller
and
> > it hasn't been powered for almost a year. I have taken out the
STAMP
> 2
> > by itself and it just looks like it is not programmed at all. Is
> there
> > any way to determine if the prgram has gone..?
> > I was hoping not to have to re-write all the code but it looks as
> > though I will have to do that..
> > Next...Is there test program that I can download that exercises
the
> > STAMP so I can be sure all functions are OK,. I can write a simple
> > prgram but I would like one that really checks it
> > and that means writing to all of the EEPROM etcetc.
> > Thanks ron
> >
> >
> > -- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
> > wrote:
> > > Sorry, no. I've heard of people going through the trouble to
> > desolder
> > > the EEPROM to duplicate it, but there is no "decompiler" for
> PBASIC
> > once
> > > it is downloaded to the Stamp. Don't kick yourself, we've all
> been
> > > through this.
> > >
> > > -- Jon Williams
> > > -- Parallax
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: rdoctors@c... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:44 AM
> > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] recovering BS2 program
> > >
> > >
> > > I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it is
> still
> > on
> > > the STAMP. Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that
> the
> > > comments etc will lost but can I get the basic code back out?
HELP
> !!
> > >
> > >
> > >
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once -- would be a bit of a waste for you to build the whole circuit.
Just construct an RC circuit (see the manual or help file for example)
and used fixed values. If you use 0.1 uF and 10K, RCTIME (on a stock
BS2) should return a value of about 600. Of course, you need to make
some room for component variances. I've upload a program to the Files
section of the BASIC Stamps group called Pin_Test.BS2 that you can use.
-- Jon Williams
-- Parallax
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From: rondoc69 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=xPe_I3KzUqmY8EZ5MaEd1dRzH6988CzfBakXuD0F96l5KC9sQxAQakOW3avt_Pn8iX68pvHwFMwqAJ8]rdoctors@c...[/url
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:57 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
I understand that a re-program will remove any old ones. Do you have
the RCTIME prgm? where can I locate the prgm? Doe sit fo thru all the
PINS? FYI the STAMP did get very damp during the winterI wondered if
this somehow has damaged it.
I used to just ftp parallaxinc.com but there doesn't seem to be any
thing in /pub
Is there somewhere that has sample prgms etc.?
Ron
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
wrote:
> Internally, we us RCTIME and known RC values to test Stamp pins.
Why?
> Because the pin needs to be an output to charge/discharge the RC
ciruit,
> then an input to monitor it.
>
> Keep in mind that downloading any test code to your Stamp will
overwrite
> the program you're hoping is still there....
>
> -- Jon Williams
> -- Parallax
>
>
>
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> From: rondoc69 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:22 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
>
>
> OK, I give up what is the best way to test the STAMP? I need to find
> out if it is "good" or not.
> ron
>
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
> wrote:
> > Unless your program was constantly writing to the EEPROM, it's not
> > likely that you wore it out. Stamps don't *look* any differt once
> > they're programmed versus not. If you program has any DEBUG
> statements
> > in it, you can tell the program is intact. Go into the compiler
and
> > manually open a DEBUG window, then restart your Stamp. If you had
> DEBUG
> > message and the program is still there, you'll see them.
> >
> > Just make sure you don't download _anything_ in an attempt to look
> for
> > your program -- that's a sure way to overwrite the program that
may
> > still be there.
> >
> > -- Jon Williams
> > -- Parallax
> >
> >
> >
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> > From: rondoc69 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:30 PM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
> >
> >
> > I think that the program is no longer in the EEPROM . Is it
possible
> > that it faded away? I use the STAMP for a solar panel controller
and
> > it hasn't been powered for almost a year. I have taken out the
STAMP
> 2
> > by itself and it just looks like it is not programmed at all. Is
> there
> > any way to determine if the prgram has gone..?
> > I was hoping not to have to re-write all the code but it looks as
> > though I will have to do that.. Next...Is there test program that I
> > can download that exercises
the
> > STAMP so I can be sure all functions are OK,. I can write a simple
> > prgram but I would like one that really checks it and that means
> > writing to all of the EEPROM etcetc. Thanks ron
> >
> >
> > -- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
> > wrote:
> > > Sorry, no. I've heard of people going through the trouble to
> > desolder
> > > the EEPROM to duplicate it, but there is no "decompiler" for
> PBASIC
> > once
> > > it is downloaded to the Stamp. Don't kick yourself, we've all
> been
> > > through this.
> > >
> > > -- Jon Williams
> > > -- Parallax
> > >
> > >
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> > > From: rdoctors@c... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:44 AM
> > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] recovering BS2 program
> > >
> > >
> > > I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it is
> still
> > on
> > > the STAMP. Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that
> the
> > > comments etc will lost but can I get the basic code back out?
HELP
> !!
> > >
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bad. If power was not applied, not so bad. Examine the module with
a magnifier or a microscope and look for white or green corrosion,
especially between the power supply pins. Corrosion around the
crystal pins would cause the clock to stop. If there is a little bit
of corrosion, you might be able to remove it with a brush.
The test program using RCtime also requires a hardware test jig, with
a resistor /capacitor attached to each pin. The program would then
loop through all of the pins as follows:
'{$PBASIC 2.5}
x var word
i var nib
dirs=$ffff ' all pins output
do
debug cls
outs=$0000 ' all capacitors low
for i=0 to 15
RCtime i,0,x
high i
debug cr,dec i, tab, dec x
' at this point test x for pass/notPass
next
outs=$ffff ' precharge all capacitors high
for i=0 to 15
RCtime i,1,x
low i
debug cr,dec i, tab, dec x
' at this point test x for pass/notPass
next
nap 7
loop
' test finished
Tests capability of each pin to go high, low and to be an input, and
for cross-coupling (short circuit between pins).
>I understand that a re-program will remove any old ones. Do you have
>the RCTIME prgm? where can I locate the prgm? Doe sit fo thru all the
>PINS? FYI the STAMP did get very damp during the winterI wondered if
>this somehow has damaged it.
>I used to just ftp parallaxinc.com but there doesn't seem to be any
>thing in /pub
>Is there somewhere that has sample prgms etc.?
>Ron
>
>
>
>--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
>wrote:
>> Internally, we us RCTIME and known RC values to test Stamp pins.
>Why?
>> Because the pin needs to be an output to charge/discharge the RC
>ciruit,
>> then an input to monitor it.
>>
>> Keep in mind that downloading any test code to your Stamp will
>overwrite
>> the program you're hoping is still there....
>>
>> -- Jon Williams
>> -- Parallax
>>
>>
>>
Original Message
>> From: rondoc69 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:22 PM
>> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
>>
>>
>> OK, I give up what is the best way to test the STAMP? I need to find
>> out if it is "good" or not.
>> ron
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
>> wrote:
>> > Unless your program was constantly writing to the EEPROM, it's not
>> > likely that you wore it out. Stamps don't *look* any differt once
>> > they're programmed versus not. If you program has any DEBUG
>> statements
>> > in it, you can tell the program is intact. Go into the compiler
>and
>> > manually open a DEBUG window, then restart your Stamp. If you had
>> DEBUG
>> > message and the program is still there, you'll see them.
>> >
>> > Just make sure you don't download _anything_ in an attempt to look
>> for
>> > your program -- that's a sure way to overwrite the program that
>may
>> > still be there.
>> >
>> > -- Jon Williams
>> > -- Parallax
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > From: rondoc69 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:30 PM
>> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: recovering BS2 program
>> >
>> >
>> > I think that the program is no longer in the EEPROM . Is it
>possible
>> > that it faded away? I use the STAMP for a solar panel controller
>and
>> > it hasn't been powered for almost a year. I have taken out the
>STAMP
>> 2
>> > by itself and it just looks like it is not programmed at all. Is
>> there
>> > any way to determine if the prgram has gone..?
>> > I was hoping not to have to re-write all the code but it looks as
>> > though I will have to do that..
>> > Next...Is there test program that I can download that exercises
>the
>> > STAMP so I can be sure all functions are OK,. I can write a simple
>> > prgram but I would like one that really checks it
>> > and that means writing to all of the EEPROM etcetc.
>> > Thanks ron
>> >
>> >
>> > -- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Williams" <jwilliams@p...>
> > > wrote:
>> > > Sorry, no. I've heard of people going through the trouble to
>> > desolder
>> > > the EEPROM to duplicate it, but there is no "decompiler" for
>> PBASIC
>> > once
>> > > it is downloaded to the Stamp. Don't kick yourself, we've all
>> been
>> > > through this.
>> > >
>> > > -- Jon Williams
>> > > -- Parallax
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > > From: rdoctors@c... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:rdoctors@c...]
>> > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:44 AM
>> > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] recovering BS2 program
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have lost my original BS2 program but as far as I know it is
>> still
>> > on
>> > > the STAMP. Is there anyway to recover the original. I know that
>> the
>> > > comments etc will lost but can I get the basic code back out?
>HELP
>> !!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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