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BS2 editor for the PocketPC

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-06-19 03:46 in General Discussion
Hello,

I'd like to be able to edit pbasic programs and download them to my
BS2. I've done a few searches on Pocket PC websites but turned up
nothing. Does anyone know of such a programs existance, it'd really
be cool to use my iPAQ to program the Stamp.

Thanks in advance

Matthew LaBerge
labmat@i...

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-06-13 16:10
    I've used a pocket PC (hp jornada) to send and receive serial data from
    stamps but don't know of any programming software that will run on windows
    CE.

    Jim
    http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/


    Original Message
    From: icebox_robotics [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=4JNvQzF5vvEp54yVkOpt8a9Kv_LFidSIeoTzd4UhkL-_JmqRC2q1dVAiLgCzXTLpwJLux2zFyQ]labmat@a...[/url
    Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:42 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] BS2 editor for the PocketPC


    Hello,

    I'd like to be able to edit pbasic programs and download them to my
    BS2. I've done a few searches on Pocket PC websites but turned up
    nothing. Does anyone know of such a programs existance, it'd really
    be cool to use my iPAQ to program the Stamp.

    Thanks in advance

    Matthew LaBerge
    labmat@i...


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-06-18 06:05
    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "icebox_robotics" <labmat@a...>
    wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > I'd like to be able to edit pbasic programs and download them to
    my
    > BS2. I've done a few searches on Pocket PC websites but turned up
    > nothing. Does anyone know of such a programs existance, it'd
    really
    > be cool to use my iPAQ to program the Stamp.
    >
    > Thanks in advance
    >
    > Matthew LaBerge
    > labmat@i...

    I glad someone ask the questions I have been asking for a year
    without any real help from anyone or parallax. I have gotten as for
    as trying to get the firmware version. Look at the pdf on serial
    protocol in the tokenizer section on the parallax downloads. I was
    going to use about 200 BSII for a high school class if I was able to
    simply download a hex file from my pocket pc to a BSII using VB 5.0
    or greater. I give up and I am now looking for another product. I
    hope you have better luck.
    Curtis
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-06-18 17:33

    Original Message
    From: "cenlasoft" <cenlasoft@y...>
    <snip>
    > Look at the pdf on serial
    > protocol in the tokenizer section on the parallax downloads. I was
    > going to use about 200 BSII for a high school class if I was able to
    > simply download a hex file from my pocket pc to a BSII using VB 5.0
    > or greater. I give up and I am now looking for another product. I
    > hope you have better luck.

    Curtis,
    Before I get started here, I'd like to state that I'm no Stamp or
    electronics wiz. Anything I say should be taken with a grain of salt, since
    I may or may not know what I'm talking about.
    Anyway, it isn't possible to download an iHex file to the stamps, since they
    don't use that format. They use "tokens" in a proprietary format. The
    closest you can get to an iHex file with the Stamps is the "generate object
    code" function in the Stamp editor. It exports a token file contained in a
    .exe to automatically download the code to the Stamp from a computer without
    the Parallax IDE.
    AFAIK, these .exe's aren't CE compatible, and there aren't any other similar
    programs to download code from an iPaq or PocketPC. Since the tokens are in
    proprietary format, your only real options are to go with a PIC or AVR or
    something that does use the iHex format, or beg Parallax to hire you as a
    business partner/consultant to develop something for winCE. Good luck! :O)

    - Robert
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-06-18 18:56
    It can't be that hard to make the Pocket PC program these things,
    look "http://www.parallax.com/detail.asp?product_id=27330" parallax
    sells a device that stores about 15 programs that can then be
    transfered to the Basic stamp from the device without a PC in the
    mix. Thats all I really want to be able to do, the writing programs
    directly on the iPAQ would be super cool but I can live with having
    to write the programs on the PC. (I actually type the programs out
    on my iPAQ now and then cut and paste them into Stamp Editor on my PC
    and program the stamp that way now)


    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Ussery" <uavscience@f...>
    wrote:
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "cenlasoft" <cenlasoft@y...>
    > <snip>
    > > Look at the pdf on serial
    > > protocol in the tokenizer section on the parallax downloads. I
    was
    > > going to use about 200 BSII for a high school class if I was able
    to
    > > simply download a hex file from my pocket pc to a BSII using VB
    5.0
    > > or greater. I give up and I am now looking for another product. I
    > > hope you have better luck.
    >
    > Curtis,
    > Before I get started here, I'd like to state that I'm no Stamp or
    > electronics wiz. Anything I say should be taken with a grain of
    salt, since
    > I may or may not know what I'm talking about.
    > Anyway, it isn't possible to download an iHex file to the stamps,
    since they
    > don't use that format. They use "tokens" in a proprietary format.
    The
    > closest you can get to an iHex file with the Stamps is
    the "generate object
    > code" function in the Stamp editor. It exports a token file
    contained in a
    > .exe to automatically download the code to the Stamp from a
    computer without
    > the Parallax IDE.
    > AFAIK, these .exe's aren't CE compatible, and there aren't any
    other similar
    > programs to download code from an iPaq or PocketPC. Since the
    tokens are in
    > proprietary format, your only real options are to go with a PIC or
    AVR or
    > something that does use the iHex format, or beg Parallax to hire
    you as a
    > business partner/consultant to develop something for winCE. Good
    luck! :O)
    >
    > - Robert
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-06-18 19:21
    With all due respect, if it was easy we would probably have done it by
    now..... We have enough difficulty supporting all of the various desktop
    versions
    of Windows -- and believe me, there are internal differences that make the
    programmer's job tough.

    We may ultimately support the Palm and PocketPC operating systems, but those
    tasks are not very high on our priority list as they would affect so few
    customers on a product that we give away [noparse][[/noparse]editor]. It's really hard to justify
    the
    time commitment to those projects with so many other things (like a new
    Stamp) still on our plate.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Parallax


    In a message dated 6/18/2003 1:00:24 PM Central Standard Time,
    labmat@a... writes:

    > It can't be that hard to make the Pocket PC program these things,
    > look "http://www.parallax.com/detail.asp?product_id=27330" parallax
    > sells a device that stores about 15 programs that can then be
    > transfered to the Basic stamp from the device without a PC in the
    > mix. Thats all I really want to be able to do, the writing programs
    > directly on the iPAQ would be super cool but I can live with having
    > to write the programs on the PC. (I actually type the programs out
    > on my iPAQ now and then cut and paste them into Stamp Editor on my PC
    > and program the stamp that way now)



    [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-06-18 20:51
    New stamp?.... Now you've done it.


    Original Message
    From: jonwms@a... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=zx-movRqyop5Y-aXZo4eawkFk8UcwGFHYOI9MB47lAGChazjLq7b0o8ttdkdpstqSyA5JA]jonwms@a...[/url
    Sent: June 18, 2003 2:21 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2 editor for the PocketPC

    With all due respect, if it was easy we would probably have done it by
    now..... We have enough difficulty supporting all of the various
    desktop versions
    of Windows -- and believe me, there are internal differences that make
    the
    programmer's job tough.

    We may ultimately support the Palm and PocketPC operating systems, but
    those
    tasks are not very high on our priority list as they would affect so few

    customers on a product that we give away [noparse][[/noparse]editor]. It's really hard to
    justify the
    time commitment to those projects with so many other things (like a new
    Stamp) still on our plate.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Parallax


    In a message dated 6/18/2003 1:00:24 PM Central Standard Time,
    labmat@a... writes:

    > It can't be that hard to make the Pocket PC program these things,
    > look "http://www.parallax.com/detail.asp?product_id=27330" parallax
    > sells a device that stores about 15 programs that can then be
    > transfered to the Basic stamp from the device without a PC in the
    > mix. Thats all I really want to be able to do, the writing programs
    > directly on the iPAQ would be super cool but I can live with having
    > to write the programs on the PC. (I actually type the programs out
    > on my iPAQ now and then cut and paste them into Stamp Editor on my PC
    > and program the stamp that way now)



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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-06-19 00:58
    Hey, Palm support would certainly be nice, but it is clearly not a
    must-have item. (Who would do program development for anything but a
    Palm on a Palm?) On a similar note note, I'm glad that you support Mac,
    I have a PC, but the Mac is my main machine.

    On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 02:21 PM, jonwms@a... wrote:

    > With all due respect, if it was easy we would probably have done it by
    > now..... We have enough difficulty supporting all of the various
    > desktop versions
    > of Windows -- and believe me, there are internal differences that make
    > the
    > programmer's job tough.
    >
    > We may ultimately support the Palm and PocketPC operating systems, but
    > those
    > tasks are not very high on our priority list as they would affect so
    > few
    > customers on a product that we give away [noparse][[/noparse]editor]. It's really hard
    > to justify the
    > time commitment to those projects with so many other things (like a new
    > Stamp) still on our plate.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Parallax
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 6/18/2003 1:00:24 PM Central Standard Time,
    > labmat@a... writes:
    >
    >> It can't be that hard to make the Pocket PC program these things,
    >> look "http://www.parallax.com/detail.asp?product_id=27330" parallax
    >> sells a device that stores about 15 programs that can then be
    >> transfered to the Basic stamp from the device without a PC in the
    >> mix. Thats all I really want to be able to do, the writing programs
    >> directly on the iPAQ would be super cool but I can live with having
    >> to write the programs on the PC. (I actually type the programs out
    >> on my iPAQ now and then cut and paste them into Stamp Editor on my PC
    >> and program the stamp that way now)
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-06-19 03:46
    Jon

    I'm sorry if I offended you in any way... I can understand the
    dificulties in supporting so many products with limited resources
    (Same boat here). And I appreciate everything that Parallax does, I
    can't believe that you guys give so much away for free, you guys
    rule. When I was talking about a basic stamp editor for the Pocket
    PC I was really talking about someone other than Parallax developing
    one. There are so many people developing software for the Pocket PC
    that I cannot believe that someone hasn't developed an editor yet,
    you give the tokenizer away for free.

    Once again I appologize if I offended you.

    Matt

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, jonwms@a... wrote:
    > With all due respect, if it was easy we would probably have done
    it by
    > now..... We have enough difficulty supporting all of the various
    desktop versions
    > of Windows -- and believe me, there are internal differences that
    make the
    > programmer's job tough.
    >
    > We may ultimately support the Palm and PocketPC operating systems,
    but those
    > tasks are not very high on our priority list as they would affect
    so few
    > customers on a product that we give away [noparse][[/noparse]editor]. It's really
    hard to justify the
    > time commitment to those projects with so many other things (like
    a new
    > Stamp) still on our plate.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Parallax
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 6/18/2003 1:00:24 PM Central Standard Time,
    > labmat@a... writes:
    >
    > > It can't be that hard to make the Pocket PC program these
    things,
    > > look "http://www.parallax.com/detail.asp?product_id=27330"
    parallax
    > > sells a device that stores about 15 programs that can then be
    > > transfered to the Basic stamp from the device without a PC in
    the
    > > mix. Thats all I really want to be able to do, the writing
    programs
    > > directly on the iPAQ would be super cool but I can live with
    having
    > > to write the programs on the PC. (I actually type the programs
    out
    > > on my iPAQ now and then cut and paste them into Stamp Editor on
    my PC
    > > and program the stamp that way now)
    >
    >
    >
    > [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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