Ultrasonic vaporization
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Hi!
I've been looking everywhere for information on this topic and it
seems to be scarce.
Has anyone used ultrasonic waves to vaporize various liquids? I'm
really interested in creating a BS2-based vaporizer.
This sounds like something that someone else has probably tried, so I
wanted to ask before reinventing the wheel!
Thanks,
Derek
I've been looking everywhere for information on this topic and it
seems to be scarce.
Has anyone used ultrasonic waves to vaporize various liquids? I'm
really interested in creating a BS2-based vaporizer.
This sounds like something that someone else has probably tried, so I
wanted to ask before reinventing the wheel!
Thanks,
Derek
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which could include Ultrasonic.
Larry Gaminde
Original Message
From: "neuroburp" <parallax@b...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: May 26, 2003 4:31 PM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Ultrasonic vaporization
> Hi!
>
> I've been looking everywhere for information on this topic and it
> seems to be scarce.
>
> Has anyone used ultrasonic waves to vaporize various liquids? I'm
> really interested in creating a BS2-based vaporizer.
>
> This sounds like something that someone else has probably tried, so I
> wanted to ask before reinventing the wheel!
>
> Thanks,
> Derek
>
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garden stores and I ran across these for sale. I picked one up, works well.
It's meant for fountains to add a fog over the fountain. If you want a
cheap ultrasonic vaporizer run out and pick up a cheap visible mist
humidifier and hack it, they use this technique to vaporize the water.
As for how it actually works... I read it some where once.. can't remember
where, but I'll have a look and see if I can find the information again.
Chris Shuster
Original Message
From: "neuroburp" <parallax@b...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:31 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Ultrasonic vaporization
> Hi!
>
> I've been looking everywhere for information on this topic and it
> seems to be scarce.
>
> Has anyone used ultrasonic waves to vaporize various liquids? I'm
> really interested in creating a BS2-based vaporizer.
>
> This sounds like something that someone else has probably tried, so I
> wanted to ask before reinventing the wheel!
>
> Thanks,
> Derek
>
>
>
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filtered water. The minerals in tap water will be dispersed as well, which
can cause respiratory problems as well as dust all over everything.
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> Well I've never done this with a stamp, but I was at one of those home and
> garden stores and I ran across these for sale. I picked one up, works
well.
> It's meant for fountains to add a fog over the fountain. If you want a
> cheap ultrasonic vaporizer run out and pick up a cheap visible mist
> humidifier and hack it, they use this technique to vaporize the water.
>
> As for how it actually works... I read it some where once.. can't remember
> where, but I'll have a look and see if I can find the information again.
for ages (since I live in dry Colorado) and have been filling them off tap
water... thanks for the advice Rodent.
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From: "Rodent" <daweasel@s...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Ultrasonic vaporization
> If you are going to be breathing the mist, you need to use distilled or
> filtered water. The minerals in tap water will be dispersed as well, which
> can cause respiratory problems as well as dust all over everything.
>
>
Original Message
>
> > Well I've never done this with a stamp, but I was at one of those home
and
> > garden stores and I ran across these for sale. I picked one up, works
> well.
> > It's meant for fountains to add a fog over the fountain. If you want a
> > cheap ultrasonic vaporizer run out and pick up a cheap visible mist
> > humidifier and hack it, they use this technique to vaporize the water.
> >
> > As for how it actually works... I read it some where once.. can't
remember
> > where, but I'll have a look and see if I can find the information again.
>
>
>
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it. That or Consumer Reports.
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> Interesting I never even thought of that, I've had visible mist
humidifiers
> for ages (since I live in dry Colorado) and have been filling them off tap
> water...
> > If you are going to be breathing the mist, you need to use distilled or
> > filtered water. The minerals in tap water will be dispersed as well,
which
> > can cause respiratory problems as well as dust all over everything.
> If you are going to be breathing the mist, you need to use
distilled or
> filtered water. The minerals in tap water will be dispersed as
well, which
> can cause respiratory problems as well as dust all over everything.
>
Yeah, that's pretty weird! I would have never guessed that it could
be harmful to disperse minerals!?! I found a site, during my
searching, where a doctor was giving that advice as well.
Actually, my intended goal (after much experimentation with water) is
to vaporize standard unleaded gasoline in an attempt to make a more
efficient carburetor for increased gas mileage. I hope the "men in
black" don't come and get me! [noparse]:)[/noparse]
I considered playing around with one of those foggers from a
fountain, as you described, but I read elsewhere that different
liquids require different frequencies to actually vaporize. That's
why I was looking for more generic information. It's almost as
though it's a secret, or something!
I'm basically trying to find a more high-tech approach to the system
that is being sold on the Eagle-Research web site. It's a small
canister that keeps a float-controlled amount of liquid gasoline in
the bottom and uses the engine's vacuume to pull air up through the
liquid gasoline via tiny bubblers, yeilding pure vapor. The idea is
that only gasoline vapor is combustible, so traditional carburetion
and fuel injection waste liquid gasoline that ends up getting burned
off in your catalytic converter. Here's the URL, in case you're
interested:
http://www.eagle-research.com/fuelsav/hy2a.html
Still, I have that odd feeling that I get whenever I have a new
idea... "Someone else must have tried this before." So, I feel like
I should keep looking before I kill myself when I accidentally find
the secret to spontaneous human combustion, or something! Haha...
-Derek
Original Message
From: "neuroburp" <parallax@b...>
> Actually, my intended goal (after much experimentation with water) is
> to vaporize standard unleaded gasoline in an attempt to make a more
> efficient carburetor for increased gas mileage. I hope the "men in
> black" don't come and get me! [noparse]:)[/noparse]
YIPES!
Sounds dangerous! I just wanted to check if you are aware how dangerous
vaporized gas is? I know you're probably aware of this, but I don't want to
read about you on the darwin awards website...
I don't think vaporized gas is exactly hypergolic, but it's real close!
Please be careful...
- Robert :O)
> YIPES!
> Sounds dangerous! I just wanted to check if you are aware how
dangerous
> vaporized gas is? I know you're probably aware of this, but I don't
want to
> read about you on the darwin awards website...
> I don't think vaporized gas is exactly hypergolic, but it's real
close!
> Please be careful...
>
> - Robert :O)
Oh yeah!! I've had worries about that myself, so that's why I'd
start with water! [noparse]:)[/noparse] I'm sure that I'd have a LONG extension cord
connected to any "live" tests... Of course, with the lack of
information on this subject, I'll probably never have to worry!
If it does turn out to be a hypergolic reaction, I may have to create
a very closed chamber which then forces the gas directly into the
intake manifold, or even vaporize the gas as it enters each valve
intake. I'm sure that I'd have a heat problem with the transducers
at that point which would ruin everything. I keep telling myself
that if it's such a good idea, vehicle manufacturers would already be
doing it. Still, I've seen lots of other ideas I've had suddenly hit
the market because someone else was proactive enough to run with
them...
-Derek
just clamps to the incoming fuel line or something. I don't have a catalog
handy but will report back if I can find it.
>
> YIPES!
> Sounds dangerous! I just wanted to check if you are aware how
dangerous
> vaporized gas is? I know you're probably aware of this, but I don't
want to
> read about you on the darwin awards website...
> I don't think vaporized gas is exactly hypergolic, but it's real
close!
> Please be careful...
>
> - Robert :O)
Oh yeah!! I've had worries about that myself, so that's why I'd
start with water! [noparse]:)[/noparse] I'm sure that I'd have a LONG extension cord
connected to any "live" tests... Of course, with the lack of
information on this subject, I'll probably never have to worry!
If it does turn out to be a hypergolic reaction, I may have to create
a very closed chamber which then forces the gas directly into the
intake manifold, or even vaporize the gas as it enters each valve
intake. I'm sure that I'd have a heat problem with the transducers
at that point which would ruin everything. I keep telling myself
that if it's such a good idea, vehicle manufacturers would already be
doing it. Still, I've seen lots of other ideas I've had suddenly hit
the market because someone else was proactive enough to run with
them...
-Derek
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plastic hose clamp / magnet thingies they sell to prolong your life.
My old physics teacher, whom I had during the gas crisis back in the 70's,
said if you took all the products that claimed to save gas and put them on
one car, you would have to stop every 10 miles to drain the gas tank.
Original Message
> It seems I have seen a similar unit in a harbor freight catalog. This
unit
> just clamps to the incoming fuel line or something. I don't have a
catalog
> handy but will report back if I can find it.
> > Sounds dangerous! I just wanted to check if you are aware how
> dangerous
> > vaporized gas is? I know you're probably aware of this, but I don't
> want to
> > read about you on the darwin awards website...
> > I don't think vaporized gas is exactly hypergolic, but it's real
> close!
> > Please be careful...
as other automotive 'wonders'. But for only $19.95............
Nope. Those were the magnet things. Goes with the magnetic bracelets and
the
plastic hose clamp / magnet thingies they sell to prolong your life.
My old physics teacher, whom I had during the gas crisis back in the 70's,
said if you took all the products that claimed to save gas and put them on
one car, you would have to stop every 10 miles to drain the gas tank.
Original Message
> It seems I have seen a similar unit in a harbor freight catalog. This
unit
> just clamps to the incoming fuel line or something. I don't have a
catalog
> handy but will report back if I can find it.
> > Sounds dangerous! I just wanted to check if you are aware how
> dangerous
> > vaporized gas is? I know you're probably aware of this, but I don't
> want to
> > read about you on the darwin awards website...
> > I don't think vaporized gas is exactly hypergolic, but it's real
> close!
> > Please be careful...
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