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I know this subject came up before...Someone asked if anyone had a
list of the most useful parts & IC's for the BS2 that would be a
good set to keep on hand for various designs & projects...I don't
remember anyone posting one though.
So....Anyone have a list of the easiest/best/most useful parts for
BS2 project development. I mean with all the Dallas/Maxim parts,
all the LCD displays, keypad encoders, serial backpacks, etc.
I want to have some good ADC chips, Temp Sensors, Clock chips,
serial eeprom or flash memory and the like on-hand. If anyone wants
to offer up good part #s, I could use some fresh ideas.
I know I need to get some 74595's...Everyone seems to be using them
to expand output capability...
list of the most useful parts & IC's for the BS2 that would be a
good set to keep on hand for various designs & projects...I don't
remember anyone posting one though.
So....Anyone have a list of the easiest/best/most useful parts for
BS2 project development. I mean with all the Dallas/Maxim parts,
all the LCD displays, keypad encoders, serial backpacks, etc.
I want to have some good ADC chips, Temp Sensors, Clock chips,
serial eeprom or flash memory and the like on-hand. If anyone wants
to offer up good part #s, I could use some fresh ideas.
I know I need to get some 74595's...Everyone seems to be using them
to expand output capability...
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each needs. Besides, technology is constantly changing and if you want to
experiment with the new things, you have to keep up to date. All you really
need is a good board as a base to hold and program the stamp, some interface
components on board, some imagination and a digi-key catalog.
jim
http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/
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I know this subject came up before...Someone asked if anyone had a
list of the most useful parts & IC's for the BS2 that would be a
good set to keep on hand for various designs & projects...I don't
remember anyone posting one though.
So....Anyone have a list of the easiest/best/most useful parts for
BS2 project development. I mean with all the Dallas/Maxim parts,
all the LCD displays, keypad encoders, serial backpacks, etc.
I want to have some good ADC chips, Temp Sensors, Clock chips,
serial eeprom or flash memory and the like on-hand. If anyone wants
to offer up good part #s, I could use some fresh ideas.
I know I need to get some 74595's...Everyone seems to be using them
to expand output capability...
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they might be useful later, to help build a supply of parts. Basic things
like standard value resisters (150, 1k, 1.5k, etc), LED's, 555's, voltage
regs, caps, switches, etc. Don't forget hardware like screws and
protoboards also. The specialty/relatively expensive stuff, however, like
ADC's, etc, should probably be purchased on an as needed basis.
Essentially, just be aware of what you need at any given moment and ask
yourself if you seem to be needing it alot. If so, it's probably something
you should stock.
just my 2c.
d...
>
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> every project is unique and no standard parts list will provide everything
> each needs. Besides, technology is constantly changing and if you want to
> experiment with the new things, you have to keep up to date. All
> you really
> need is a good board as a base to hold and program the stamp,
> some interface
> components on board, some imagination and a digi-key catalog.
>
> jim
> http://www.geocities.com/jimforkin2003/
>
>
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>
>
> I know this subject came up before...Someone asked if anyone had a
> list of the most useful parts & IC's for the BS2 that would be a
> good set to keep on hand for various designs & projects...I don't
> remember anyone posting one though.
>
> So....Anyone have a list of the easiest/best/most useful parts for
> BS2 project development. I mean with all the Dallas/Maxim parts,
> all the LCD displays, keypad encoders, serial backpacks, etc.
>
> I want to have some good ADC chips, Temp Sensors, Clock chips,
> serial eeprom or flash memory and the like on-hand. If anyone wants
> to offer up good part #s, I could use some fresh ideas.
>
> I know I need to get some 74595's...Everyone seems to be using them
> to expand output capability...
>
>
>
>
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> every project is unique and no standard parts list
> will provide everything
> each needs. Besides, technology is constantly
> changing and if you want to
> experiment with the new things, you have to keep up
> to date. All you really
> need is a good board as a base to hold and program
> the stamp, some interface
> components on board, some imagination and a digi-key
> catalog.
Jim, I think that I may have addressed that question
the wrong way...As I have been designing and building
with MCU's for over 20 years, I have about 8 or 10
parts cabinets (60 drawer) full of components. I used
to design around the Z80, with discrete
components...Since I have moved to the stamp, I have
been seeing most of the discussion around the more
flexible chips for it being such as the 74HC595, the
ULN2803A, the ADC0831, the DS1302, etc.
I was just trying to find out if anyone had a good
list of parts that would be essential to the BS2
toolbox, so to speak. For my Z80 I always kept
various SRAMs, EPROMs, 74LS244, 74LS374, 74LS138, etc.
around for any design.
What I decided after posting the message (And I
should've done this in the first place) was to go to
Parallax's website and see what they sold in the
component shop, figuring, this is what's used in most
of the applications they sell.
For anyone who's interested, here's what I cam up
with...
ADC0831, 74HC595, MAX7219, DS1302, TSL230 (Neat but
not necessary), DS1620, ULN2803A, DS1822, LM34,
DS2890, DS2405...I know I have seen a few more chips
mentioned, but this seemed a good starting point...Of
course, I already have on-hand the PIC-an-LCD chips,
as well as the EDE1144 keypad encoder.
=====
Chris Savage
Knight Designs
324 West Main Street
Montour Falls, NY 14865
(607) 535-6777
http://www.knightdesigns.com
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> Another thing I usually do is buy extras when I get
> parts if it looks like
> they might be useful later, to help build a supply
> of parts.
Yep, I definately gave the wrong impression in my
message...
to some extent...Of course, you'd have to see my
collection first...I have resistor values so obscure,
I haven't used them in 10 years (Some from amplifiers
I used to build)...2 whole 60-drawer cabinets of
resistors, including resistor networks (SIPPS),
potentiometers, trimmer pots, power resistors, you
name it...2 cabinets of just capacitors...Tantalum,
ceramic, and electrolytic (Radial AND Axial).
> Basic things
> like standard value resisters (150, 1k, 1.5k, etc),
> LED's, 555's, voltage
> regs, caps, switches, etc. Don't forget hardware
> like screws and
> protoboards also.
My problem is most of my parts were collected for
6502, 6809, 68000, Z80, and 8085 based projects. I
had so many of the support chips for all these CPUs,
that a couple of years ago I emptied 2 cabinets and
sold all my UARTS, PIAs (Except 8255), SRAMS, EPROMs,
etc...Mostly parallel interface in nature...The BS2
using mostly serial interface devices, I had very
little in that respect.
> The specialty/relatively
> expensive stuff, however, like
> ADC's, etc, should probably be purchased on an as
> needed basis.
I still have a few ISD chips, ALL my 74xx logic chips,
many LCD displays of various configs...Some specialty
chips (Non MPU-based) such as Audio Amplifiers and
switches...And of course the LM391x chips...
> Essentially, just be aware of what you need at any
> given moment and ask
> yourself if you seem to be needing it alot. If so,
> it's probably something
> you should stock.
> just my 2c.
What I need to do right now, is get a web page open
and order everything I posted in my last message...AND
I need to get my hands on a BS2p40 starter kit from
Parallax, since I do have a few apps that need WAY
more I/O and memory than what I have in stock BS2.
Anyway, thanks everyone for your replies, as an
electronics technician and designer, I didn't mean to
come off sounding like a newbie!
=====
Chris Savage
Knight Designs
324 West Main Street
Montour Falls, NY 14865
(607) 535-6777
http://www.knightdesigns.com
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leave home (like on a training trip) without:
220 -- pin protection (RCTIME, etc.)
470 -- LEDs
1K -- low current LEDs
4.7K -- I2C or 1-Wire pull-ups
10K -- general purpose pull-ups and pull-downs
I have a neat little five-compartment box that works perfectly for storing
these key resistor values. As far as caps, I always have a supply of...
0.1 uF
0.01 uF
Everything else is special. You might take a look at the parts used in the
StampWorks book as it uses a lot of things that you might want to have on
hand [noparse][[/noparse]the MAX7219 is special, but everything else is good to have on hand].
-- Jon Williams
-- Parallax
In a message dated 5/14/2003 9:13:30 AM Central Standard Time,
dokagaki@w... writes:
> Another thing I usually do is buy extras when I get parts if it looks like
> they might be useful later, to help build a supply of parts. Basic things
> like standard value resisters (150, 1k, 1.5k, etc), LED's, 555's, voltage
> regs, caps, switches, etc. Don't forget hardware like screws and
> protoboards also. The specialty/relatively expensive stuff, however, like
> ADC's, etc, should probably be purchased on an as needed basis.
> Essentially, just be aware of what you need at any given moment and ask
> yourself if you seem to be needing it alot. If so, it's probably something
> you should stock.
>
> just my 2c.
[noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
The MAX3110 (Max 3100 WITH Max232 on-chip, no caps needed)
The Max232, AND the 1uF or .1 uF caps that go with it.
These are nice for making FIFO'ed serial ports.
Also, the 25LC640 is an 8K x 8 bit SPI EEPROM for
data logging purposes.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, Chris Savage
<knight_designs@y...> wrote:
> --- Jim Forkin <jjf@p...> wrote:
> > every project is unique and no standard parts list
> > will provide everything
> > each needs. Besides, technology is constantly
> > changing and if you want to
> > experiment with the new things, you have to keep up
> > to date. All you really
> > need is a good board as a base to hold and program
> > the stamp, some interface
> > components on board, some imagination and a digi-key
> > catalog.
>
> Jim, I think that I may have addressed that question
> the wrong way...As I have been designing and building
> with MCU's for over 20 years, I have about 8 or 10
> parts cabinets (60 drawer) full of components. I used
> to design around the Z80, with discrete
> components...Since I have moved to the stamp, I have
> been seeing most of the discussion around the more
> flexible chips for it being such as the 74HC595, the
> ULN2803A, the ADC0831, the DS1302, etc.
>
> I was just trying to find out if anyone had a good
> list of parts that would be essential to the BS2
> toolbox, so to speak. For my Z80 I always kept
> various SRAMs, EPROMs, 74LS244, 74LS374, 74LS138, etc.
> around for any design.
>
> What I decided after posting the message (And I
> should've done this in the first place) was to go to
> Parallax's website and see what they sold in the
> component shop, figuring, this is what's used in most
> of the applications they sell.
>
> For anyone who's interested, here's what I cam up
> with...
>
> ADC0831, 74HC595, MAX7219, DS1302, TSL230 (Neat but
> not necessary), DS1620, ULN2803A, DS1822, LM34,
> DS2890, DS2405...I know I have seen a few more chips
> mentioned, but this seemed a good starting point...Of
> course, I already have on-hand the PIC-an-LCD chips,
> as well as the EDE1144 keypad encoder.
>
>
>
>
> =====
> Chris Savage
> Knight Designs
> 324 West Main Street
> Montour Falls, NY 14865
> (607) 535-6777
>
> http://www.knightdesigns.com
>
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saying you want to have some good ADC's means you can sock $100.00 in
5 chips you will never use, but might have on hand just in case....
the basics resistors and caps and pots and stuff.
but, even with pots, there are sooo many types and stuyles and values
that you could speed a couple hundred dollars to get a nice supply.
some cost $1.00 some $12.00 board mount, square or rectangular,
trimmer or multi turn.
probably if you lay out a couple wish list projects then get the
parts for those, you will cut down your number of orders and save
shipping $$.
I usually order things like resistors and caps in lots of 10 or 25
when they appear frequently. chip carriers, op-amps, transistors...
the stuff you use to populate the boards.
then order some other..stuff just to have it..
If I am doing something like a screw terminal, I'll order different
styles and have a couple for other projects. the mismatch of sizes
and colors often makes it great for determing what the inputs are.
But, when it comes to sensors, get them as you need them. you can
spend huge dollars on stuff like that. 35 bux for a sensor, check
pressure or humidity stuff. big bux.
Dave
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "knight_designs"
<knight_designs@y...> wrote:
> I know this subject came up before...Someone asked if anyone had a
> list of the most useful parts & IC's for the BS2 that would be a
> good set to keep on hand for various designs & projects...I don't
> remember anyone posting one though.
>
> So....Anyone have a list of the easiest/best/most useful parts for
> BS2 project development. I mean with all the Dallas/Maxim parts,
> all the LCD displays, keypad encoders, serial backpacks, etc.
>
> I want to have some good ADC chips, Temp Sensors, Clock chips,
> serial eeprom or flash memory and the like on-hand. If anyone
wants
> to offer up good part #s, I could use some fresh ideas.
>
> I know I need to get some 74595's...Everyone seems to be using them
> to expand output capability...
> Everything else is special. You might take a look
> at the parts used in the
> StampWorks book as it uses a lot of things that you
> might want to have on
> hand [noparse][[/noparse]the MAX7219 is special, but everything else is
> good to have on hand].
That MAX7219 maybe a specialty type chip, but it so
happened that when it was mentioned on here to
someone, I was in the process of laying out a PCB for
several 7447 ICs, when I could've used this MAX7219
instead...Also, I noticed on the site (Parallax's) the
TSL230, which would also seem to be a specialty item,
but the same project I mentioned above could use this
very chip!
=====
Chris Savage
Knight Designs
324 West Main Street
Montour Falls, NY 14865
(607) 535-6777
http://www.knightdesigns.com
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While the specialized sensors and ICs can be somewhat expensive, you can get
quite a good assortment of the basics without spending a small fortune --
especially if you buy them from the right place ;-)
The two "Microcontroller Application Cookbook" volumes by Matt Gilliland are
a very good resource to answer this question. He highlights many of the
ICs, sensors, and circuits commonly used with the Stamps and other micros.
You can get them at a good price at amazon.com when you buy the two as a
set -- that's what I did.
I was about to put together a list of the resistors and capacitors that are
the most popular with my Stamp and PIC customers, but Jon already did -- and
they are exactly the same values that I would have mentioned...
Very popular and useful transistors would include the 2N3904, 2N3906,
PN2222/2N2222, 2N7000 MOSFET, TIP120 NPN Darlington, IRL520N logic-level
power MOSFET, etc. A few 1N400x rectifier diodes and 1N914/1N4148 switching
diodes would be handy to have on hand.
You mentioned the 74xx595 shift register for output expansion, and the
74xx165 is also popular for the reverse -- input expansion. The 74xx138
3-to-8 decoder/demux can be useful too.
The ACD0831 is a very common and inexpensive A/D converter which works great
with the SHIFTIN/SHIFTOUT instructions. Popular and reasonably priced
temperature sensors include the LM335 and LM34DZ. I like to have a few of
the inexpensive LM386N audio amp ICs around also.
The common pots used for breadboarding are well under a buck each, and a few
sizes from 1K to 50K are very handy. Opto-isolators, either the PS2501 or
the 4N2x series are inexpensive for a small selection. I would want a few
555 timers at hand -- both standard and CMOS. And some electrolytic
capacitors and voltage regulators for power supply stuff. A few op-amps and
comparators would be nice to have for analog circuits -- such as buffering
or scaling voltages from sensors to the A/D converter. Others have
mentioned the Dallas ICs... clock/calendar, thermometer, etc.
Probably left out some stuff, but a decent selection of these parts is very
useful, and doesn't cost all that much. The specialized $30 sensors can
always be bought as needed...
Randy Jones
www.glitchbuster.com
> I know this subject came up before...Someone asked if anyone had a
> list of the most useful parts & IC's for the BS2 that would be a
> good set to keep on hand for various designs & projects...I don't
> remember anyone posting one though.
>
> So....Anyone have a list of the easiest/best/most useful parts for
> BS2 project development. I mean with all the Dallas/Maxim parts,
> all the LCD displays, keypad encoders, serial backpacks, etc.
>
> I want to have some good ADC chips, Temp Sensors, Clock chips,
> serial eeprom or flash memory and the like on-hand. If anyone wants
> to offer up good part #s, I could use some fresh ideas.
>
> I know I need to get some 74595's...Everyone seems to be using them
> to expand output capability...
>
>
>
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