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Supplying power and addressing stamps up one wire

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-05-08 04:31 in General Discussion
Hi All,

I have an idea that I want to supply +12 volts up a wire to a group
of lamps that are wired in parallel to it. Each lamp will be
controlled by a basic stamp which is individually addressed to
control it's respective lamp.

Here's the problem - How do I multiplex a data signal up a wire that
is carrying 12VDC?

I have considered DTMF, but need reasonably high speed (need to be
able to address five lamps in say half a second). Another wire just
isn't an option.



Does anybody have any ideas?

Regards,

Dwain.

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-05-04 04:16
    In a message dated 5/3/2003 8:09:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    dwainsworld@e... writes:

    > Hi All,
    >
    > I have an idea that I want to supply +12 volts up a wire to a group
    > of lamps that are wired in parallel to it. Each lamp will be
    > controlled by a basic stamp which is individually addressed to
    > control it's respective lamp.
    >
    > Here's the problem - How do I multiplex a data signal up a wire that
    > is carrying 12VDC?
    >
    > I have considered DTMF, but need reasonably high speed (need to be
    > able to address five lamps in say half a second). Another wire just
    > isn't an option.
    >
    >
    >
    > Does anybody have any ideas?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Dwain.

    I am not real clear on what you are attempting to do? You have a series a
    lamps wired in parallel. You want the stamp to control several lamps with one
    output wire???

    Please clarify a little/


    [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-05-04 08:11
    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, smartdim@a... wrote:
    > In a message dated 5/3/2003 8:09:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    > dwainsworld@e... writes:
    >
    > > Hi All,
    > >
    > > I have an idea that I want to supply +12 volts up a wire to a
    group
    > > of lamps that are wired in parallel to it. Each lamp will be
    > > controlled by a basic stamp which is individually addressed to
    > > control it's respective lamp.
    > >
    > > Here's the problem - How do I multiplex a data signal up a wire
    that
    > > is carrying 12VDC?
    > >
    > > I have considered DTMF, but need reasonably high speed (need to
    be
    > > able to address five lamps in say half a second). Another wire
    just
    > > isn't an option.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Does anybody have any ideas?
    > >
    > > Regards,
    > >
    > > Dwain.
    >
    > I am not real clear on what you are attempting to do? You have a
    series a
    > lamps wired in parallel. You want the stamp to control several
    lamps with one
    > output wire???
    >
    > Please clarify a little/

    Sorry, my description wasn't clear.

    Basically I want to send data to stamps up a wire that has a 12VDC
    rail on it, for the purpose of turning lamps on and off. So up one
    wire i want to power a stamp AND send data to it from another stamp.

    The data will tell the receiving stamp what lights to turn on and off.

    It's a multiplexing question - how do I put a +12VDC supply rail AND
    some form of communication between two stamps up just one wire?

    Regards,

    Dwain.
    >
    >
    > [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-05-04 14:51
    Will the two stamps share the same ground?


    [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-05-04 19:19
    Hi Dwain,

    I don't think you need to give up on DTMF. The tone bursts can be
    quite short, and 5 could easily fit in 1/2 second. Of course, you
    need a touch tone decoder at the other end in addition to the Stamp.
    The Stamp can generate DTMF but not decode it.

    Alternatively, you could use a cheap LM567 single tone decoder, and
    send a simple ascii codes as tone pulses. The "detect" output from
    the LM567 goes into a stamp pin. The message could be encoded as
    ascii at 2400 baud or as pulse length. That is about 50 milliseconds
    per message, within your 5/second requirement. If you use good
    communications cable, you could get much faster transmission speeds
    at higher tone frequencies.

    Another option would be X-10 protocol, but the while the Stamp has an
    Xout command, it does not have X-in, so you would need a decoder for
    that, too.

    -- Tracy




    >Hi All,
    >I have an idea that I want to supply +12 volts up a wire to a group
    >of lamps that are wired in parallel to it. Each lamp will be
    >controlled by a basic stamp which is individually addressed to
    >control it's respective lamp.
    >Here's the problem - How do I multiplex a data signal up a wire that
    >is carrying 12VDC?
    >I have considered DTMF, but need reasonably high speed (need to be
    >able to address five lamps in say half a second). Another wire just
    >isn't an option.
    >Does anybody have any ideas?
    >Regards,
    >Dwain.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-05-08 04:31
    Thanks once again all for your help re this, sorry I took so long to reply,
    I have been away.

    Looks like the LM567 is the go, have a few in the post coming my way as we
    speak.

    Regards,

    Dwain.
    Original Message
    From: "Tracy Allen" <tracy@e...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:19 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Supplying power and addressing stamps up one wire


    > Hi Dwain,
    >
    > I don't think you need to give up on DTMF. The tone bursts can be
    > quite short, and 5 could easily fit in 1/2 second. Of course, you
    > need a touch tone decoder at the other end in addition to the Stamp.
    > The Stamp can generate DTMF but not decode it.
    >
    > Alternatively, you could use a cheap LM567 single tone decoder, and
    > send a simple ascii codes as tone pulses. The "detect" output from
    > the LM567 goes into a stamp pin. The message could be encoded as
    > ascii at 2400 baud or as pulse length. That is about 50 milliseconds
    > per message, within your 5/second requirement. If you use good
    > communications cable, you could get much faster transmission speeds
    > at higher tone frequencies.
    >
    > Another option would be X-10 protocol, but the while the Stamp has an
    > Xout command, it does not have X-in, so you would need a decoder for
    > that, too.
    >
    > -- Tracy
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > >Hi All,
    > >I have an idea that I want to supply +12 volts up a wire to a group
    > >of lamps that are wired in parallel to it. Each lamp will be
    > >controlled by a basic stamp which is individually addressed to
    > >control it's respective lamp.
    > >Here's the problem - How do I multiplex a data signal up a wire that
    > >is carrying 12VDC?
    > >I have considered DTMF, but need reasonably high speed (need to be
    > >able to address five lamps in say half a second). Another wire just
    > >isn't an option.
    > >Does anybody have any ideas?
    > >Regards,
    > >Dwain.
    >
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