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Micro Fuel Cell

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-04-13 15:08 in General Discussion
Does anyone know of a manufacturer of mini fuel cells?
I would like to look into using fuel cells to power my
robot projects.

Thanks,
Andrew Hoover

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-04-11 22:26
    In a message dated 4/11/2003 1:25:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    robotics@p... writes:

    > Does anyone know of a manufacturer of mini fuel cells?
    > I would like to look into using fuel cells to power my
    > robot projects.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Andrew Hoover
    >

    go to
    <A HREF="www.howstuffworks.com">www.howstuffworks.com</A>

    <A HREF="http://www.utoypia.com/fuelcellcar.shtml">Fuel Cell Car Kit at
    uTOYpia</A>


    [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-04-12 15:30
    Andrew,

    It depends what you want. I have been pursuing a fuel cell bot myself. The
    main trouble I have been having so far is raising the voltage of the cell
    enough to run the logic circuits. I have tried several cells using the MAX
    756, no luck. I am still looking. E-mail me off list if you want my details
    on my failures ;-)

    Jonathan
    Original Message
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    Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:26 PM
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    > In a message dated 4/11/2003 1:25:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    > robotics@p... writes:
    >
    > > Does anyone know of a manufacturer of mini fuel cells?
    > > I would like to look into using fuel cells to power my
    > > robot projects.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Andrew Hoover
    > >
    >
    > go to
    > <A HREF="www.howstuffworks.com">www.howstuffworks.com</A>
    >
    > <A HREF="http://www.utoypia.com/fuelcellcar.shtml">Fuel Cell Car Kit at
    uTOYpia</A>
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-04-12 16:02
    Hey all,
    These fuel cells run on hydrogen right? Or are there different versions
    that run on different substances? If they do run on hydrogen how do you
    plan on getting that fuel?
    -Mike
    Original Message
    From: Jonathan Peakall [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=njjU5q2JloBJH1FuL-EdStoxtluDRE4AXKRRCR9RYLbuu4Hp8_yE7tLa4bW0Wt59jkXBtMd31AQ4KG4n]jpeakall@m...[/url
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    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell

    Andrew,

    It depends what you want. I have been pursuing a fuel cell bot myself.
    The
    main trouble I have been having so far is raising the voltage of the
    cell
    enough to run the logic circuits. I have tried several cells using the
    MAX
    756, no luck. I am still looking. E-mail me off list if you want my
    details
    on my failures ;-)

    Jonathan
    Original Message
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    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:26 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell


    > In a message dated 4/11/2003 1:25:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    > robotics@p... writes:
    >
    > > Does anyone know of a manufacturer of mini fuel cells?
    > > I would like to look into using fuel cells to power my
    > > robot projects.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Andrew Hoover
    > >
    >
    > go to
    > <A HREF="www.howstuffworks.com">www.howstuffworks.com</A>
    >
    > <A HREF="http://www.utoypia.com/fuelcellcar.shtml">Fuel Cell Car Kit
    at
    uTOYpia</A>
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-04-12 22:29
    I found this over on the Toddler bots group at yahoo. I used the entire text
    to give credit where credit is due.

    HI,

    You mean like this?
    http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/solar/fuelcell.htm
    or a more robust version..
    http://www.homepower.com/files/fuelcell.pdf


    Wayne
    Wayne & Rebecca Lowry
    Springfield, Oregon

    And I'm partial to people from Oregon anyway. I was born there.

    Mic
    Original Message
    From: Jonathan Peakall <jpeakall@m...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:30 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell


    > Andrew,
    >
    > It depends what you want. I have been pursuing a fuel cell bot myself. The
    > main trouble I have been having so far is raising the voltage of the cell
    > enough to run the logic circuits. I have tried several cells using the MAX
    > 756, no luck. I am still looking. E-mail me off list if you want my
    details
    > on my failures ;-)
    >
    > Jonathan
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: <smartdim@a...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:26 PM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell
    >
    >
    > > In a message dated 4/11/2003 1:25:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    > > robotics@p... writes:
    > >
    > > > Does anyone know of a manufacturer of mini fuel cells?
    > > > I would like to look into using fuel cells to power my
    > > > robot projects.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > Andrew Hoover
    > > >
    > >
    > > go to
    > > <A HREF="www.howstuffworks.com">www.howstuffworks.com</A>
    > >
    > > <A HREF="http://www.utoypia.com/fuelcellcar.shtml">Fuel Cell Car Kit at
    > uTOYpia</A>
    > >
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-04-13 04:32
    Generally Speaking, fuel cells generate electricity by
    the interaction between hydrogen and oxygen. Getting
    oxygen isn't difficult, but it is time consuming. You
    would use either a solar array (for the "free"
    generation of Hydrogen) or AC house voltage to split
    water into hydrogen and oxygen. After that you use the
    hydrogen and air for the fuel cell. The whole trick to
    the system is to figure out an effecient way to
    generate hydrogen.

    Andy
    --- Mike Dillon <laxboy687@e...> wrote:
    > Hey all,
    > These fuel cells run on hydrogen right? Or are there
    > different versions
    > that run on different substances? If they do run on
    > hydrogen how do you
    > plan on getting that fuel?
    > -Mike
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Jonathan Peakall
    > [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=oPUt6iU0Gql6I71F9Yt6_APzTBynOrf9z8QkEvzQbJYA4RfrBIsLY6giMkmXAklBgCJqJ2M6Q2AvRmU]jpeakall@m...[/url
    > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:31 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell
    >
    > Andrew,
    >
    > It depends what you want. I have been pursuing a
    > fuel cell bot myself.
    > The
    > main trouble I have been having so far is raising
    > the voltage of the
    > cell
    > enough to run the logic circuits. I have tried
    > several cells using the
    > MAX
    > 756, no luck. I am still looking. E-mail me off list
    > if you want my
    > details
    > on my failures ;-)
    >
    > Jonathan
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: <smartdim@a...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:26 PM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell
    >
    >
    > > In a message dated 4/11/2003 1:25:15 PM Pacific
    > Daylight Time,
    > > robotics@p... writes:
    > >
    > > > Does anyone know of a manufacturer of mini fuel
    > cells?
    > > > I would like to look into using fuel cells to
    > power my
    > > > robot projects.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > Andrew Hoover
    > > >
    > >
    > > go to
    > > <A
    >
    HREF="www.howstuffworks.com">www.howstuffworks.com</A>
    > >
    > > <A
    > HREF="http://www.utoypia.com/fuelcellcar.shtml">Fuel
    > Cell Car Kit
    > at
    > uTOYpia</A>
    > >
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-04-13 04:36
    These are great links, thanks a whole heap!

    Andy
    --- Michael Duerksen <michael_duerksen@c...>
    wrote:
    > I found this over on the Toddler bots group at
    > yahoo. I used the entire text
    > to give credit where credit is due.
    >
    > HI,
    >
    > You mean like this?
    >
    http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/solar/fuelcell.htm
    > or a more robust version..
    > http://www.homepower.com/files/fuelcell.pdf
    >
    >
    > Wayne
    > Wayne & Rebecca Lowry
    > Springfield, Oregon
    >
    > And I'm partial to people from Oregon anyway. I was
    > born there.
    >
    > Mic
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Jonathan Peakall <jpeakall@m...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:30 AM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell
    >
    >
    > > Andrew,
    > >
    > > It depends what you want. I have been pursuing a
    > fuel cell bot myself. The
    > > main trouble I have been having so far is raising
    > the voltage of the cell
    > > enough to run the logic circuits. I have tried
    > several cells using the MAX
    > > 756, no luck. I am still looking. E-mail me off
    > list if you want my
    > details
    > > on my failures ;-)
    > >
    > > Jonathan
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: <smartdim@a...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:26 PM
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell
    > >
    > >
    > > > In a message dated 4/11/2003 1:25:15 PM Pacific
    > Daylight Time,
    > > > robotics@p... writes:
    > > >
    > > > > Does anyone know of a manufacturer of mini
    > fuel cells?
    > > > > I would like to look into using fuel cells to
    > power my
    > > > > robot projects.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks,
    > > > > Andrew Hoover
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > go to
    > > > <A
    >
    HREF="www.howstuffworks.com">www.howstuffworks.com</A>
    > > >
    > > > <A
    > HREF="http://www.utoypia.com/fuelcellcar.shtml">Fuel
    > Cell Car Kit at
    > > uTOYpia</A>
    > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-04-13 15:08
    Hi All,

    This is getting kinda OT but...

    The Thames and Kosmos fuel cell in the link is neat, I have one.
    Unfortunately, since it is a single membrane cell, it's voltage under any
    load drops to about .7V. The motor that comes with it is a special motor
    made to run on this low voltage, and it doesn't produce enough power to run
    much of a bot. Further, it is (so far for me) impossible to make the cell
    cough up enough voltage to run a HF DC/DC converter on. At least not a
    through hole type like the MAX756. They have a SMT model that might work,
    but I can't do SMT.

    One extremely neat feature about the T&K cell is that it is reversible,
    meaning it will perform electrolysis if voltage is applied to it, and it is
    a very efficient fuel producer. The current plan with my bot is to use one
    of these to produce fuel for another cell.

    Any more details should be off list, so e-mail if you want.

    Jonathan

    www.madlabs.info
    Original Message
    From: "Powderworks Robotics" <robotics@p...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 8:36 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell


    > These are great links, thanks a whole heap!
    >
    > Andy
    > --- Michael Duerksen <michael_duerksen@c...>
    > wrote:
    > > I found this over on the Toddler bots group at
    > > yahoo. I used the entire text
    > > to give credit where credit is due.
    > >
    > > HI,
    > >
    > > You mean like this?
    > >
    > http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/solar/fuelcell.htm
    > > or a more robust version..
    > > http://www.homepower.com/files/fuelcell.pdf
    > >
    > >
    > > Wayne
    > > Wayne & Rebecca Lowry
    > > Springfield, Oregon
    > >
    > > And I'm partial to people from Oregon anyway. I was
    > > born there.
    > >
    > > Mic
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: Jonathan Peakall <jpeakall@m...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:30 AM
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell
    > >
    > >
    > > > Andrew,
    > > >
    > > > It depends what you want. I have been pursuing a
    > > fuel cell bot myself. The
    > > > main trouble I have been having so far is raising
    > > the voltage of the cell
    > > > enough to run the logic circuits. I have tried
    > > several cells using the MAX
    > > > 756, no luck. I am still looking. E-mail me off
    > > list if you want my
    > > details
    > > > on my failures ;-)
    > > >
    > > > Jonathan
    > > >
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > > From: <smartdim@a...>
    > > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:26 PM
    > > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Micro Fuel Cell
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > > In a message dated 4/11/2003 1:25:15 PM Pacific
    > > Daylight Time,
    > > > > robotics@p... writes:
    > > > >
    > > > > > Does anyone know of a manufacturer of mini
    > > fuel cells?
    > > > > > I would like to look into using fuel cells to
    > > power my
    > > > > > robot projects.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Thanks,
    > > > > > Andrew Hoover
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > go to
    > > > > <A
    > >
    > HREF="www.howstuffworks.com">www.howstuffworks.com</A>
    > > > >
    > > > > <A
    > > HREF="http://www.utoypia.com/fuelcellcar.shtml">Fuel
    > > Cell Car Kit at
    > > > uTOYpia</A>
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