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Can the BS2p be programmed using the Stache module? The Parallax website also
suggests that the BS1 can be programmed with it on the accessories page, I don't
think that this is correct.
Best Regards,
Alex
Original Message
From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=7m7Ak461P7TU4aKEMSNfr6Lf5ShiwFj3si44QNWHlOUFnByOQb-d8Ai67LYMGJJYlE73RHb7ChBKneOHHpyV6Gqspz8]allan.lane@h...[/url
Sent: Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:07
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Palm -> BS2 ?
The www.emesystems.com 'Stache' module
(see parallax.com, under Products, Accessories)
is a small unit designed to allow you to
download Stamp programs in the field. You
write them to the 'stache' on your desktop,
then take the module to the field, connect it,
and press a button to download the program.
It is $99.00, ouch. There does exist on the
web somewhere the protocol Stamp uses for
downloads -- I believe they have VB use it.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "kiltjim" <kiltjim@a...> wrote:
> Has anyone done any work with a Palm Pilot and a BS2?
>
> Here's my idea...
>
> I have a Palm m125 and a BS2. What I want to be able to do is
upload
> new programs to the BS2, so I can edit the program out in the
field.
> I am using the BS2 to control a large robot, so it makes it a
little
> difficult to pull the chip out take it home, and reprogram it on my
> computer. If I could do this with a palm pilot it would be soooo
> much easier.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks, Jim
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suggests that the BS1 can be programmed with it on the accessories page, I don't
think that this is correct.
Best Regards,
Alex
Original Message
From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=7m7Ak461P7TU4aKEMSNfr6Lf5ShiwFj3si44QNWHlOUFnByOQb-d8Ai67LYMGJJYlE73RHb7ChBKneOHHpyV6Gqspz8]allan.lane@h...[/url
Sent: Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:07
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Palm -> BS2 ?
The www.emesystems.com 'Stache' module
(see parallax.com, under Products, Accessories)
is a small unit designed to allow you to
download Stamp programs in the field. You
write them to the 'stache' on your desktop,
then take the module to the field, connect it,
and press a button to download the program.
It is $99.00, ouch. There does exist on the
web somewhere the protocol Stamp uses for
downloads -- I believe they have VB use it.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "kiltjim" <kiltjim@a...> wrote:
> Has anyone done any work with a Palm Pilot and a BS2?
>
> Here's my idea...
>
> I have a Palm m125 and a BS2. What I want to be able to do is
upload
> new programs to the BS2, so I can edit the program out in the
field.
> I am using the BS2 to control a large robot, so it makes it a
little
> difficult to pull the chip out take it home, and reprogram it on my
> computer. If I could do this with a palm pilot it would be soooo
> much easier.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks, Jim
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Comments
Yes, the Stache does support the BS2p (24 and 40 pin) and the BS2pe.
I amended the accessories page on our web site since the Stache does not
support the BS1. I apologize for the mistake.
Tracy Allen's site contains detailed information and software upgrades
on this page -
http://www.emesystems.com/stache.htm
In my (biased) opinion, $99 is a fair price for such a field programmer.
Erik Wood
ewood@p...
Parallax, Inc.
599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
Rocklin, CA 95765
(916) 624-8333
www.parallax.com
Original Message
From: Alex Metcalfe [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=IsKX8QWMncCtMtDM8Lfon3WYCMuPUYOWPnVHFekxurMSzAHXcSL59oqT66KV5UHIDWY2jUxPpW_nwxXKFXc]ametcalfe@p...[/url
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:35 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
Can the BS2p be programmed using the Stache module? The Parallax website
also suggests that the BS1 can be programmed with it on the accessories
page, I don't think that this is correct.
Best Regards,
Alex
Original Message
From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=y0wb2KSg2-IZCrAPjBYm1G_snyjgxVKlc3nKa43EBOvHmnRzhPYwOIlR4BMzznVg8NgDGfd7mQnPYDMj3jQkAq8dudo80W0]allan.lane@h...[/url
Sent: Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:07
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Palm -> BS2 ?
The www.emesystems.com 'Stache' module
(see parallax.com, under Products, Accessories)
is a small unit designed to allow you to
download Stamp programs in the field. You
write them to the 'stache' on your desktop,
then take the module to the field, connect it,
and press a button to download the program.
It is $99.00, ouch. There does exist on the
web somewhere the protocol Stamp uses for
downloads -- I believe they have VB use it.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "kiltjim" <kiltjim@a...> wrote:
> Has anyone done any work with a Palm Pilot and a BS2?
>
> Here's my idea...
>
> I have a Palm m125 and a BS2. What I want to be able to do is
upload
> new programs to the BS2, so I can edit the program out in the
field.
> I am using the BS2 to control a large robot, so it makes it a
little
> difficult to pull the chip out take it home, and reprogram it on my
> computer. If I could do this with a palm pilot it would be soooo
> much easier.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks, Jim
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The latest version of the Stache firmware is 1.7. It supports the
newest Stamps, including the BS2pe, and it supports the new windows
IDE and the object code downloaders.
The new IDE made major changes in the way that Stamps are identified
and programmed, so (thanks and a tip of the hat to Steve Parkis)
version 1.7 of the Stache firmware is a major upgrade. It also works
with older versions of the IDE and with the DOS editors as well.
Visit
http://www.emesystems.com/stache.htm
for version and upgrade information.
-- best regards
Tracy Allen
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mailto:tracy@e...
>Alex,
>
>Yes, the Stache does support the BS2p (24 and 40 pin) and the BS2pe.
>I amended the accessories page on our web site since the Stache does not
>support the BS1. I apologize for the mistake.
>
>Tracy Allen's site contains detailed information and software upgrades
>on this page -
>http://www.emesystems.com/stache.htm
>
>In my (biased) opinion, $99 is a fair price for such a field programmer.
>
>
>Erik Wood
>ewood@p...
>
>Parallax, Inc.
>599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
>Rocklin, CA 95765
>(916) 624-8333
>www.parallax.com
>
>
>
Original Message
>From: Alex Metcalfe [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=yvPhQrosmyNbamXQDOI4QWqguVZ5p5jAgZ2pBKS1dV5VbXihMOwwnyR4QIM_XF5fIBqxcRS2c4VU-MC1xw]ametcalfe@p...[/url
>Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:35 AM
>To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
>
>
>Can the BS2p be programmed using the Stache module? The Parallax website
>also suggests that the BS1 can be programmed with it on the accessories
>page, I don't think that this is correct.
>
>Best Regards,
>Alex
>
>
Original Message
>From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=_y2LAc5fUdjQDT8Au1UU19JP98msp9gsYhS2yH6csLuDahlqTVfaFcfEJk9bKUriFHOXeCbNhN34H1xqwGkbegqVmKJWcA]allan.lane@h...[/url
>Sent: Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:07
>To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Palm -> BS2 ?
>
>
>The www.emesystems.com 'Stache' module
>(see parallax.com, under Products, Accessories)
>is a small unit designed to allow you to
>download Stamp programs in the field. You
>write them to the 'stache' on your desktop,
>then take the module to the field, connect it,
>and press a button to download the program.
>
>It is $99.00, ouch. There does exist on the
>web somewhere the protocol Stamp uses for
>downloads -- I believe they have VB use it.
>
>
>--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "kiltjim" <kiltjim@a...> wrote:
>> Has anyone done any work with a Palm Pilot and a BS2?
>>
>> Here's my idea...
>>
>> I have a Palm m125 and a BS2. What I want to be able to do is
>upload
>> new programs to the BS2, so I can edit the program out in the
>field.
>> I am using the BS2 to control a large robot, so it makes it a
>little
>> difficult to pull the chip out take it home, and reprogram it on my
>> computer. If I could do this with a palm pilot it would be soooo
>> much easier.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks, Jim
>
>
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I agree that the price of the field programmer is very reasonable but
I am looking for a way to program BS1 Stamps in large quantities in the field
without using a PC or laptop.
Also we use all 8 2k memory slots on our BS2p Stamps and we would need to
download 5 different programs. This would require 4 Stache Modules per site and
increase the cost greatly.
Should anyone have experience in using BS1 Stamps on mass produced machines I
would be grateful to hear from them. In the mean time we will be purchasing a
Stache for trial in one of our production sites.
Kind regards,
Alex Metcalfe
Original Message
From: Erik Wood [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=0WhZrbq70xtyI0jZ_JQYFKyWwm7w2vL3ns629JWvNeUlrZ0PQYU75tih4Bx8aFf_suyuFxWtb3Yh]ewood@p...[/url
Sent: Thursday, 03 April 2003 18:13
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
Alex,
Yes, the Stache does support the BS2p (24 and 40 pin) and the BS2pe.
I amended the accessories page on our web site since the Stache does not
support the BS1. I apologize for the mistake.
Tracy Allen's site contains detailed information and software upgrades
on this page -
http://www.emesystems.com/stache.htm
In my (biased) opinion, $99 is a fair price for such a field programmer.
Erik Wood
ewood@p...
Parallax, Inc.
599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
Rocklin, CA 95765
(916) 624-8333
www.parallax.com
Original Message
From: Alex Metcalfe [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=RIIisy0A-i-TsgVZGw7-C25ote2S_bwJQyWKgCMHaJC_LohYk5R3sY4T8x1hTGP77hC-rL8ShxC1EgXG4_Jm_g]ametcalfe@p...[/url
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:35 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
Can the BS2p be programmed using the Stache module? The Parallax website
also suggests that the BS1 can be programmed with it on the accessories
page, I don't think that this is correct.
Best Regards,
Alex
Original Message
From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=rz67x_GtbnI1rOM8_GGOTQnVcgzIu_u3ATLx1iTG6fNDKWVvr4xjBqR6J4a2J7ffMT8Ob4PkVhySChlPaMOmK8aUTpT6]allan.lane@h...[/url
Sent: Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:07
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Palm -> BS2 ?
The www.emesystems.com 'Stache' module
(see parallax.com, under Products, Accessories)
is a small unit designed to allow you to
download Stamp programs in the field. You
write them to the 'stache' on your desktop,
then take the module to the field, connect it,
and press a button to download the program.
It is $99.00, ouch. There does exist on the
web somewhere the protocol Stamp uses for
downloads -- I believe they have VB use it.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "kiltjim" <kiltjim@a...> wrote:
> Has anyone done any work with a Palm Pilot and a BS2?
>
> Here's my idea...
>
> I have a Palm m125 and a BS2. What I want to be able to do is
upload
> new programs to the BS2, so I can edit the program out in the
field.
> I am using the BS2 to control a large robot, so it makes it a
little
> difficult to pull the chip out take it home, and reprogram it on my
> computer. If I could do this with a palm pilot it would be soooo
> much easier.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks, Jim
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For a field programmer, I'm only aware of the Stache as a solution.
If you're looking to program Stamps with your special code, we can offer
that service in large quantities but that doesn't help you with your
need of programming and re-programming in the field. The cost of this
service varies according to the quantity of BASIC Stamps and the
programming time.
Best Regards,
Erik Wood
ewood@p...
Parallax, Inc.
599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
Rocklin, CA 95765
(916) 624-8333
www.parallax.com
Original Message
From: Alex Metcalfe [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=xGA108iY1riwzEjZL23uPTD6MwqIqc5qX_mtpcLhc-EHj-fhEkFNb1ftlHDWs5q1fIiWId1RWvhfrrJPyqyb0w]ametcalfe@p...[/url
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 4:54 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
Eric,
I agree that the price of the field programmer is very reasonable but
I am looking for a way to program BS1 Stamps in large quantities in the
field without using a PC or laptop.
Also we use all 8 2k memory slots on our BS2p Stamps and we would need
to download 5 different programs. This would require 4 Stache Modules
per site and increase the cost greatly.
Should anyone have experience in using BS1 Stamps on mass produced
machines I would be grateful to hear from them. In the mean time we will
be purchasing a Stache for trial in one of our production sites.
Kind regards,
Alex Metcalfe
Original Message
From: Erik Wood [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=w8hwLL6lneELQgk-WlZZmfdezq9dCagjq9uJYJMXjdCI0WTe0_kFYYtIRw9HrnIhykd4gB8ebu77fxKc]ewood@p...[/url
Sent: Thursday, 03 April 2003 18:13
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
Alex,
Yes, the Stache does support the BS2p (24 and 40 pin) and the BS2pe. I
amended the accessories page on our web site since the Stache does not
support the BS1. I apologize for the mistake.
Tracy Allen's site contains detailed information and software upgrades
on this page - http://www.emesystems.com/stache.htm
In my (biased) opinion, $99 is a fair price for such a field programmer.
Erik Wood
ewood@p...
Parallax, Inc.
599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
Rocklin, CA 95765
(916) 624-8333
www.parallax.com
Original Message
From: Alex Metcalfe [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=xGA108iY1riwzEjZL23uPTD6MwqIqc5qX_mtpcLhc-EHj-fhEkFNb1ftlHDWs5q1fIiWId1RWvhfrrJPyqyb0w]ametcalfe@p...[/url
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:35 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
Can the BS2p be programmed using the Stache module? The Parallax website
also suggests that the BS1 can be programmed with it on the accessories
page, I don't think that this is correct.
Best Regards,
Alex
Original Message
From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=bOKrlgJeWc52W_tLz2qSFKbc_QgnNvvu1J7338FmQ3_O3c2_-jsouyARXifUGYcaCBLaFvh_W5Jl_JIJ240Bf6a3ebKnuw]allan.lane@h...[/url
Sent: Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:07
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Palm -> BS2 ?
The www.emesystems.com 'Stache' module
(see parallax.com, under Products, Accessories)
is a small unit designed to allow you to
download Stamp programs in the field. You
write them to the 'stache' on your desktop,
then take the module to the field, connect it,
and press a button to download the program.
It is $99.00, ouch. There does exist on the
web somewhere the protocol Stamp uses for
downloads -- I believe they have VB use it.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "kiltjim" <kiltjim@a...> wrote:
> Has anyone done any work with a Palm Pilot and a BS2?
>
> Here's my idea...
>
> I have a Palm m125 and a BS2. What I want to be able to do is
upload
> new programs to the BS2, so I can edit the program out in the
field.
> I am using the BS2 to control a large robot, so it makes it a
little
> difficult to pull the chip out take it home, and reprogram it on my
> computer. If I could do this with a palm pilot it would be soooo much
> easier.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks, Jim
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As Eric mentioned, the Stache does not program the BS1, sorry.
You say you use all 8 BS2p banks in all 5 projects, but are all the
banks different? For example, say each bank 0 is different, and
banks 1 to 7 are the same in all 5 projects. In that case you could
still hold all the data in one Stache.
I realize that it might be the opposite of that, say, if most of the
eeprom is used for project-specific data patterns.
-- Tracy
>Eric,
>
>I agree that the price of the field programmer is very reasonable but
>I am looking for a way to program BS1 Stamps in large quantities in
>the field without using a PC or laptop.
>
>Also we use all 8 2k memory slots on our BS2p Stamps and we would
>need to download 5 different programs. This would require 4 Stache
>Modules per site and increase the cost greatly.
>
>Should anyone have experience in using BS1 Stamps on mass produced
>machines I would be grateful to hear from them. In the mean time we
>will be purchasing a Stache for trial in one of our production sites.
>
>Kind regards,
>Alex Metcalfe
>
>Original Message
>From: Erik Wood [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=Vy3JwZwavOqNDTD3PXUyplypDGOBlstSCQ8Ssy_u5L_uTyHrClKL35x_GRJ3l8sjPJeDdBeZfP4]ewood@p...[/url
>Sent: Thursday, 03 April 2003 18:13
>To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
>
>
>Alex,
>
>Yes, the Stache does support the BS2p (24 and 40 pin) and the BS2pe.
>I amended the accessories page on our web site since the Stache does not
>support the BS1. I apologize for the mistake.
>
>Tracy Allen's site contains detailed information and software upgrades
>on this page -
>http://www.emesystems.com/stache.htm
>
>In my (biased) opinion, $99 is a fair price for such a field programmer.
>
>
>Erik Wood
>ewood@p...
>
>Parallax, Inc.
>599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
>Rocklin, CA 95765
>(916) 624-8333
>www.parallax.com
>
>
>
Original Message
>From: Alex Metcalfe [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=FZbJbpur4EE8ZYn1tIjRWmBpAkyEwCR4vZiGHxzYN4NnT2LxWex9zIExGMcTe9ZdrhT5uwr5MhlBi09rrDyY]ametcalfe@p...[/url
>Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:35 AM
>To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
>
>
>Can the BS2p be programmed using the Stache module? The Parallax website
>also suggests that the BS1 can be programmed with it on the accessories
>page, I don't think that this is correct.
>
>Best Regards,
>Alex
>
>
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>From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=Yluuroho-1rsMVpoP_EbIU1i21Sfyj3EWM1IeOrrlFliC7b1u_oxICl5TlQ8QJxBVAnwqPcA8U-r-EC0u4vOx70-dFkz-w]allan.lane@h...[/url
>Sent: Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:07
>To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Palm -> BS2 ?
>
>
>The www.emesystems.com 'Stache' module
>(see parallax.com, under Products, Accessories)
>is a small unit designed to allow you to
>download Stamp programs in the field. You
>write them to the 'stache' on your desktop,
>then take the module to the field, connect it,
>and press a button to download the program.
>
>It is $99.00, ouch. There does exist on the
>web somewhere the protocol Stamp uses for
>downloads -- I believe they have VB use it.
>
>
>--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "kiltjim" <kiltjim@a...> wrote:
>> Has anyone done any work with a Palm Pilot and a BS2?
>>
>> Here's my idea...
>>
>> I have a Palm m125 and a BS2. What I want to be able to do is
>upload
>> new programs to the BS2, so I can edit the program out in the
>field.
>> I am using the BS2 to control a large robot, so it makes it a
>little
>> difficult to pull the chip out take it home, and reprogram it on my
>> computer. If I could do this with a palm pilot it would be soooo
>> much easier.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks, Jim
>
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1. The BS1 usually uses three pins of a DB25 parallel cable to be
programmed -- PCOut (Pin 11, 'Busy'), PCIn (Pin 2, "D0"), and pin 25
for ground.
2. The BS1 has a 'BSAVE' directive to save a 256 byte image of the
EEPROM, which can later be downloaded into a BS1 with the stand-
alone "BSLOAD.EXE" program (Parallax: is this program still avail?)
3. The BS1 DEBUG command sends a 4800 baud signal out the PCOut pin.
I would have thought there would be a description of the protocol, as
there is for the BS2 etc. I'd also think it would be fairly
straightforward to put a logic analyzer on PCout and PCin during
programming and figure it out. Having done that, it should be VERY
straightforward to build a Stamp 2 based gizmo with a large external
EEPROM and a button for downloading Stamp 1 programs.
BUT -- I don't think there exists a 'canned' solution yet. Good luck.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Metcalfe" <ametcalfe@p...>
wrote:
> Eric,
>
> I agree that the price of the field programmer is very reasonable
but
> I am looking for a way to program BS1 Stamps in large quantities in
the field without using a PC or laptop.
>
> Also we use all 8 2k memory slots on our BS2p Stamps and we would
need to download 5 different programs. This would require 4 Stache
Modules per site and increase the cost greatly.
>
> Should anyone have experience in using BS1 Stamps on mass produced
machines I would be grateful to hear from them. In the mean time we
will be purchasing a Stache for trial in one of our production sites.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alex Metcalfe
>
> Original Message
> From: Erik Wood [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:ewood@p...]
> Sent: Thursday, 03 April 2003 18:13
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
>
>
> Alex,
>
> Yes, the Stache does support the BS2p (24 and 40 pin) and the BS2pe.
> I amended the accessories page on our web site since the Stache
does not
> support the BS1. I apologize for the mistake.
>
> Tracy Allen's site contains detailed information and software
upgrades
> on this page -
> http://www.emesystems.com/stache.htm
>
> In my (biased) opinion, $99 is a fair price for such a field
programmer.
>
>
> Erik Wood
> ewood@p...
>
> Parallax, Inc.
> 599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
> Rocklin, CA 95765
> (916) 624-8333
> www.parallax.com
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: Alex Metcalfe [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:ametcalfe@p...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:35 AM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
>
>
> Can the BS2p be programmed using the Stache module? The Parallax
website
> also suggests that the BS1 can be programmed with it on the
accessories
> page, I don't think that this is correct.
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
>
>
Original Message
> From: Allan Lane [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:allan.lane@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:07
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Palm -> BS2 ?
>
>
> The www.emesystems.com 'Stache' module
> (see parallax.com, under Products, Accessories)
> is a small unit designed to allow you to
> download Stamp programs in the field. You
> write them to the 'stache' on your desktop,
> then take the module to the field, connect it,
> and press a button to download the program.
>
> It is $99.00, ouch. There does exist on the
> web somewhere the protocol Stamp uses for
> downloads -- I believe they have VB use it.
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "kiltjim" <kiltjim@a...> wrote:
> > Has anyone done any work with a Palm Pilot and a BS2?
> >
> > Here's my idea...
> >
> > I have a Palm m125 and a BS2. What I want to be able to do is
> upload
> > new programs to the BS2, so I can edit the program out in the
> field.
> > I am using the BS2 to control a large robot, so it makes it a
> little
> > difficult to pull the chip out take it home, and reprogram it on
my
> > computer. If I could do this with a palm pilot it would be soooo
> > much easier.
> >
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks, Jim
>
>
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problem. In the case of one of our sites, the Stache module would provide a
solution for the machines built there.
Unfortunately, I don't think that our production volume is high enough or
predictable for Parallax to download our programs for us.
I am tempted by the idea of developing a BS1 programming module, would anybody
else be interested? Also, how much information would Parallax be willing to
release about the download protocol?
Kind Regards,
Alex Metcalfe
Original Message
From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=_zrpfFqL8BNfWtKSOk3VFnjjZtUUFsqISDGORnQ178TyfZ8gdelzs6_SJVv2cdqF3NxLnWYPEZ2XLaEjYnO1ASJbaoQ]allan.lane@h...[/url
Sent: Saturday, 05 April 2003 02:03
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Stache Module
After much looking around the web, I've found:
1. The BS1 usually uses three pins of a DB25 parallel cable to be
programmed -- PCOut (Pin 11, 'Busy'), PCIn (Pin 2, "D0"), and pin 25
for ground.
2. The BS1 has a 'BSAVE' directive to save a 256 byte image of the
EEPROM, which can later be downloaded into a BS1 with the stand-
alone "BSLOAD.EXE" program (Parallax: is this program still avail?)
3. The BS1 DEBUG command sends a 4800 baud signal out the PCOut pin.
I would have thought there would be a description of the protocol, as
there is for the BS2 etc. I'd also think it would be fairly
straightforward to put a logic analyzer on PCout and PCin during
programming and figure it out. Having done that, it should be VERY
straightforward to build a Stamp 2 based gizmo with a large external
EEPROM and a button for downloading Stamp 1 programs.
BUT -- I don't think there exists a 'canned' solution yet. Good luck.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Metcalfe" <ametcalfe@p...>
wrote:
> Eric,
>
> I agree that the price of the field programmer is very reasonable
but
> I am looking for a way to program BS1 Stamps in large quantities in
the field without using a PC or laptop.
>
> Also we use all 8 2k memory slots on our BS2p Stamps and we would
need to download 5 different programs. This would require 4 Stache
Modules per site and increase the cost greatly.
>
> Should anyone have experience in using BS1 Stamps on mass produced
machines I would be grateful to hear from them. In the mean time we
will be purchasing a Stache for trial in one of our production sites.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alex Metcalfe
>
> Original Message
> From: Erik Wood [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:ewood@p...]
> Sent: Thursday, 03 April 2003 18:13
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
>
>
> Alex,
>
> Yes, the Stache does support the BS2p (24 and 40 pin) and the BS2pe.
> I amended the accessories page on our web site since the Stache
does not
> support the BS1. I apologize for the mistake.
>
> Tracy Allen's site contains detailed information and software
upgrades
> on this page -
> http://www.emesystems.com/stache.htm
>
> In my (biased) opinion, $99 is a fair price for such a field
programmer.
>
>
> Erik Wood
> ewood@p...
>
> Parallax, Inc.
> 599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
> Rocklin, CA 95765
> (916) 624-8333
> www.parallax.com
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: Alex Metcalfe [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:ametcalfe@p...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:35 AM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stache Module
>
>
> Can the BS2p be programmed using the Stache module? The Parallax
website
> also suggests that the BS1 can be programmed with it on the
accessories
> page, I don't think that this is correct.
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
>
>
Original Message
> From: Allan Lane [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:allan.lane@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:07
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Palm -> BS2 ?
>
>
> The www.emesystems.com 'Stache' module
> (see parallax.com, under Products, Accessories)
> is a small unit designed to allow you to
> download Stamp programs in the field. You
> write them to the 'stache' on your desktop,
> then take the module to the field, connect it,
> and press a button to download the program.
>
> It is $99.00, ouch. There does exist on the
> web somewhere the protocol Stamp uses for
> downloads -- I believe they have VB use it.
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "kiltjim" <kiltjim@a...> wrote:
> > Has anyone done any work with a Palm Pilot and a BS2?
> >
> > Here's my idea...
> >
> > I have a Palm m125 and a BS2. What I want to be able to do is
> upload
> > new programs to the BS2, so I can edit the program out in the
> field.
> > I am using the BS2 to control a large robot, so it makes it a
> little
> > difficult to pull the chip out take it home, and reprogram it on
my
> > computer. If I could do this with a palm pilot it would be soooo
> > much easier.
> >
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks, Jim
>
>
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regards, Jack
Allan Lane wrote:
>
> After much looking around the web, I've found:
> 1. The BS1 usually uses three pins of a DB25 parallel cable to be
> programmed -- PCOut (Pin 11, 'Busy'), PCIn (Pin 2, "D0"), and pin 25
> for ground.
> 2. The BS1 has a 'BSAVE' directive to save a 256 byte image of the
> EEPROM, which can later be downloaded into a BS1 with the stand-
> alone "BSLOAD.EXE" program (Parallax: is this program still avail?)
> 3. The BS1 DEBUG command sends a 4800 baud signal out the PCOut pin.
>
> I would have thought there would be a description of the protocol, as
> there is for the BS2 etc. I'd also think it would be fairly
> straightforward to put a logic analyzer on PCout and PCin during
> programming and figure it out. Having done that, it should be VERY
> straightforward to build a Stamp 2 based gizmo with a large external
> EEPROM and a button for downloading Stamp 1 programs.
>
> BUT -- I don't think there exists a 'canned' solution yet. Good luck.
find the BS1 programming protocol. Parallax:
is this proprietary? (I wouldn't have thought so).
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, goflo@p... wrote:
> Try "diystamp" & "Decoding the Basic Stamp" in Google.
>
> regards, Jack
>
> Allan Lane wrote:
> >
> > After much looking around the web, I've found:
> > 1. The BS1 usually uses three pins of a DB25 parallel cable to be
> > programmed -- PCOut (Pin 11, 'Busy'), PCIn (Pin 2, "D0"), and pin
25
> > for ground.
> > 2. The BS1 has a 'BSAVE' directive to save a 256 byte image of
the
> > EEPROM, which can later be downloaded into a BS1 with the stand-
> > alone "BSLOAD.EXE" program (Parallax: is this program still
avail?)
> > 3. The BS1 DEBUG command sends a 4800 baud signal out the PCOut
pin.
> >
> > I would have thought there would be a description of the
protocol, as
> > there is for the BS2 etc. I'd also think it would be fairly
> > straightforward to put a logic analyzer on PCout and PCin during
> > programming and figure it out. Having done that, it should be
VERY
> > straightforward to build a Stamp 2 based gizmo with a large
external
> > EEPROM and a button for downloading Stamp 1 programs.
> >
> > BUT -- I don't think there exists a 'canned' solution yet. Good
luck.