GSM and the stamp
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Thanks Ashfaq, Kevin, and Mike!
All of your information has helped a tremendous amount.
I think I can get the project of the ground now.
I'm sure I'll be posting again when I run into trouble [noparse];)[/noparse]
Thanks again,
-- Kyle S.
Original Message
From: "M. E. M. Electronics" <memelectronics@e...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] GSM and the stamp
> Dear Kyle,
> The GSM network is growing fast as the need to transmit/receive data
over
> cell phones is increasing. The initial GSM network was Voice Stream, now
> T-Mobile. ATT and Verizon are following very close, but due to the cost
of
> modification to existing cell networks and the economy,, this is taking
> longer than expected. There are GSM modules that interface with GPS
modules
> and form their own "cell phone" transmission devices in Europe and are
> available here. Expensive. i have used them. The GSM module uses a SIMM
> card as the means to identify the cell's ESN and time paid for use. It
> slips into the phone like a credit card and a tiny module "chicklet" type
> SIMM is used in these modules. I have a SATCELL worldwide coverage phone
> that uses this same principle. Working on a similar project right now for
a
> school bus tracker device design that is the size of a match book and will
> incorporate a GSM module in phase II. Hope this helps
> mike m
>
Original Message
> From: KamaolaKid <KamaolaKid@g...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 2:36 AM
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] GSM and the stamp
>
>
> > I've been wanting to make a GPS tracking circuit for a while now, and I
> just
> > came
> > across the GPS vehicle tracking project with the stamp.
> > I can't believe that I haven't seen this before. I was planning on
using
> my
> > BS2 anyways!
> > The project I'm talking about is here:
> > http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/resources/custapps/app_gps_track.asp
> >
> > My only problem is that I don't fully understand the ins and outs of GSM
> > communication.
> > The project lists a Siemens GSM module, but there don't apear to be any
in
> > the USA.
> > Do we have GSM capability here? (sorry if I'm extremely ignorant!)
> > I have only found information for European applications.
> >
> > How does one go about using GSM? I got the impression that you need a
> > special card that
> > tracks your usage. Do I have to sign up for an account? Can I use my
> cell
> > phone provider (verizon)?
> >
> > _Any_ information would be extremely helpful.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -- Kyle S.
> >
> >
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All of your information has helped a tremendous amount.
I think I can get the project of the ground now.
I'm sure I'll be posting again when I run into trouble [noparse];)[/noparse]
Thanks again,
-- Kyle S.
Original Message
From: "M. E. M. Electronics" <memelectronics@e...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] GSM and the stamp
> Dear Kyle,
> The GSM network is growing fast as the need to transmit/receive data
over
> cell phones is increasing. The initial GSM network was Voice Stream, now
> T-Mobile. ATT and Verizon are following very close, but due to the cost
of
> modification to existing cell networks and the economy,, this is taking
> longer than expected. There are GSM modules that interface with GPS
modules
> and form their own "cell phone" transmission devices in Europe and are
> available here. Expensive. i have used them. The GSM module uses a SIMM
> card as the means to identify the cell's ESN and time paid for use. It
> slips into the phone like a credit card and a tiny module "chicklet" type
> SIMM is used in these modules. I have a SATCELL worldwide coverage phone
> that uses this same principle. Working on a similar project right now for
a
> school bus tracker device design that is the size of a match book and will
> incorporate a GSM module in phase II. Hope this helps
> mike m
>
Original Message
> From: KamaolaKid <KamaolaKid@g...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 2:36 AM
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] GSM and the stamp
>
>
> > I've been wanting to make a GPS tracking circuit for a while now, and I
> just
> > came
> > across the GPS vehicle tracking project with the stamp.
> > I can't believe that I haven't seen this before. I was planning on
using
> my
> > BS2 anyways!
> > The project I'm talking about is here:
> > http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/resources/custapps/app_gps_track.asp
> >
> > My only problem is that I don't fully understand the ins and outs of GSM
> > communication.
> > The project lists a Siemens GSM module, but there don't apear to be any
in
> > the USA.
> > Do we have GSM capability here? (sorry if I'm extremely ignorant!)
> > I have only found information for European applications.
> >
> > How does one go about using GSM? I got the impression that you need a
> > special card that
> > tracks your usage. Do I have to sign up for an account? Can I use my
> cell
> > phone provider (verizon)?
> >
> > _Any_ information would be extremely helpful.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -- Kyle S.
> >
> >
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject
and
> Body of the message will be ignored.
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> >
>
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Comments
came
across the GPS vehicle tracking project with the stamp.
I can't believe that I haven't seen this before. I was planning on using my
BS2 anyways!
The project I'm talking about is here:
http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/resources/custapps/app_gps_track.asp
My only problem is that I don't fully understand the ins and outs of GSM
communication.
The project lists a Siemens GSM module, but there don't apear to be any in
the USA.
Do we have GSM capability here? (sorry if I'm extremely ignorant!)
I have only found information for European applications.
How does one go about using GSM? I got the impression that you need a
special card that
tracks your usage. Do I have to sign up for an account? Can I use my cell
phone provider (verizon)?
_Any_ information would be extremely helpful.
Thanks!
-- Kyle S.
I am actually the author of that project/article! I am pleased to
learn that it has generated some interest.
I will try and help you with your questions:
1. You don't necessarily have to use a Siemens module. Any GSM
module with SMS capability via an extended set of AT commands can be
used. You might want to look at modules made by Wavecom. I have not
used them, I have heard good reports about them.
2. I think that GSM is available in the US, but on a different
frequency of 1900 MHz as compared with 900/1800 MHz here in England.
But that does not matter at all,all this is completely tranparent to
the user.
3. Yes, you will need a separate account to be able to send SMS
messages (unfortunately).
Hope this helps.
Best Regards
Ashfaq
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "KamaolaKid" <KamaolaKid@g...>
wrote:
> I've been wanting to make a GPS tracking circuit for a while now,
and I just
> came
> across the GPS vehicle tracking project with the stamp.
> I can't believe that I haven't seen this before. I was planning on
using my
> BS2 anyways!
> The project I'm talking about is here:
>
http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/resources/custapps/app_gps_track.as
p
>
> My only problem is that I don't fully understand the ins and outs
of GSM
> communication.
> The project lists a Siemens GSM module, but there don't apear to be
any in
> the USA.
> Do we have GSM capability here? (sorry if I'm extremely ignorant!)
> I have only found information for European applications.
>
> How does one go about using GSM? I got the impression that you
need a
> special card that
> tracks your usage. Do I have to sign up for an account? Can I use
my cell
> phone provider (verizon)?
>
> _Any_ information would be extremely helpful.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Kyle S.
GSM is available in the US from T-Mobile and AT&T.
T-Mobile has been at it longer and at least in my area has better coverage
than AT&T.
The 'card' that you are referring to is a SIM card that you would get from
your cell provider.
It contains the info needed to get you onto the providers network and also
has your cell phone number and some storage space for an address book.
I think it's a great system since you can move between most GSM phones
simply by switching the SIM card.
SIM cards are available pre-paid (Pay up front) and post-paid (Monthly
billed).
SMS messaging included in these options varies from plan to plan.
I have a Motorla T280 GSM phone that has both IRDA and serial/USB
connectivity that I want to use in a future autonomous model airplane.
It's still a pipe dream that I'm doing research on though.
Hope this helps some,
Kevin Lavigne
Original Message
From: "ashfaqjuna" <ashfaqjuna@y...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 6:39 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GSM and the stamp
> Hello!
>
> I am actually the author of that project/article! I am pleased to
> learn that it has generated some interest.
>
> I will try and help you with your questions:
>
> 1. You don't necessarily have to use a Siemens module. Any GSM
> module with SMS capability via an extended set of AT commands can be
> used. You might want to look at modules made by Wavecom. I have not
> used them, I have heard good reports about them.
>
> 2. I think that GSM is available in the US, but on a different
> frequency of 1900 MHz as compared with 900/1800 MHz here in England.
> But that does not matter at all,all this is completely tranparent to
> the user.
>
> 3. Yes, you will need a separate account to be able to send SMS
> messages (unfortunately).
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Ashfaq
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "KamaolaKid" <KamaolaKid@g...>
> wrote:
> > I've been wanting to make a GPS tracking circuit for a while now,
> and I just
> > came
> > across the GPS vehicle tracking project with the stamp.
> > I can't believe that I haven't seen this before. I was planning on
> using my
> > BS2 anyways!
> > The project I'm talking about is here:
> >
> http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/resources/custapps/app_gps_track.as
> p
> >
> > My only problem is that I don't fully understand the ins and outs
> of GSM
> > communication.
> > The project lists a Siemens GSM module, but there don't apear to be
> any in
> > the USA.
> > Do we have GSM capability here? (sorry if I'm extremely ignorant!)
> > I have only found information for European applications.
> >
> > How does one go about using GSM? I got the impression that you
> need a
> > special card that
> > tracks your usage. Do I have to sign up for an account? Can I use
> my cell
> > phone provider (verizon)?
> >
> > _Any_ information would be extremely helpful.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -- Kyle S.
>
>
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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Body of the message will be ignored.
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>
The GSM network is growing fast as the need to transmit/receive data over
cell phones is increasing. The initial GSM network was Voice Stream, now
T-Mobile. ATT and Verizon are following very close, but due to the cost of
modification to existing cell networks and the economy,, this is taking
longer than expected. There are GSM modules that interface with GPS modules
and form their own "cell phone" transmission devices in Europe and are
available here. Expensive. i have used them. The GSM module uses a SIMM
card as the means to identify the cell's ESN and time paid for use. It
slips into the phone like a credit card and a tiny module "chicklet" type
SIMM is used in these modules. I have a SATCELL worldwide coverage phone
that uses this same principle. Working on a similar project right now for a
school bus tracker device design that is the size of a match book and will
incorporate a GSM module in phase II. Hope this helps
mike m
Original Message
From: KamaolaKid <KamaolaKid@g...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 2:36 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] GSM and the stamp
> I've been wanting to make a GPS tracking circuit for a while now, and I
just
> came
> across the GPS vehicle tracking project with the stamp.
> I can't believe that I haven't seen this before. I was planning on using
my
> BS2 anyways!
> The project I'm talking about is here:
> http://www.parallax.com/html_pages/resources/custapps/app_gps_track.asp
>
> My only problem is that I don't fully understand the ins and outs of GSM
> communication.
> The project lists a Siemens GSM module, but there don't apear to be any in
> the USA.
> Do we have GSM capability here? (sorry if I'm extremely ignorant!)
> I have only found information for European applications.
>
> How does one go about using GSM? I got the impression that you need a
> special card that
> tracks your usage. Do I have to sign up for an account? Can I use my
cell
> phone provider (verizon)?
>
> _Any_ information would be extremely helpful.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Kyle S.
>
>
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and
Body of the message will be ignored.
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