[Re: [RE: [[basicstamps] Room Mapping]]]
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I figure a number of approaches will be needed.
"Jonathan Peakall" <jpeakall@m...> wrote:
> Mike, Fred,
>
> I think the beacons are a great idea. But you might need more than the
> beacons, especially if the bot is to go room to room in a large house. Also
> it seems as if some object detection will be required, in case stuff gets
in
> the way.
>
> If the bot will do a specific route, perhaps you could do something
similar
> to the "follow the tape" thing. Instead of tape, put tiny NIB magnets along
> the path, and use linear hall sensors to follow them. Maybe use the magnets
> down hallways and the beacons in rooms, with a little object detection in
> case the dog gets in the way. I have never done such a thing, just a
> thought.
>
> Jonathan
>
> www.madlabs.info
>
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: "Mike Dillon" <laxboy687@e...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [noparse]/noparse]RE: [noparse][[/noparse][noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Room Mapping
>
>
> > Thanx Fred for the concept. Do you think I could program the bot to find
> > beacon A, once at Beacon A the bot goes to Beacon B and so on. Finally
> > when a voltage monitor sets off, the bot looks for the recharge beacon.
> > Is that possible? I wanted something like my bot going through different
> > rooms and then back to the recharge.
> >
> > Thanx again
> > -Mike
> >
Original Message
> > From: Fred Kerr (usa.net) [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=aaM5qiZjGfoGtDoInF2zlRRyYfqVSlhWI251rW_Gjsng1379uv-g5vI8sZpBXSikVCERQXU]fkerr@u...[/url
> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:32 PM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [noparse]/noparse]RE: [noparse][[/noparse][noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Room Mapping
> >
> > Sorry, I haven't built them yet. It's just a concept at present. Each
> > beacon
> > can be very inexpensive, or could get more complicated. An IR emitter
> > could
> > be mounted on a servo, or a mirror on the servo, and different codes
> > transmitted based on the angle. Small bots could even have beacon
> > transmitters.
> >
> > A beacon could use a TV remote IC, 3V, low current. Various intensities
> > might
> > be useful for detecting range (and perhaps to avoid reflections, or take
> > advantage of them too).
> >
> > The tabrobotkit yahoo group has some files on the chip that their IR
> > remotes
> > use. There are lots of chips for that, and also on the receiving end.
> > I have
> > a couple I got from Radio Shack, and 3 different ones from Jameco.
> >
> > As for visualization, consider placing a flashlight on the floor so it
> > projects a beam of light. A robot could follow the beam and determine
> > the
> > intensity. Now consider two more flashlights projecting beams that
> > intersect
> > with the other ones, to form a triangle. With signals encoded in the
> > beams,
> > the robot can tell which beam of light it is following, and what
> > direction it
> > is going, toward or away from each emitter.
> >
> > That's the rough idea; I don't know how well it might work out.
> >
> > Phil.Kruger@A... wrote:
> > > Can you be more specific about your beacons. Are they for ID of room
> > or
> > will
> > > your bot use for navigation. How did you construct? Battery? Powered
> > outlet?
> > > Inexpensive to build if I wanted bunches?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: Fred Kerr [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=aaM5qiZjGfoGtDoInF2zlRRyYfqVSlhWI251rW_Gjsng1379uv-g5vI8sZpBXSikVCERQXU]fkerr@u...[/url
> > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:42 PM
> > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse][noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Room Mapping]
> > >
> > >
> > > I think a "beacon" setup may be needed, or may simplify things a lot.
> > I'm
> > > planning to try this myself. Basically have a few IR LEDs in various
> > > locations and orientations, transmitting codes that can be
> > distinguished
> > > apart.
> > >
> > > "laxboy687" <laxboy687@e...> wrote:
> > > > Hey all,
> > > > I'm working on a project to create a bot that roams my house taking
> > > > readings (temp, Fire sensors, etc...) and then reports them back to
> > > > my computer. I realize that in order to do this, my bot would have
> > to
> > > > have a "map" of the house and where it could link up to my comp.
> > Does
> > > > anyone have any expeirince with this type of navigation? I'm using a
> >
> > > > BS2 so is this even possible?
> > > >
> > > > thanx everyone
> > > > -Mike
> > > >
> > > >
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"Jonathan Peakall" <jpeakall@m...> wrote:
> Mike, Fred,
>
> I think the beacons are a great idea. But you might need more than the
> beacons, especially if the bot is to go room to room in a large house. Also
> it seems as if some object detection will be required, in case stuff gets
in
> the way.
>
> If the bot will do a specific route, perhaps you could do something
similar
> to the "follow the tape" thing. Instead of tape, put tiny NIB magnets along
> the path, and use linear hall sensors to follow them. Maybe use the magnets
> down hallways and the beacons in rooms, with a little object detection in
> case the dog gets in the way. I have never done such a thing, just a
> thought.
>
> Jonathan
>
> www.madlabs.info
>
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: "Mike Dillon" <laxboy687@e...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [noparse]/noparse]RE: [noparse][[/noparse][noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Room Mapping
>
>
> > Thanx Fred for the concept. Do you think I could program the bot to find
> > beacon A, once at Beacon A the bot goes to Beacon B and so on. Finally
> > when a voltage monitor sets off, the bot looks for the recharge beacon.
> > Is that possible? I wanted something like my bot going through different
> > rooms and then back to the recharge.
> >
> > Thanx again
> > -Mike
> >
Original Message
> > From: Fred Kerr (usa.net) [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=aaM5qiZjGfoGtDoInF2zlRRyYfqVSlhWI251rW_Gjsng1379uv-g5vI8sZpBXSikVCERQXU]fkerr@u...[/url
> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:32 PM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [noparse]/noparse]RE: [noparse][[/noparse][noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Room Mapping
> >
> > Sorry, I haven't built them yet. It's just a concept at present. Each
> > beacon
> > can be very inexpensive, or could get more complicated. An IR emitter
> > could
> > be mounted on a servo, or a mirror on the servo, and different codes
> > transmitted based on the angle. Small bots could even have beacon
> > transmitters.
> >
> > A beacon could use a TV remote IC, 3V, low current. Various intensities
> > might
> > be useful for detecting range (and perhaps to avoid reflections, or take
> > advantage of them too).
> >
> > The tabrobotkit yahoo group has some files on the chip that their IR
> > remotes
> > use. There are lots of chips for that, and also on the receiving end.
> > I have
> > a couple I got from Radio Shack, and 3 different ones from Jameco.
> >
> > As for visualization, consider placing a flashlight on the floor so it
> > projects a beam of light. A robot could follow the beam and determine
> > the
> > intensity. Now consider two more flashlights projecting beams that
> > intersect
> > with the other ones, to form a triangle. With signals encoded in the
> > beams,
> > the robot can tell which beam of light it is following, and what
> > direction it
> > is going, toward or away from each emitter.
> >
> > That's the rough idea; I don't know how well it might work out.
> >
> > Phil.Kruger@A... wrote:
> > > Can you be more specific about your beacons. Are they for ID of room
> > or
> > will
> > > your bot use for navigation. How did you construct? Battery? Powered
> > outlet?
> > > Inexpensive to build if I wanted bunches?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: Fred Kerr [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=aaM5qiZjGfoGtDoInF2zlRRyYfqVSlhWI251rW_Gjsng1379uv-g5vI8sZpBXSikVCERQXU]fkerr@u...[/url
> > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:42 PM
> > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse][noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Room Mapping]
> > >
> > >
> > > I think a "beacon" setup may be needed, or may simplify things a lot.
> > I'm
> > > planning to try this myself. Basically have a few IR LEDs in various
> > > locations and orientations, transmitting codes that can be
> > distinguished
> > > apart.
> > >
> > > "laxboy687" <laxboy687@e...> wrote:
> > > > Hey all,
> > > > I'm working on a project to create a bot that roams my house taking
> > > > readings (temp, Fire sensors, etc...) and then reports them back to
> > > > my computer. I realize that in order to do this, my bot would have
> > to
> > > > have a "map" of the house and where it could link up to my comp.
> > Does
> > > > anyone have any expeirince with this type of navigation? I'm using a
> >
> > > > BS2 so is this even possible?
> > > >
> > > > thanx everyone
> > > > -Mike
> > > >
> > > >
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