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Cutom Cruise Control

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-02-01 12:57 in General Discussion
Hi! Please let me know if you have any suggestions!

I've been playing around with my BOE/BS2 for a few months now and
have built many weird and fun, yet pretty impractical projects. I
really want to create something that works for me regularly!

I've been considering building a cruise control system for my truck
for many years now, but could never figure out how to construct a
precision actuator that would also be safe. I'm sure that I could
figure out everything on the STAMP side, but I'll need heat-resistant
components mounted to the throttle-body on top of the engine.

My motivation for a project like this is to have a few preset buttons
on my dash for typical speeds. I'd like to be able to select a
cruising speed, no matter what my current speed is, and have the BS2
smoothly change to that speed. I'm sure you have used the cheap
factory cruise control and had to kill it because you were creeping
up on a vehicle that was driving just under the speed limit. Well,
I'd like to be able to adjust the current speed with +/- buttons to
fine-tune between the preset speeds, while engaged.

This is where the problem starts. How can I get heat tolerant
precision position control? I'm assuming that the temperature would
kill most servo motors, and solenoids alone are not accurate enough
to meet my needs.

I periodically receive a catalog in the mail for "All Electronics
Corporation" which has lots of great components to use in hobby
projects. If I had the money, I'd buy most of their catelog!
Anyway, they have push and pull type solenoids, and large gear-box
motors.

I was considering using a gear-box motor as a kind of heat-resistant
servo for how far to open the throttle, and then a solenoid that
would disengage the entire assembly when the brake peddle gets
pressed.

Please share any suggestions you may have on how I can accomplish
this control. I REALLY don't want to mess around with the
accelerator peddle. A friend suggested that I just buy an
aftermarket cruise control system, like an AudioVox, and butcher it.

Thanks!
-Derek

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-31 18:49
    The cruise control on my Cadillac allows you to increase or decrease your
    vehicle speed in 1MPH increments. Suggest you look at their implementation.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-31 19:52
    I would suggest looking again at the factory actuators. They are built to do
    the job and
    you will find a ton of them at any junk yard. I would also like to have a
    cruise control
    on my old truck and have though of doing this as well. I would like to have
    the display
    on an LCD display and also give fuel used, MPG and other data. I would like to
    have a
    function where I can press a button at certain places in my trip so that I can
    preset
    cruise for different parts of town. I would be happy to source an actuator, &
    interface
    it, if you will do the programming..

    Leroy
    Original Message
    From: <parallax@b...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:45 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Cutom Cruise Control


    : Hi! Please let me know if you have any suggestions!
    :
    : I've been playing around with my BOE/BS2 for a few months now and
    : have built many weird and fun, yet pretty impractical projects. I
    : really want to create something that works for me regularly!
    :
    : I've been considering building a cruise control system for my truck
    : for many years now, but could never figure out how to construct a
    : precision actuator that would also be safe. I'm sure that I could
    : figure out everything on the STAMP side, but I'll need heat-resistant
    : components mounted to the throttle-body on top of the engine.
    :
    : My motivation for a project like this is to have a few preset buttons
    : on my dash for typical speeds. I'd like to be able to select a
    : cruising speed, no matter what my current speed is, and have the BS2
    : smoothly change to that speed. I'm sure you have used the cheap
    : factory cruise control and had to kill it because you were creeping
    : up on a vehicle that was driving just under the speed limit. Well,
    : I'd like to be able to adjust the current speed with +/- buttons to
    : fine-tune between the preset speeds, while engaged.
    :
    : This is where the problem starts. How can I get heat tolerant
    : precision position control? I'm assuming that the temperature would
    : kill most servo motors, and solenoids alone are not accurate enough
    : to meet my needs.
    :
    : I periodically receive a catalog in the mail for "All Electronics
    : Corporation" which has lots of great components to use in hobby
    : projects. If I had the money, I'd buy most of their catelog!
    : Anyway, they have push and pull type solenoids, and large gear-box
    : motors.
    :
    : I was considering using a gear-box motor as a kind of heat-resistant
    : servo for how far to open the throttle, and then a solenoid that
    : would disengage the entire assembly when the brake peddle gets
    : pressed.
    :
    : Please share any suggestions you may have on how I can accomplish
    : this control. I REALLY don't want to mess around with the
    : accelerator peddle. A friend suggested that I just buy an
    : aftermarket cruise control system, like an AudioVox, and butcher it.
    :
    : Thanks!
    : -Derek
    :
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-31 20:04
    but could never figure out how to construct a
    precision actuator that would also be safe.

    Why bother the junk yard is full of them

    Original Message
    From: <parallax@b...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: January 31, 2003 10:45 AM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Cutom Cruise Control


    : Hi! Please let me know if you have any suggestions!
    :
    : I've been playing around with my BOE/BS2 for a few months now and
    : have built many weird and fun, yet pretty impractical projects. I
    : really want to create something that works for me regularly!
    :
    : I've been considering building a cruise control system for my truck
    : for many years now, but could never figure out how to construct a
    : precision actuator that would also be safe. I'm sure that I could
    : figure out everything on the STAMP side, but I'll need
    heat-resistant
    : components mounted to the throttle-body on top of the engine.
    :
    : My motivation for a project like this is to have a few preset
    buttons
    : on my dash for typical speeds. I'd like to be able to select a
    : cruising speed, no matter what my current speed is, and have the BS2
    : smoothly change to that speed. I'm sure you have used the cheap
    : factory cruise control and had to kill it because you were creeping
    : up on a vehicle that was driving just under the speed limit. Well,
    : I'd like to be able to adjust the current speed with +/- buttons to
    : fine-tune between the preset speeds, while engaged.
    :
    : This is where the problem starts. How can I get heat tolerant
    : precision position control? I'm assuming that the temperature would
    : kill most servo motors, and solenoids alone are not accurate enough
    : to meet my needs.
    :
    : I periodically receive a catalog in the mail for "All Electronics
    : Corporation" which has lots of great components to use in hobby
    : projects. If I had the money, I'd buy most of their catelog!
    : Anyway, they have push and pull type solenoids, and large gear-box
    : motors.
    :
    : I was considering using a gear-box motor as a kind of heat-resistant
    : servo for how far to open the throttle, and then a solenoid that
    : would disengage the entire assembly when the brake peddle gets
    : pressed.
    :
    : Please share any suggestions you may have on how I can accomplish
    : this control. I REALLY don't want to mess around with the
    : accelerator peddle. A friend suggested that I just buy an
    : aftermarket cruise control system, like an AudioVox, and butcher it.
    :
    : Thanks!
    : -Derek
    :
    :
    :
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-31 20:36
    Agree 100%%

    Leroy
    Original Message
    From: "Larry Gaminde" <lgaminde@t...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:04 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Cutom Cruise Control


    : but could never figure out how to construct a
    : precision actuator that would also be safe.
    :
    : Why bother the junk yard is full of them
    :
    :
    Original Message
    : From: <parallax@b...>
    : To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    : Sent: January 31, 2003 10:45 AM
    : Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Cutom Cruise Control
    :
    :
    : : Hi! Please let me know if you have any suggestions!
    : :
    : : I've been playing around with my BOE/BS2 for a few months now and
    : : have built many weird and fun, yet pretty impractical projects. I
    : : really want to create something that works for me regularly!
    : :
    : : I've been considering building a cruise control system for my truck
    : : for many years now, but could never figure out how to construct a
    : : precision actuator that would also be safe. I'm sure that I could
    : : figure out everything on the STAMP side, but I'll need
    : heat-resistant
    : : components mounted to the throttle-body on top of the engine.
    : :
    : : My motivation for a project like this is to have a few preset
    : buttons
    : : on my dash for typical speeds. I'd like to be able to select a
    : : cruising speed, no matter what my current speed is, and have the BS2
    : : smoothly change to that speed. I'm sure you have used the cheap
    : : factory cruise control and had to kill it because you were creeping
    : : up on a vehicle that was driving just under the speed limit. Well,
    : : I'd like to be able to adjust the current speed with +/- buttons to
    : : fine-tune between the preset speeds, while engaged.
    : :
    : : This is where the problem starts. How can I get heat tolerant
    : : precision position control? I'm assuming that the temperature would
    : : kill most servo motors, and solenoids alone are not accurate enough
    : : to meet my needs.
    : :
    : : I periodically receive a catalog in the mail for "All Electronics
    : : Corporation" which has lots of great components to use in hobby
    : : projects. If I had the money, I'd buy most of their catelog!
    : : Anyway, they have push and pull type solenoids, and large gear-box
    : : motors.
    : :
    : : I was considering using a gear-box motor as a kind of heat-resistant
    : : servo for how far to open the throttle, and then a solenoid that
    : : would disengage the entire assembly when the brake peddle gets
    : : pressed.
    : :
    : : Please share any suggestions you may have on how I can accomplish
    : : this control. I REALLY don't want to mess around with the
    : : accelerator peddle. A friend suggested that I just buy an
    : : aftermarket cruise control system, like an AudioVox, and butcher it.
    : :
    : : Thanks!
    : : -Derek
    : :
    : :
    : :
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-02-01 03:23
    I really don't advise this. If you get in an accident and the
    insurance company finds out about it, your screwed.
    There's a whole laundry list of safety/legal issues with this project.


    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "neuroburp <parallax@b...>"
    <parallax@b...> wrote:
    > Hi! Please let me know if you have any suggestions!
    >
    > I've been playing around with my BOE/BS2 for a few months now and
    > have built many weird and fun, yet pretty impractical projects. I
    > really want to create something that works for me regularly!
    >
    > I've been considering building a cruise control system for my truck
    > for many years now, but could never figure out how to construct a
    > precision actuator that would also be safe. I'm sure that I could
    > figure out everything on the STAMP side, but I'll need heat-
    resistant
    > components mounted to the throttle-body on top of the engine.
    >
    > My motivation for a project like this is to have a few preset
    buttons
    > on my dash for typical speeds. I'd like to be able to select a
    > cruising speed, no matter what my current speed is, and have the
    BS2
    > smoothly change to that speed. I'm sure you have used the cheap
    > factory cruise control and had to kill it because you were creeping
    > up on a vehicle that was driving just under the speed limit. Well,
    > I'd like to be able to adjust the current speed with +/- buttons to
    > fine-tune between the preset speeds, while engaged.
    >
    > This is where the problem starts. How can I get heat tolerant
    > precision position control? I'm assuming that the temperature
    would
    > kill most servo motors, and solenoids alone are not accurate enough
    > to meet my needs.
    >
    > I periodically receive a catalog in the mail for "All Electronics
    > Corporation" which has lots of great components to use in hobby
    > projects. If I had the money, I'd buy most of their catelog!
    > Anyway, they have push and pull type solenoids, and large gear-box
    > motors.
    >
    > I was considering using a gear-box motor as a kind of heat-
    resistant
    > servo for how far to open the throttle, and then a solenoid that
    > would disengage the entire assembly when the brake peddle gets
    > pressed.
    >
    > Please share any suggestions you may have on how I can accomplish
    > this control. I REALLY don't want to mess around with the
    > accelerator peddle. A friend suggested that I just buy an
    > aftermarket cruise control system, like an AudioVox, and butcher it.
    >
    > Thanks!
    > -Derek
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-02-01 03:33
    I believe you can still buy an add-on cruise control for most American cars
    from J. C. Whitney for about $100 or so. Back when it was a real luxury,
    even the auto parts stores sold them.

    Anyhow, every car I have owned since my '86 Isuzu I-Mark has had the +/-
    feature on the cruise. Tapping the accel or coast button once would
    increment or decrement the speed about 1 mph. Holding it longer would ramp
    the speed up or down continuously until the button was released.

    Original Message

    > I really don't advise this. If you get in an accident and the
    > insurance company finds out about it, your screwed.
    > There's a whole laundry list of safety/legal issues with this project.

    > > Hi! Please let me know if you have any suggestions!
    > >
    > > I've been playing around with my BOE/BS2 for a few months now and
    > > have built many weird and fun, yet pretty impractical projects. I
    > > really want to create something that works for me regularly!
    > >
    > > I've been considering building a cruise control system for my truck
    > > for many years now, but could never figure out how to construct a
    > > precision actuator that would also be safe. I'm sure that I could
    > > figure out everything on the STAMP side, but I'll need heat-
    > resistant
    > > components mounted to the throttle-body on top of the engine.
    > >
    > > My motivation for a project like this is to have a few preset
    > buttons
    > > on my dash for typical speeds. I'd like to be able to select a
    > > cruising speed, no matter what my current speed is, and have the
    > BS2
    > > smoothly change to that speed. I'm sure you have used the cheap
    > > factory cruise control and had to kill it because you were creeping
    > > up on a vehicle that was driving just under the speed limit. Well,
    > > I'd like to be able to adjust the current speed with +/- buttons to
    > > fine-tune between the preset speeds, while engaged.
    > >
    > > This is where the problem starts. How can I get heat tolerant
    > > precision position control? I'm assuming that the temperature
    > would
    > > kill most servo motors, and solenoids alone are not accurate enough
    > > to meet my needs.
    > >
    > > I periodically receive a catalog in the mail for "All Electronics
    > > Corporation" which has lots of great components to use in hobby
    > > projects. If I had the money, I'd buy most of their catelog!
    > > Anyway, they have push and pull type solenoids, and large gear-box
    > > motors.
    > >
    > > I was considering using a gear-box motor as a kind of heat-
    > resistant
    > > servo for how far to open the throttle, and then a solenoid that
    > > would disengage the entire assembly when the brake peddle gets
    > > pressed.
    > >
    > > Please share any suggestions you may have on how I can accomplish
    > > this control. I REALLY don't want to mess around with the
    > > accelerator peddle. A friend suggested that I just buy an
    > > aftermarket cruise control system, like an AudioVox, and butcher it.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-02-01 12:57
    A friend of mine had a Honda Civic in the 80's and
    the cruise system include a knob that would let
    him the +/- adjustments. I always thought that
    was a nice way to do it.

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    Original Message
    From: <parallax@b...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:45 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Cutom Cruise Control


    Hi! Please let me know if you have any
    suggestions!

    I've been playing around with my BOE/BS2 for a few
    months now and
    have built many weird and fun, yet pretty
    impractical projects. I
    really want to create something that works for me
    regularly!

    I've been considering building a cruise control
    system for my truck
    for many years now, but could never figure out how
    to construct a
    precision actuator that would also be safe. I'm
    sure that I could
    figure out everything on the STAMP side, but I'll
    need heat-resistant
    components mounted to the throttle-body on top of
    the engine.

    My motivation for a project like this is to have a
    few preset buttons
    on my dash for typical speeds. I'd like to be
    able to select a
    cruising speed, no matter what my current speed
    is, and have the BS2
    smoothly change to that speed. I'm sure you have
    used the cheap
    factory cruise control and had to kill it because
    you were creeping
    up on a vehicle that was driving just under the
    speed limit. Well,
    I'd like to be able to adjust the current speed
    with +/- buttons to
    fine-tune between the preset speeds, while
    engaged.

    This is where the problem starts. How can I get
    heat tolerant
    precision position control? I'm assuming that the
    temperature would
    kill most servo motors, and solenoids alone are
    not accurate enough
    to meet my needs.

    I periodically receive a catalog in the mail for
    "All Electronics
    Corporation" which has lots of great components to
    use in hobby
    projects. If I had the money, I'd buy most of
    their catelog!
    Anyway, they have push and pull type solenoids,
    and large gear-box
    motors.

    I was considering using a gear-box motor as a kind
    of heat-resistant
    servo for how far to open the throttle, and then a
    solenoid that
    would disengage the entire assembly when the brake
    peddle gets
    pressed.

    Please share any suggestions you may have on how I
    can accomplish
    this control. I REALLY don't want to mess around
    with the
    accelerator peddle. A friend suggested that I
    just buy an
    aftermarket cruise control system, like an
    AudioVox, and butcher it.

    Thanks!
    -Derek
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