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Cable and connector rating

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-01-19 23:16 in General Discussion
Can I use XLR connectors and cables to run DC 13.8V at about 25A and
using AWG 16 for my next BS2 project? Is that safe and reliable? I
am turning large DC motors and lights (using solid state relays) and
need something that is polarity sensitive, easy to plug in and out,
reliable and safe.

many thanks

Al

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-19 20:47
    "Can" implies ability. "Should" is the operative word.

    Its really bad form to use an industry standard connector for something its
    not intended for, especially if it involves power. This will eventually
    cause someone to plug the cable in where it shouldn't go, potentially hosing
    your stuff or someone else's. I can imagine someone assuming your cable is
    for low-level audio and plugging it into a mixing board.

    Case in point:

    A thrifty (read cheapskate) friend decided the electrical extension cords he
    already has would make a good, long speaker wire extension for his stereo.
    He bought the appropriate connectors and put a female 2-prong outlet on the
    stereo and a male 2-prong plug on the speakers. Works good and he is proud
    of himself for not having to buy any wire.

    Dad is sitting in his chair watching football one Sunday, and suddenly hears
    a very brief, loud buzz in the basement. As he gets to the basement door, he
    is met by a very wide-eyed 4-year-old with soiled pants. Seems his son had
    seen dad plug enough stuff in the wall outlet and figured dad forgot to plug
    the speaker.

    Original Message

    > Can I use XLR connectors and cables to run DC 13.8V at about 25A and
    > using AWG 16 for my next BS2 project? Is that safe and reliable? I
    > am turning large DC motors and lights (using solid state relays) and
    > need something that is polarity sensitive, easy to plug in and out,
    > reliable and safe.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-19 22:43
    In Australia, many operators use these connectors for auxiliary power
    outlets as a standard modification to helicopters. We protect them with 35A
    circuitbreakers, and use them for running fire buckets, or radio equipment.
    Although the pins are nice and heavy, I wouldn't recommend much over 20A
    continuous. (fire buckets draw intermittent current only). I have never seen
    one fail in that application, they are a good reliable and inexpensive
    connector and have become somewhat of an industry standard here for airborne
    auxiliary power outlets.

    AWG 16 wire is ok for 25 A if not run in a bundle, and your wire is good
    quality, however over reasonable distance, expect to see some copper
    losses!!

    Regards,

    Dwain.


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    > Can I use XLR connectors and cables to run DC 13.8V at about 25A and
    > using AWG 16 for my next BS2 project? Is that safe and reliable? I
    > am turning large DC motors and lights (using solid state relays) and
    > need something that is polarity sensitive, easy to plug in and out,
    > reliable and safe.
    >
    > many thanks
    >
    > Al
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-19 23:13
    Great to know, many thanks for your response


    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "Dwain J. Hill"
    <dwainsworld@e...> wrote:
    > In Australia, many operators use these connectors for auxiliary
    power
    > outlets as a standard modification to helicopters. We protect them
    with 35A
    > circuitbreakers, and use them for running fire buckets, or radio
    equipment.
    > Although the pins are nice and heavy, I wouldn't recommend much
    over 20A
    > continuous. (fire buckets draw intermittent current only). I have
    never seen
    > one fail in that application, they are a good reliable and
    inexpensive
    > connector and have become somewhat of an industry standard here
    for airborne
    > auxiliary power outlets.
    >
    > AWG 16 wire is ok for 25 A if not run in a bundle, and your wire
    is good
    > quality, however over reasonable distance, expect to see some
    copper
    > losses!!
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Dwain.
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: <brownstamp@y...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:08 AM
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Cable and connector rating
    >
    >
    > > Can I use XLR connectors and cables to run DC 13.8V at about 25A
    and
    > > using AWG 16 for my next BS2 project? Is that safe and
    reliable? I
    > > am turning large DC motors and lights (using solid state relays)
    and
    > > need something that is polarity sensitive, easy to plug in and
    out,
    > > reliable and safe.
    > >
    > > many thanks
    > >
    > > Al
    > >
    > >
    > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
    > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
    > > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the
    Subject and
    > Body of the message will be ignored.
    > >
    > >
    > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-19 23:16
    Very good point!

    --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > "Can" implies ability. "Should" is the operative word.
    >
    > Its really bad form to use an industry standard connector for
    something its
    > not intended for, especially if it involves power. This will
    eventually
    > cause someone to plug the cable in where it shouldn't go,
    potentially hosing
    > your stuff or someone else's. I can imagine someone assuming your
    cable is
    > for low-level audio and plugging it into a mixing board.
    >
    > Case in point:
    >
    > A thrifty (read cheapskate) friend decided the electrical
    extension cords he
    > already has would make a good, long speaker wire extension for his
    stereo.
    > He bought the appropriate connectors and put a female 2-prong
    outlet on the
    > stereo and a male 2-prong plug on the speakers. Works good and he
    is proud
    > of himself for not having to buy any wire.
    >
    > Dad is sitting in his chair watching football one Sunday, and
    suddenly hears
    > a very brief, loud buzz in the basement. As he gets to the
    basement door, he
    > is met by a very wide-eyed 4-year-old with soiled pants. Seems his
    son had
    > seen dad plug enough stuff in the wall outlet and figured dad
    forgot to plug
    > the speaker.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > Can I use XLR connectors and cables to run DC 13.8V at about 25A
    and
    > > using AWG 16 for my next BS2 project? Is that safe and
    reliable? I
    > > am turning large DC motors and lights (using solid state relays)
    and
    > > need something that is polarity sensitive, easy to plug in and
    out,
    > > reliable and safe.
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