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OT - but may come in handy...

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-01-02 17:48 in General Discussion
Hi all,

I've just removed some dead Energizer Titanium AAA size batteries from my
digital camera.

These batteries, and other batteries in the Energizer and Duracell range,
have a indicator on the side so you can see how much energy they have in
them.

Does any one know how they work?

I've just cut one off a dead battery and applied power to it to see how much
current, etc. it takes to go full scale. Figured I could use them as
indicators elsewhere...

It can draw 0.5A!!

I reckon, just by using these built in testers, you'll flatten your
battery...

Anyway, they appear to be a metalic strip, with some sort of black liquid
enclosed that goes clear upon a current going through the metalic strip.

It doesn't matter which way round the current flows, the indicator always
goes up the same way.

Is this some sort of LCD type arrangement?


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-02 11:08
    The tester is a tapered piece of resistive film and some type of chemical
    that turns clear with heat. When you press the little test buttons, current
    flows through the resistive film and generates heat, turning the black stuff
    clear. The tapered shape of the resistive film is what makes it able to
    display the percent of charge left.

    Original Message

    > I've just removed some dead Energizer Titanium AAA size batteries from my
    > digital camera.
    >
    > These batteries, and other batteries in the Energizer and Duracell range,
    > have a indicator on the side so you can see how much energy they have in
    > them.
    >
    > Does any one know how they work?
    >
    > I've just cut one off a dead battery and applied power to it to see how
    much
    > current, etc. it takes to go full scale. Figured I could use them as
    > indicators elsewhere...
    >
    > It can draw 0.5A!!
    >
    > I reckon, just by using these built in testers, you'll flatten your
    > battery...
    >
    > Anyway, they appear to be a metalic strip, with some sort of black liquid
    > enclosed that goes clear upon a current going through the metalic strip.
    >
    > It doesn't matter which way round the current flows, the indicator always
    > goes up the same way.
    >
    > Is this some sort of LCD type arrangement?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-02 11:35
    Ah yes! That explains why it works with current flowing in either
    direction...

    I just had a closer look, and yep it's tapered...


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    http://www.lennard.net.nz/
    Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE

    Electronics R&D - Kiwi Made, Innovative Electronics.

    Hm: +64 4 972 7567
    Mb: +64 21 536 627
    87 Spencer Street
    Crofton Downs
    Wellington
    New Zealand

    "To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is
    half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be."

    No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the
    Dog next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you! Those of you
    with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that
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    > From: Rodent <daweasel@s...>
    > Reply-To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 05:08:23 -0600
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] OT - but may come in handy...
    >
    > The tester is a tapered piece of resistive film and some type of chemical
    > that turns clear with heat. When you press the little test buttons, current
    > flows through the resistive film and generates heat, turning the black stuff
    > clear. The tapered shape of the resistive film is what makes it able to
    > display the percent of charge left.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    >> I've just removed some dead Energizer Titanium AAA size batteries from my
    >> digital camera.
    >>
    >> These batteries, and other batteries in the Energizer and Duracell range,
    >> have a indicator on the side so you can see how much energy they have in
    >> them.
    >>
    >> Does any one know how they work?
    >>
    >> I've just cut one off a dead battery and applied power to it to see how
    > much
    >> current, etc. it takes to go full scale. Figured I could use them as
    >> indicators elsewhere...
    >>
    >> It can draw 0.5A!!
    >>
    >> I reckon, just by using these built in testers, you'll flatten your
    >> battery...
    >>
    >> Anyway, they appear to be a metalic strip, with some sort of black liquid
    >> enclosed that goes clear upon a current going through the metalic strip.
    >>
    >> It doesn't matter which way round the current flows, the indicator always
    >> goes up the same way.
    >>
    >> Is this some sort of LCD type arrangement?
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-02 11:43
    Yup -- that's why it works the way it does -- if the battery is weak there
    is little current flow and only one end of the strip gets hot -- only part
    of the black stuff turns clear.

    Actually, the guy that invented the battery tester probably owned stock in
    the company that made mood rings and liquid crystal thermometers -- he
    wanted to find a use for all their unsold inventory.

    Original Message

    > Ah yes! That explains why it works with current flowing in either
    > direction...
    >
    > I just had a closer look, and yep it's tapered...

    > > The tester is a tapered piece of resistive film and some type of
    chemical
    > > that turns clear with heat. When you press the little test buttons,
    current
    > > flows through the resistive film and generates heat, turning the black
    stuff
    > > clear. The tapered shape of the resistive film is what makes it able to
    > > display the percent of charge left.
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >
    > >> I've just removed some dead Energizer Titanium AAA size batteries from
    my
    > >> digital camera.
    > >>
    > >> These batteries, and other batteries in the Energizer and Duracell
    range,
    > >> have a indicator on the side so you can see how much energy they have
    in
    > >> them.
    > >>
    > >> Does any one know how they work?
    > >>
    > >> I've just cut one off a dead battery and applied power to it to see how
    > > much
    > >> current, etc. it takes to go full scale. Figured I could use them as
    > >> indicators elsewhere...
    > >>
    > >> It can draw 0.5A!!
    > >>
    > >> I reckon, just by using these built in testers, you'll flatten your
    > >> battery...
    > >>
    > >> Anyway, they appear to be a metalic strip, with some sort of black
    liquid
    > >> enclosed that goes clear upon a current going through the metalic
    strip.
    > >>
    > >> It doesn't matter which way round the current flows, the indicator
    always
    > >> goes up the same way.
    > >>
    > >> Is this some sort of LCD type arrangement?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-02 17:08
    The black is carbon. The carbon heats up and the indicator is heat
    activated and the more heat the more power the battery has left. A gimmick.
    It will run the cell down very fast, but then, they want you to buy more
    cells then don't they.

    Original Message
    From: Ben [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=8TbzpksbcRStvVaJp0c0HsgVKhZe_B6Wb9fMZsSi1U5edo0X3nb9DLgVqnvfFAnOk9GWyUJFR-nOlg]ben@l...[/url
    Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:51 AM
    To: Stamps
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] OT - but may come in handy...

    Hi all,

    I've just removed some dead Energizer Titanium AAA size batteries from my
    digital camera.

    These batteries, and other batteries in the Energizer and Duracell range,
    have a indicator on the side so you can see how much energy they have in
    them.

    Does any one know how they work?

    I've just cut one off a dead battery and applied power to it to see how much
    current, etc. it takes to go full scale. Figured I could use them as
    indicators elsewhere...

    It can draw 0.5A!!

    I reckon, just by using these built in testers, you'll flatten your
    battery...

    Anyway, they appear to be a metalic strip, with some sort of black liquid
    enclosed that goes clear upon a current going through the metalic strip.

    It doesn't matter which way round the current flows, the indicator always
    goes up the same way.

    Is this some sort of LCD type arrangement?


    --

    http://www.lennard.net.nz/
    Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE

    Electronics R&D - Kiwi Made, Innovative Electronics.

    Hm: +64 4 972 7567
    Mb: +64 21 536 627
    87 Spencer Street
    Crofton Downs
    Wellington
    New Zealand

    "To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is
    half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be."

    No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the
    Dog next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you! Those of you
    with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that
    there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards.


    To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-02 17:48
    -snip-
    > Anyway, they appear to be a metalic strip, with some sort of black liquid
    > enclosed that goes clear upon a current going through the metalic strip.
    >
    > It doesn't matter which way round the current flows, the indicator always
    > goes up the same way.
    >
    > Is this some sort of LCD type arrangement?

    The chemical (black liquid) used is similar to the "MoodRings" of a few decades
    back.
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