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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-01-10 18:02 in General Discussion
Does Parallax still have an atomic time module for the Stamp? I didn't
see one on their site. If not does anyone where I could get one?

Thanks,

Rich


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-12-31 00:45
    Rich,

    I don't know if Parallax has one, but I have a cheapie method. It depends on
    if you need the actual time in data output or just synchronization. I made a
    little hillbilly device for my seismic recorder, so that I can synch events
    with other stations and calculate epicenter and so on. It actually goes to a
    data logging program on a PC not a stamp. Anyway, I took a WWBV clock
    movement, and put a photogate where the second hand passes it exactly on the
    12 o'clock spot. It is perfect for my needs, as it puts a nice mark on the
    data log every minute, so I can easily figure out what time an event
    occurred. Very cheap, reliable and resets and synchs itself automatically,
    accurate to less than a second, but only useful in some applications. I'm
    also guessing you could probe the WWBV clock board and directly tie the
    output to the stamp, eliminating the photogate and increasing the resolution
    to near perfect. Still no data output though.

    Jonathan

    www.madlabs.info



    Original Message
    From: "Richard Brull" <rich@c...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:06 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time


    > Does Parallax still have an atomic time module for the Stamp? I didn't
    > see one on their site. If not does anyone where I could get one?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Rich
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-02 15:24
    Thanks Jonathon, neat idea I may have to give it a try although I was
    hoping Parallax or somebody still made or carried these modules I
    remember seeing an ad for them in Nuts & Volts, of course that was
    before I had a project that needed them. I am building a lighting
    control panel for a customer and I would like to set it up to
    automatically adjust for time changes.

    Rich

    Original Message
    From: Jonathan Peakall [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=vP0OgYjUIJC4YEg8v0HqpllA4la3u_SW6sFJe8-rnFB0cn1NnShdO0Ln7JW_PZXSPo7LFBizK-r7S_Mqka258A]jpeakall@m...[/url
    Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:45 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time

    Rich,

    I don't know if Parallax has one, but I have a cheapie method. It
    depends on
    if you need the actual time in data output or just synchronization. I
    made a
    little hillbilly device for my seismic recorder, so that I can synch
    events
    with other stations and calculate epicenter and so on. It actually goes
    to a
    data logging program on a PC not a stamp. Anyway, I took a WWBV clock
    movement, and put a photogate where the second hand passes it exactly on
    the
    12 o'clock spot. It is perfect for my needs, as it puts a nice mark on
    the
    data log every minute, so I can easily figure out what time an event
    occurred. Very cheap, reliable and resets and synchs itself
    automatically,
    accurate to less than a second, but only useful in some applications.
    I'm
    also guessing you could probe the WWBV clock board and directly tie the
    output to the stamp, eliminating the photogate and increasing the
    resolution
    to near perfect. Still no data output though.

    Jonathan

    www.madlabs.info



    Original Message
    From: "Richard Brull" <rich@c...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:06 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time


    > Does Parallax still have an atomic time module for the Stamp? I didn't
    > see one on their site. If not does anyone where I could get one?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Rich
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-02 16:15
    Hi Rich,

    The Atomic Time Clock hasn't been available from us for over a year. If my
    memory serves me
    correctly, the manufacturer of the product faced a discontinuance of one of the
    main components and
    was no longer able to make the product. The name of the manufacturer is
    Ultralink, but I don't have
    up to date contact information.

    Erik Wood
    Parallax, Inc.
    599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
    Rocklin, CA 95765
    (916) 624-8333
    www.parallax.com

    Original Message
    From: Richard Brull [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=QjEHKWEFv_IICvH9VnWX3Pt47L5FY3E15b4G1qAhX_X_niXEqShCJ0DfwVOi8lbIrryQGSfBE7wHTQU9MfELiEA]rich@c...[/url
    Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:25 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time


    Thanks Jonathon, neat idea I may have to give it a try although I was
    hoping Parallax or somebody still made or carried these modules I
    remember seeing an ad for them in Nuts & Volts, of course that was
    before I had a project that needed them. I am building a lighting
    control panel for a customer and I would like to set it up to
    automatically adjust for time changes.

    Rich

    Original Message
    From: Jonathan Peakall [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=t8tBpx6dWdPoAUxrH8upi73C0LIww08uN0s73ZoBIm7jb5-rDFOXl4UFCypl_JW9uyr6r3OzZshWe-3H0yk]jpeakall@m...[/url
    Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:45 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time

    Rich,

    I don't know if Parallax has one, but I have a cheapie method. It
    depends on
    if you need the actual time in data output or just synchronization. I
    made a
    little hillbilly device for my seismic recorder, so that I can synch
    events
    with other stations and calculate epicenter and so on. It actually goes
    to a
    data logging program on a PC not a stamp. Anyway, I took a WWBV clock
    movement, and put a photogate where the second hand passes it exactly on
    the
    12 o'clock spot. It is perfect for my needs, as it puts a nice mark on
    the
    data log every minute, so I can easily figure out what time an event
    occurred. Very cheap, reliable and resets and synchs itself
    automatically,
    accurate to less than a second, but only useful in some applications.
    I'm
    also guessing you could probe the WWBV clock board and directly tie the
    output to the stamp, eliminating the photogate and increasing the
    resolution
    to near perfect. Still no data output though.

    Jonathan

    www.madlabs.info



    Original Message
    From: "Richard Brull" <rich@c...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:06 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time


    > Does Parallax still have an atomic time module for the Stamp? I didn't
    > see one on their site. If not does anyone where I could get one?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Rich
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-02 17:58
    Hi,

    I was asking Parallax at COMDEX about this and thats when I found they no
    longer had the module. I have been working in my present project with
    atomic clock stuff and WWVB. This is what I can tell you.
    If you go to this link:

    http://www.maplin.co.uk

    and do a search for the following items:

    MK68Y (The module)

    MK72P (The antenna)

    You will see what the module and antenna look like. They sell these parts
    for very high prices. No thanks.

    The 4 main connections on the module are power, ground, module on-off, and
    digital signal.
    The digital signal is the demodulated 60khz signal transmitted from WWVB in
    Colorado.

    There is also a place for the antenna to tack on the module as well.

    You can find info on this and the transmision specs here:

    http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/stations/wwvb.htm

    Since the signal is so weak, it is best to use an antenna with a ferrite core.

    If you go buy a cheap atomic clock (8.00 on eBay or 12.00 at WalMart) then
    you can crack it
    open and start mining for parts. I know its basically destroying a
    perfectly good clock but
    you can feel better about it justifying it in the name of science. You only
    need to cannibilize
    2 pieces anyway and if you are careful you could replace them back and the
    clock would function
    fine again anyway. (Voice of experience). The 2 parts you grab are the
    ferrite antenna which is
    all ready with capacitor attached and tuned to 60khz. Believe me, winding
    your own is a pain in
    the ***. The other part you want is the 4 connector module. It looks very
    similar to the pic at
    the Maplin site listed above.

    You can take these pieces and slap them on a breadboard. Measure the power
    at the module while
    it is still in the clock if you can because it has a low operating voltage.
    You can hook the
    digital out to an oscilliscope and see the most unpredictible signal you
    ever saw. Its not like
    the pretty bit-code picture they show at the NIST site. This is because
    the signal is weak and has
    dropouts. Thats why some atomic clocks (radio controlled - lets get that
    straight) wont even set
    themselves right off the bat. The signal is much better at night. One thing
    I am gonna guess at
    here is the little antenna looking deal on the LCD of the clock that shows
    signal strength. I dont
    see anything in the clock that is a signal strength circuit, just the
    module. So here is my therory:

    You have you software look for the start of the WWVB signal (2 80ms
    pulses). If your code is such
    that it is a 'state engine', that is if you receive a pulse that is not
    acceptable within the guidelines
    of the NIST time code, then you must start back at the beginning state,
    then the amount of acceptable pulses
    that you do receive succesively will indicate a relative signal strength.

    You must have a minute worth of acceptable pulses, after the start of the
    time code signal, in order to
    obtain all the info you need to set a clock. The signal is being
    transmitted at 1 baud or 1 bit a second.
    Anyway I am still working with this now and maybe I can come up with a
    module to approach Parallax with
    that includes the serial interface like the abandoned module did.

    I havent put everything here and would answer any questions that I can from
    my experience with this project.

    Bob

    At 08:15 AM 1/2/03 -0800, you wrote:
    >Hi Rich,
    >
    >The Atomic Time Clock hasn't been available from us for over a year. If
    my memory serves me
    >correctly, the manufacturer of the product faced a discontinuance of one
    of the main components and
    >was no longer able to make the product. The name of the manufacturer is
    Ultralink, but I don't have
    >up to date contact information.
    >
    >Erik Wood
    >
    >Parallax, Inc.
    >599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
    >Rocklin, CA 95765
    >(916) 624-8333
    >www.parallax.com
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: Richard Brull [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=jaBH0J7KWzeGg8NvFRDohj-Hiq7nP3bgnnRahOnWEYYi7mhCK2XUtpf9BdrtKfQybN7sKjIJvQ313fXv-iUnGQ]rich@c...[/url
    >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:25 AM
    >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    >
    >
    >Thanks Jonathon, neat idea I may have to give it a try although I was
    >hoping Parallax or somebody still made or carried these modules I
    >remember seeing an ad for them in Nuts & Volts, of course that was
    >before I had a project that needed them. I am building a lighting
    >control panel for a customer and I would like to set it up to
    >automatically adjust for time changes.
    >
    >Rich
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: Jonathan Peakall [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=dXo6OtI1hHc1R43p4n1Ip1Ow2FNzhKVYCk7WdfSGZOyUz-C90TT-cGoz74qP5-hSSU-D5WqqVq-xOvksAx31CA]jpeakall@m...[/url
    >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:45 PM
    >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    >
    >Rich,
    >
    >I don't know if Parallax has one, but I have a cheapie method. It
    >depends on
    >if you need the actual time in data output or just synchronization. I
    >made a
    >little hillbilly device for my seismic recorder, so that I can synch
    >events
    >with other stations and calculate epicenter and so on. It actually goes
    >to a
    >data logging program on a PC not a stamp. Anyway, I took a WWBV clock
    >movement, and put a photogate where the second hand passes it exactly on
    >the
    >12 o'clock spot. It is perfect for my needs, as it puts a nice mark on
    >the
    >data log every minute, so I can easily figure out what time an event
    >occurred. Very cheap, reliable and resets and synchs itself
    >automatically,
    >accurate to less than a second, but only useful in some applications.
    >I'm
    >also guessing you could probe the WWBV clock board and directly tie the
    >output to the stamp, eliminating the photogate and increasing the
    >resolution
    >to near perfect. Still no data output though.
    >
    >Jonathan
    >
    >www.madlabs.info
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: "Richard Brull" <rich@c...>
    >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:06 PM
    >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    >
    >
    >> Does Parallax still have an atomic time module for the Stamp? I didn't
    >> see one on their site. If not does anyone where I could get one?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >>
    >> Rich
    >>
    >>
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-02 23:02
    I found this while scanning the WWVB site -- a list of receiver
    manufacturers:

    http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/general/receiverlist.htm

    Someone had also mentioned hacking one of those analog atomic clocks and
    using the sweep hand to mark each second. I would check the documentation
    carefully before buying any of these clocks -- some of the clocks without an
    external antenna connection only attempt to acquire the time signal at
    night, when the reception is best. The rest of the time the clock is only as
    accurate as its internal timebase.

    Original Message

    > I was asking Parallax at COMDEX about this and thats when I found they no
    > longer had the module. I have been working in my present project with
    > atomic clock stuff and WWVB. This is what I can tell you.
    > If you go to this link:
    >
    > http://www.maplin.co.uk
    >
    > and do a search for the following items:
    >
    > MK68Y (The module)
    >
    > MK72P (The antenna)
    >
    > You will see what the module and antenna look like. They sell these parts
    > for very high prices. No thanks.
    >
    > The 4 main connections on the module are power, ground, module on-off, and
    > digital signal.
    > The digital signal is the demodulated 60khz signal transmitted from WWVB
    in
    > Colorado.
    >
    > There is also a place for the antenna to tack on the module as well.
    >
    > You can find info on this and the transmision specs here:
    >
    > http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/stations/wwvb.htm
    >
    > Since the signal is so weak, it is best to use an antenna with a ferrite
    core.
    >
    > If you go buy a cheap atomic clock (8.00 on eBay or 12.00 at WalMart) then
    > you can crack it
    > open and start mining for parts. I know its basically destroying a
    > perfectly good clock but
    > you can feel better about it justifying it in the name of science. You
    only
    > need to cannibilize
    > 2 pieces anyway and if you are careful you could replace them back and the
    > clock would function
    > fine again anyway. (Voice of experience). The 2 parts you grab are the
    > ferrite antenna which is
    > all ready with capacitor attached and tuned to 60khz. Believe me, winding
    > your own is a pain in
    > the ***. The other part you want is the 4 connector module. It looks very
    > similar to the pic at
    > the Maplin site listed above.
    >
    > You can take these pieces and slap them on a breadboard. Measure the power
    > at the module while
    > it is still in the clock if you can because it has a low operating
    voltage.
    > You can hook the
    > digital out to an oscilliscope and see the most unpredictible signal you
    > ever saw. Its not like
    > the pretty bit-code picture they show at the NIST site. This is because
    > the signal is weak and has
    > dropouts. Thats why some atomic clocks (radio controlled - lets get that
    > straight) wont even set
    > themselves right off the bat. The signal is much better at night. One
    thing
    > I am gonna guess at
    > here is the little antenna looking deal on the LCD of the clock that shows
    > signal strength. I dont
    > see anything in the clock that is a signal strength circuit, just the
    > module. So here is my therory:
    >
    > You have you software look for the start of the WWVB signal (2 80ms
    > pulses). If your code is such
    > that it is a 'state engine', that is if you receive a pulse that is not
    > acceptable within the guidelines
    > of the NIST time code, then you must start back at the beginning state,
    > then the amount of acceptable pulses
    > that you do receive succesively will indicate a relative signal strength.
    >
    > You must have a minute worth of acceptable pulses, after the start of the
    > time code signal, in order to
    > obtain all the info you need to set a clock. The signal is being
    > transmitted at 1 baud or 1 bit a second.
    > Anyway I am still working with this now and maybe I can come up with a
    > module to approach Parallax with
    > that includes the serial interface like the abandoned module did.
    >
    > I havent put everything here and would answer any questions that I can
    from
    > my experience with this project.
    >
    > Bob
    >
    > At 08:15 AM 1/2/03 -0800, you wrote:
    > >Hi Rich,
    > >
    > >The Atomic Time Clock hasn't been available from us for over a year. If
    > my memory serves me
    > >correctly, the manufacturer of the product faced a discontinuance of one
    > of the main components and
    > >was no longer able to make the product. The name of the manufacturer is
    > Ultralink, but I don't have
    > >up to date contact information.
    > >
    > >Erik Wood
    > >
    > >Parallax, Inc.
    > >599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
    > >Rocklin, CA 95765
    > >(916) 624-8333
    > >www.parallax.com
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >From: Richard Brull [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=Ir6tZRKaxQlP57FyzoMe7cc1--ad17ENx2U2fdPsd31Pio_InDlN7Uv_ff3GixxoXnDMtmkqRmcQPH_xFA]rich@c...[/url
    > >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:25 AM
    > >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > >Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    > >
    > >
    > >Thanks Jonathon, neat idea I may have to give it a try although I was
    > >hoping Parallax or somebody still made or carried these modules I
    > >remember seeing an ad for them in Nuts & Volts, of course that was
    > >before I had a project that needed them. I am building a lighting
    > >control panel for a customer and I would like to set it up to
    > >automatically adjust for time changes.
    > >
    > >Rich
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >From: Jonathan Peakall [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=MuHE3jwRPTKrRWUoC_0b9GOjLRHPJDFsUya06S0ZY19cJO7Z6w0Nn81qkFKUWV2HfS1CgczNxo34UnWk-ovj]jpeakall@m...[/url
    > >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:45 PM
    > >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    > >
    > >Rich,
    > >
    > >I don't know if Parallax has one, but I have a cheapie method. It
    > >depends on
    > >if you need the actual time in data output or just synchronization. I
    > >made a
    > >little hillbilly device for my seismic recorder, so that I can synch
    > >events
    > >with other stations and calculate epicenter and so on. It actually goes
    > >to a
    > >data logging program on a PC not a stamp. Anyway, I took a WWBV clock
    > >movement, and put a photogate where the second hand passes it exactly on
    > >the
    > >12 o'clock spot. It is perfect for my needs, as it puts a nice mark on
    > >the
    > >data log every minute, so I can easily figure out what time an event
    > >occurred. Very cheap, reliable and resets and synchs itself
    > >automatically,
    > >accurate to less than a second, but only useful in some applications.
    > >I'm
    > >also guessing you could probe the WWBV clock board and directly tie the
    > >output to the stamp, eliminating the photogate and increasing the
    > >resolution
    > >to near perfect. Still no data output though.
    > >
    > >Jonathan
    > >
    > >www.madlabs.info
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >From: "Richard Brull" <rich@c...>
    > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:06 PM
    > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    > >
    > >
    > >> Does Parallax still have an atomic time module for the Stamp? I didn't
    > >> see one on their site. If not does anyone where I could get one?
    > >>
    > >> Thanks,
    > >>
    > >> Rich
    > >>
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-02 23:07
    Hi,

    I have one of those analog atomic time clocks and was wondering how often
    does it receive the WWVB signal.

    Gene

    P.S. It's a hoot to watch it on the DST change twice a year!


    Give me a cup of coffee without cream; sorry, you'll have to take it without
    milk, we don't have cream.


    Original Message
    From: Rodent [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=_93t_WKqrKNa3GpffDMno9G1h_EFzq-0x1DlpktpLOqd1t5u-4pvriBbX9LJoUiEvgkprEnsyoIHVMjjp70]daweasel@s...[/url
    Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:02 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time


    I found this while scanning the WWVB site -- a list of receiver
    manufacturers:

    http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/general/receiverlist.htm

    Someone had also mentioned hacking one of those analog atomic clocks and
    using the sweep hand to mark each second. I would check the documentation
    carefully before buying any of these clocks -- some of the clocks without an
    external antenna connection only attempt to acquire the time signal at
    night, when the reception is best. The rest of the time the clock is only as
    accurate as its internal timebase.

    Original Message

    > I was asking Parallax at COMDEX about this and thats when I found they no
    > longer had the module. I have been working in my present project with
    > atomic clock stuff and WWVB. This is what I can tell you.
    > If you go to this link:
    >
    > http://www.maplin.co.uk
    >
    > and do a search for the following items:
    >
    > MK68Y (The module)
    >
    > MK72P (The antenna)
    >
    > You will see what the module and antenna look like. They sell these parts
    > for very high prices. No thanks.
    >
    > The 4 main connections on the module are power, ground, module on-off, and
    > digital signal.
    > The digital signal is the demodulated 60khz signal transmitted from WWVB
    in
    > Colorado.
    >
    > There is also a place for the antenna to tack on the module as well.
    >
    > You can find info on this and the transmision specs here:
    >
    > http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/stations/wwvb.htm
    >
    > Since the signal is so weak, it is best to use an antenna with a ferrite
    core.
    >
    > If you go buy a cheap atomic clock (8.00 on eBay or 12.00 at WalMart) then
    > you can crack it
    > open and start mining for parts. I know its basically destroying a
    > perfectly good clock but
    > you can feel better about it justifying it in the name of science. You
    only
    > need to cannibilize
    > 2 pieces anyway and if you are careful you could replace them back and the
    > clock would function
    > fine again anyway. (Voice of experience). The 2 parts you grab are the
    > ferrite antenna which is
    > all ready with capacitor attached and tuned to 60khz. Believe me, winding
    > your own is a pain in
    > the ***. The other part you want is the 4 connector module. It looks very
    > similar to the pic at
    > the Maplin site listed above.
    >
    > You can take these pieces and slap them on a breadboard. Measure the power
    > at the module while
    > it is still in the clock if you can because it has a low operating
    voltage.
    > You can hook the
    > digital out to an oscilliscope and see the most unpredictible signal you
    > ever saw. Its not like
    > the pretty bit-code picture they show at the NIST site. This is because
    > the signal is weak and has
    > dropouts. Thats why some atomic clocks (radio controlled - lets get that
    > straight) wont even set
    > themselves right off the bat. The signal is much better at night. One
    thing
    > I am gonna guess at
    > here is the little antenna looking deal on the LCD of the clock that shows
    > signal strength. I dont
    > see anything in the clock that is a signal strength circuit, just the
    > module. So here is my therory:
    >
    > You have you software look for the start of the WWVB signal (2 80ms
    > pulses). If your code is such
    > that it is a 'state engine', that is if you receive a pulse that is not
    > acceptable within the guidelines
    > of the NIST time code, then you must start back at the beginning state,
    > then the amount of acceptable pulses
    > that you do receive succesively will indicate a relative signal strength.
    >
    > You must have a minute worth of acceptable pulses, after the start of the
    > time code signal, in order to
    > obtain all the info you need to set a clock. The signal is being
    > transmitted at 1 baud or 1 bit a second.
    > Anyway I am still working with this now and maybe I can come up with a
    > module to approach Parallax with
    > that includes the serial interface like the abandoned module did.
    >
    > I havent put everything here and would answer any questions that I can
    from
    > my experience with this project.
    >
    > Bob
    >
    > At 08:15 AM 1/2/03 -0800, you wrote:
    > >Hi Rich,
    > >
    > >The Atomic Time Clock hasn't been available from us for over a year. If
    > my memory serves me
    > >correctly, the manufacturer of the product faced a discontinuance of one
    > of the main components and
    > >was no longer able to make the product. The name of the manufacturer is
    > Ultralink, but I don't have
    > >up to date contact information.
    > >
    > >Erik Wood
    > >
    > >Parallax, Inc.
    > >599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
    > >Rocklin, CA 95765
    > >(916) 624-8333
    > >www.parallax.com
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >From: Richard Brull [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=1oslMIDvaXxDuDSdLa2POsK9QatA7iBykQglOI03PDfc21HnM32jyN9JjK1yPF2OATqQ_O_VqG-Z6pIwKvgdNdo]rich@c...[/url
    > >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:25 AM
    > >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > >Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    > >
    > >
    > >Thanks Jonathon, neat idea I may have to give it a try although I was
    > >hoping Parallax or somebody still made or carried these modules I
    > >remember seeing an ad for them in Nuts & Volts, of course that was
    > >before I had a project that needed them. I am building a lighting
    > >control panel for a customer and I would like to set it up to
    > >automatically adjust for time changes.
    > >
    > >Rich
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >From: Jonathan Peakall [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=-hfzsv8bA7RKjsHWFSA4GcP8FqkLavjAVt6AW66Drk-Q9kVLMY1WvjxdxmbsLaOLMWS-UyHBNuPK-_mzCGo]jpeakall@m...[/url
    > >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:45 PM
    > >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    > >
    > >Rich,
    > >
    > >I don't know if Parallax has one, but I have a cheapie method. It
    > >depends on
    > >if you need the actual time in data output or just synchronization. I
    > >made a
    > >little hillbilly device for my seismic recorder, so that I can synch
    > >events
    > >with other stations and calculate epicenter and so on. It actually goes
    > >to a
    > >data logging program on a PC not a stamp. Anyway, I took a WWBV clock
    > >movement, and put a photogate where the second hand passes it exactly on
    > >the
    > >12 o'clock spot. It is perfect for my needs, as it puts a nice mark on
    > >the
    > >data log every minute, so I can easily figure out what time an event
    > >occurred. Very cheap, reliable and resets and synchs itself
    > >automatically,
    > >accurate to less than a second, but only useful in some applications.
    > >I'm
    > >also guessing you could probe the WWBV clock board and directly tie the
    > >output to the stamp, eliminating the photogate and increasing the
    > >resolution
    > >to near perfect. Still no data output though.
    > >
    > >Jonathan
    > >
    > >www.madlabs.info
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >From: "Richard Brull" <rich@c...>
    > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:06 PM
    > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    > >
    > >
    > >> Does Parallax still have an atomic time module for the Stamp? I didn't
    > >> see one on their site. If not does anyone where I could get one?
    > >>
    > >> Thanks,
    > >>
    > >> Rich
    > >>
    > >>
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-03 12:30
    Hi,
    My clocks say they receive signal 4 times a day although I can't verify it
    because once
    the inital sync happens, the antenna LCD pic stays full as if to indicate
    lock.
    If you make your own from a ready made clock and use the module, it will
    continue to receive
    as long as you apply the 'module on' signal.

    I have looked at that receiver list from NIST before but it all came back
    to the same issue
    of having to saw off an arm or leg for price. I would love to get my hands
    on those little
    antennas that are in the wristwatch though [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    Bob



    At 05:07 PM 1/2/03 -0600, you wrote:
    >Hi,
    >
    >I have one of those analog atomic time clocks and was wondering how often
    >does it receive the WWVB signal.
    >
    >Gene
    >
    >P.S. It's a hoot to watch it on the DST change twice a year!
    >
    >
    >Give me a cup of coffee without cream; sorry, you'll have to take it without
    >milk, we don't have cream.
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: Rodent [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=kacBnOYtYQef42iLm27PKjV9ha3-Wj31OgAAgJnCzd6mZp9fo8n_RCMZ4kMkn4M5tCaiHdI6Fv9Idu9iCw]daweasel@s...[/url
    >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:02 PM
    >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    >
    >
    >I found this while scanning the WWVB site -- a list of receiver
    >manufacturers:
    >
    >http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/general/receiverlist.htm
    >
    >Someone had also mentioned hacking one of those analog atomic clocks and
    >using the sweep hand to mark each second. I would check the documentation
    >carefully before buying any of these clocks -- some of the clocks without an
    >external antenna connection only attempt to acquire the time signal at
    >night, when the reception is best. The rest of the time the clock is only as
    >accurate as its internal timebase.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    >> I was asking Parallax at COMDEX about this and thats when I found they no
    >> longer had the module. I have been working in my present project with
    >> atomic clock stuff and WWVB. This is what I can tell you.
    >> If you go to this link:
    >>
    >> http://www.maplin.co.uk
    >>
    >> and do a search for the following items:
    >>
    >> MK68Y (The module)
    >>
    >> MK72P (The antenna)
    >>
    >> You will see what the module and antenna look like. They sell these parts
    >> for very high prices. No thanks.
    >>
    >> The 4 main connections on the module are power, ground, module on-off, and
    >> digital signal.
    >> The digital signal is the demodulated 60khz signal transmitted from WWVB
    >in
    >> Colorado.
    >>
    >> There is also a place for the antenna to tack on the module as well.
    >>
    >> You can find info on this and the transmision specs here:
    >>
    >> http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/stations/wwvb.htm
    >>
    >> Since the signal is so weak, it is best to use an antenna with a ferrite
    >core.
    >>
    >> If you go buy a cheap atomic clock (8.00 on eBay or 12.00 at WalMart) then
    >> you can crack it
    >> open and start mining for parts. I know its basically destroying a
    >> perfectly good clock but
    >> you can feel better about it justifying it in the name of science. You
    >only
    >> need to cannibilize
    >> 2 pieces anyway and if you are careful you could replace them back and the
    >> clock would function
    >> fine again anyway. (Voice of experience). The 2 parts you grab are the
    >> ferrite antenna which is
    >> all ready with capacitor attached and tuned to 60khz. Believe me, winding
    >> your own is a pain in
    >> the ***. The other part you want is the 4 connector module. It looks very
    >> similar to the pic at
    >> the Maplin site listed above.
    >>
    >> You can take these pieces and slap them on a breadboard. Measure the power
    >> at the module while
    >> it is still in the clock if you can because it has a low operating
    >voltage.
    >> You can hook the
    >> digital out to an oscilliscope and see the most unpredictible signal you
    >> ever saw. Its not like
    >> the pretty bit-code picture they show at the NIST site. This is because
    >> the signal is weak and has
    >> dropouts. Thats why some atomic clocks (radio controlled - lets get that
    >> straight) wont even set
    >> themselves right off the bat. The signal is much better at night. One
    >thing
    >> I am gonna guess at
    >> here is the little antenna looking deal on the LCD of the clock that shows
    >> signal strength. I dont
    >> see anything in the clock that is a signal strength circuit, just the
    >> module. So here is my therory:
    >>
    >> You have you software look for the start of the WWVB signal (2 80ms
    >> pulses). If your code is such
    >> that it is a 'state engine', that is if you receive a pulse that is not
    >> acceptable within the guidelines
    >> of the NIST time code, then you must start back at the beginning state,
    >> then the amount of acceptable pulses
    >> that you do receive succesively will indicate a relative signal strength.
    >>
    >> You must have a minute worth of acceptable pulses, after the start of the
    >> time code signal, in order to
    >> obtain all the info you need to set a clock. The signal is being
    >> transmitted at 1 baud or 1 bit a second.
    >> Anyway I am still working with this now and maybe I can come up with a
    >> module to approach Parallax with
    >> that includes the serial interface like the abandoned module did.
    >>
    >> I havent put everything here and would answer any questions that I can
    >from
    >> my experience with this project.
    >>
    >> Bob
    >>
    >> At 08:15 AM 1/2/03 -0800, you wrote:
    >> >Hi Rich,
    >> >
    >> >The Atomic Time Clock hasn't been available from us for over a year. If
    >> my memory serves me
    >> >correctly, the manufacturer of the product faced a discontinuance of one
    >> of the main components and
    >> >was no longer able to make the product. The name of the manufacturer is
    >> Ultralink, but I don't have
    >> >up to date contact information.
    >> >
    >> >Erik Wood
    >> >
    >> >Parallax, Inc.
    >> >599 Menlo Dr., Suite #100
    >> >Rocklin, CA 95765
    >> >(916) 624-8333
    >> >www.parallax.com
    >> >
    >> >
    Original Message
    >> >From: Richard Brull [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=tzbKmyJI-SjxI1iPgg4MW7q4oqmz-sdcc-SEIgcvv7DeldlwMpLsJ581mdcDkY5ceVVD8EYlaGuH61sZ3MtfV0A]rich@c...[/url
    >> >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:25 AM
    >> >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >> >Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >Thanks Jonathon, neat idea I may have to give it a try although I was
    >> >hoping Parallax or somebody still made or carried these modules I
    >> >remember seeing an ad for them in Nuts & Volts, of course that was
    >> >before I had a project that needed them. I am building a lighting
    >> >control panel for a customer and I would like to set it up to
    >> >automatically adjust for time changes.
    >> >
    >> >Rich
    >> >
    >> >
    Original Message
    >> >From: Jonathan Peakall [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=NYU_xH5ky-494hQl9QzSmFTHr7Y3EubKEoxD2Y5hu6B9AM334iTDYNL9AnGtXRIR-A1qFbyE3qMshE0mdA]jpeakall@m...[/url
    >> >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:45 PM
    >> >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >> >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    >> >
    >> >Rich,
    >> >
    >> >I don't know if Parallax has one, but I have a cheapie method. It
    >> >depends on
    >> >if you need the actual time in data output or just synchronization. I
    >> >made a
    >> >little hillbilly device for my seismic recorder, so that I can synch
    >> >events
    >> >with other stations and calculate epicenter and so on. It actually goes
    >> >to a
    >> >data logging program on a PC not a stamp. Anyway, I took a WWBV clock
    >> >movement, and put a photogate where the second hand passes it exactly on
    >> >the
    >> >12 o'clock spot. It is perfect for my needs, as it puts a nice mark on
    >> >the
    >> >data log every minute, so I can easily figure out what time an event
    >> >occurred. Very cheap, reliable and resets and synchs itself
    >> >automatically,
    >> >accurate to less than a second, but only useful in some applications.
    >> >I'm
    >> >also guessing you could probe the WWBV clock board and directly tie the
    >> >output to the stamp, eliminating the photogate and increasing the
    >> >resolution
    >> >to near perfect. Still no data output though.
    >> >
    >> >Jonathan
    >> >
    >> >www.madlabs.info
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    Original Message
    >> >From: "Richard Brull" <rich@c...>
    >> >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    >> >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:06 PM
    >> >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Atomic Time
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >> Does Parallax still have an atomic time module for the Stamp? I didn't
    >> >> see one on their site. If not does anyone where I could get one?
    >> >>
    >> >> Thanks,
    >> >>
    >> >> Rich
    >> >>
    >> >>
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-09 07:54
    The folks at www.arctime.com have a wwv clock that has a serial port
    built in. They think it's for setting the time on a PC, but there is
    no reason you couldn't use this with a stamp.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-09 11:55
    If they have all these different kinds of clocks that use WWV.
    Then there must be some kind of WWV receiver IC chips out there someplace.
    I wonder what all the atomic clocks are using then.

    Original Message
    From: Mphil <font_mark@y...> [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=TjuHloMMnPu6KqF3LpTXKI7boIAVx8vxBVeTllYxCWvmEOJdJXBEODIuJDmKTl3ykG3lh9KeLXnTScQ]font_mark@y...[/url
    Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:55 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Atomic Time


    The folks at www.arctime.com have a wwv clock that has a serial port
    built in. They think it's for setting the time on a PC, but there is
    no reason you couldn't use this with a stamp.


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-09 13:40
    Which unit has the serial port

    Original Message
    From: Mphil <font_mark@y...> [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ffb6RFGQgt4sCeDdx_UGdYLVKo2bAWpckZClRXnyMuTgkZCWNTLvHfPelBEReYsPC5VIPKz0peumiQ]font_mark@y...[/url
    Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:55 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Atomic Time

    The folks at www.arctime.com have a wwv clock that has a serial port
    built in. They think it's for setting the time on a PC, but there is
    no reason you couldn't use this with a stamp.


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-10 14:38
    After some searching on the web I did find this company
    www.galleon.eu.com that sells the OEM receivers with an rs232 output. I
    will probably purchase one to try out with the Stamp.

    Here is the pricing they sent me:

    Antenna = 8.12
    EM2s = 23.98
    MCM RS232 = 26.92

    All for quantities of one.

    Thanks for all the help,

    Rich

    Original Message
    From: Earl Bollinger [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ookl3Q6u0zOkaekJB-dkwivL8QBNJhirOJy8rCXHzt11-KZnF1So6qB8W-ejzckIqiH7u0be5G_s0nDzfJ2U]earlwbollinger@a...[/url
    Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:56 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Atomic Time

    If they have all these different kinds of clocks that use WWV.
    Then there must be some kind of WWV receiver IC chips out there
    someplace.
    I wonder what all the atomic clocks are using then.

    Original Message
    From: Mphil <font_mark@y...> [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=-k8rcO5w4qBA9nz7ptjHxVw3ZPENcd7GnRPKW7JYJfnNAKti0gLI0rMer5TkYbP13Ghly3tT7jjBCg]font_mark@y...[/url
    Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:55 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Atomic Time


    The folks at www.arctime.com have a wwv clock that has a serial port
    built in. They think it's for setting the time on a PC, but there is
    no reason you couldn't use this with a stamp.


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-10 14:45
    This is what I had stated that the individual parts were so high. Thats why I
    got cheap atomic clocks and canibilized them. I robbed the antenna (already
    tuned)
    and the EM2s type module (they all have same pinouts as I have seen). Then
    all you
    have to do is bring the pulses into the stamp from the digital out of the
    module
    and measure the pulse width and match up to the time code protocol that
    NIST provides.
    The only thing different is that there is no RS-232, but once you get the
    time in
    who needs RS232?
    Bob



    At 08:38 AM 1/10/03 -0600, you wrote:
    >After some searching on the web I did find this company
    >www.galleon.eu.com that sells the OEM receivers with an rs232 output. I
    >will probably purchase one to try out with the Stamp.
    >
    >Here is the pricing they sent me:
    >
    >Antenna = 8.12
    >EM2s = 23.98
    >MCM RS232 = 26.92
    >
    >All for quantities of one.
    >
    >Thanks for all the help,
    >
    >Rich
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: Earl Bollinger [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=LWUYPymr4G2lj_PcZidod5yQou6P4GaOsOl3bR1jC25sIqBsnZvPtb6DwRljA_h3b2ja4n8kHVp7dWOF5vFDXkg]earlwbollinger@a...[/url
    >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:56 AM
    >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Atomic Time
    >
    >If they have all these different kinds of clocks that use WWV.
    >Then there must be some kind of WWV receiver IC chips out there
    >someplace.
    >I wonder what all the atomic clocks are using then.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: Mphil <font_mark@y...> [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=a29OazT64CzeXDR0L3iY74s1uCNTCZyjIx2OXJn0xW7oLYhAlFPutm5hINPUmSwSoO9XKeGni9V7vmLz6w]font_mark@y...[/url
    >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:55 AM
    >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Atomic Time
    >
    >
    >The folks at www.arctime.com have a wwv clock that has a serial port
    >built in. They think it's for setting the time on a PC, but there is
    >no reason you couldn't use this with a stamp.
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2003-01-10 18:02
    Would you mind sharing some code with the group?

    Thanks,
    Warren

    Original Message
    From: tesla@i... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=nT_0YJN0vkpE5QO4cw9nDGOyOY53WsfnxVuPsvRO1K2l6WBdyxuVLo_Nrdr9tMjnCnmqK54xIw]tesla@i...[/url
    Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:45 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Atomic Time



    This is what I had stated that the individual parts were so high. Thats why
    I
    got cheap atomic clocks and canibilized them. I robbed the antenna (already
    tuned)
    and the EM2s type module (they all have same pinouts as I have seen). Then
    all you
    have to do is bring the pulses into the stamp from the digital out of the
    module
    and measure the pulse width and match up to the time code protocol that
    NIST provides.
    The only thing different is that there is no RS-232, but once you get the
    time in
    who needs RS232?
    Bob



    At 08:38 AM 1/10/03 -0600, you wrote:
    >After some searching on the web I did find this company
    >www.galleon.eu.com that sells the OEM receivers with an rs232 output. I
    >will probably purchase one to try out with the Stamp.
    >
    >Here is the pricing they sent me:
    >
    >Antenna = 8.12
    >EM2s = 23.98
    >MCM RS232 = 26.92
    >
    >All for quantities of one.
    >
    >Thanks for all the help,
    >
    >Rich
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: Earl Bollinger [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ASsFoqR9WxbL8TJqDGeGdIWYpEMDWUtK1tu9FQ32FOk8uGO6xzYV5MJ2IcCK9kDOBT_GNXvZGv2ZNcR1WvwUL07K]earlwbollinger@a...[/url
    >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:56 AM
    >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Atomic Time
    >
    >If they have all these different kinds of clocks that use WWV.
    >Then there must be some kind of WWV receiver IC chips out there
    >someplace.
    >I wonder what all the atomic clocks are using then.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >From: Mphil <font_mark@y...> [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=-oCQvN9RjJGbBouKfl2VtjinJEA3SIamKbsuaz1R6Q91MXvBD58GORvZRdQ2i7JyEnS-9P78fstT3l-T0w]font_mark@y...[/url
    >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:55 AM
    >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Atomic Time
    >
    >
    >The folks at www.arctime.com have a wwv clock that has a serial port
    >built in. They think it's for setting the time on a PC, but there is
    >no reason you couldn't use this with a stamp.
    >
    >
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