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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2002-12-05 19:14 in General Discussion
I am very interested in robotics. I am a sophomore in highschool and
i am looking into a career in robotics. But, I don't exactly know
what im looking for here. I think the career that i'm looking for is
robotics engineering. What kind of education do i need in college?
Are there any colleges in the US that have a robotics engineering
program or do i need to go in to Mechanical or Electrical
engineering? Thanks for any help.

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-11-30 00:22
    Robotics research and courses at many universities can be found in
    specialized laboratories (and sometimes Institutes) which are
    interdisciplinary, often combining electrical, mechanical, and
    biomedical engineering departments, in addition to computer science.
    Here is one example: http://www-robotics.usc.edu/ at USC, Los Angeles
    CA. Students choose to major in a traditional department in a field
    that interests them most, and then take elective courses, or help out on
    research projects, through contacting professors in robotics-oriented
    laboratories. It is also possible to minor in robotics at some
    universities, as described at Carnegie-Mellon U at
    http://www.ri.cmu.edu/. Visiting a robotics research lab is a good
    idea, and usually welcomed by the professors there. If you live near a
    university, consider investigating what is available there, either
    through their website, or by phone.

    You will often find fascinating research in these laboratories that is
    really cutting edge. I once needed a very specialized miniature circuit
    for RF telemetry in my biomedical research, that wasn't available
    anywhere. I found a laboratory at UCLA that could produce it. When it
    was ready, the lead engineer handed it to me and said "this is 5 years
    ahead of industry, and 1 year ahead of JPL (Jet Propulsion Labs)." He
    was right.

    Dennis

    Dennis P O'Leary PhD
    Professor
    USC
    Los Angeles, CA

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    I am very interested in robotics. I am a sophomore in highschool and
    i am looking into a career in robotics. But, I don't exactly know
    what im looking for here. I think the career that i'm looking for is
    robotics engineering. What kind of education do i need in college?
    Are there any colleges in the US that have a robotics engineering
    program or do i need to go in to Mechanical or Electrical
    engineering? Thanks for any help.


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-11-30 03:23
    Go to MIT and get at least a Masters in Electrical and minor in
    Mechanical engineering, and start building robots now...

    Beware of quick robotics schools, trade schools etc. Anb advanced
    degree from MIT will get you what ever you want.

    Oh and start Aceing your math classes now, it's hard to get into MIT!

    --- In basicstamps@y..., "duncanla22" <Duncanla@c...> wrote:
    > I am very interested in robotics. I am a sophomore in highschool
    and
    > i am looking into a career in robotics. But, I don't exactly know
    > what im looking for here. I think the career that i'm looking for
    is
    > robotics engineering. What kind of education do i need in college?
    > Are there any colleges in the US that have a robotics engineering
    > program or do i need to go in to Mechanical or Electrical
    > engineering? Thanks for any help.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-12-01 00:58
    --- kvasilak <my427v8@h...> wrote:
    > Go to MIT and get at least a Masters in Electrical
    <snip?
    > Oh and start Aceing your math classes now, it's hard
    > to get into MIT!

    yea, so let's talk reality. There are plenty of
    opportunities in automation without going to MIT.

    A sophmore in high school shouldn't be limiting
    him/herself to a disipline at that age anyways, IMO.

    Grab a stamp, start goofing around, take a class on
    analog (i.e., tubes) technology, build from there.
    Robots are automation used in industry, and if there
    isn't any industry you won't have a job if you limit
    yourself to that.

    The best combination of education I've seen in
    industry is IE and and MBA. So go do the
    thermaldynamics then do the econ. Or do the econ then
    the thermal . . . you get the point.

    > --- In basicstamps@y..., "duncanla22"
    > <Duncanla@c...> wrote:
    > > I am very interested in robotics. I am a sophomore
    > in highschool
    > and
    > > i am looking into a career in robotics. But, I
    > don't exactly know
    > > what im looking for here. I think the career that
    > i'm looking for
    > is
    > > robotics engineering. What kind of education do i
    > need in college?
    > > Are there any colleges in the US that have a
    > robotics engineering
    > > program or do i need to go in to Mechanical or
    > Electrical
    > > engineering? Thanks for any help.
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-12-01 15:50
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., "duncanla22"
    > <Duncanla@c...> wrote:
    > > I am very interested in robotics. I am a sophomore
    > in highschool
    > and
    > > i am looking into a career in robotics. But, I
    > don't exactly know
    > > what im looking for here. I think the career that
    > i'm looking for
    > is
    > > robotics engineering. What kind of education do i
    > need in college?
    > > Are there any colleges in the US that have a
    > robotics engineering
    > > program or do i need to go in to Mechanical or
    > Electrical
    > > engineering? Thanks for any help.

    A very good start to your career as a Robotic Engineer is to look into the
    FIRST Program.
    <A HREF="www.usfirst.org">www.usfirst.org</A>
    This is a constructive Robotics Competition geared to High School Students.
    (Don't get this concused with Robot Wars ant that other WWF type of robotics
    junk on cable tv)

    Stdents form a team to build a robot and enter it in regional and nationwide
    competitions.

    If your school dosent have a team you can look into other local teams in your
    area, or start one at your school.
    This is a very good start. Dean Kaman, the founder of FIRST (inventer of the
    Segway), wanted to let kids know that Science os Cool. Ther are more
    technocal jobs than there are Professional Sports Jobs.

    Good Luck
    Alan Bradford
    Plasam Technologies
    Former coach FIRST Lebanon Robotics Team #95


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-12-01 19:08
    Hello there,

    I agree with Alan...I think FIRST (or for people in Canada, CanadaFIRST) is
    a
    great experience and opportunity to learn about building robotics first
    hand.
    Usually teams from school build a robot for specific task and compete
    against
    agsinst schools. Competition can range from collecting balls and placing
    them
    in to different containers and etc. If your school doesn't have, like Alan
    mentioned
    it is definitely worth starting one. I'm a FIRST mentor for one our local
    highschools
    in Toronto.

    In terms of education and preparation, I think I believe the best way to
    approach
    robotics is that you have to get out there and try it out...get yourself a
    simple
    controller and make small little gadgets. Along the way, you'll find
    yourself more
    attracted to certain areas of the work and that will help guide you in your
    course
    of studies in the future. So if you find yourself enjoying working with
    motors and
    mechanisms then mechnical engineering supplemented with some electrical
    couses.
    If you enjoy hooking up the controller, building circuits and sensors then
    you may
    want to consider electrical engineering. I think computer engineering is
    little too
    focused on programming to have an appreciation on the hardware unless you
    find
    yourself interested in AI and algorithm design.

    Hope that helps,
    Thomas


    >
    > A very good start to your career as a Robotic Engineer is to look into the
    > FIRST Program.
    > <A HREF="www.usfirst.org">www.usfirst.org</A>
    > This is a constructive Robotics Competition geared to High School
    Students.
    > (Don't get this concused with Robot Wars ant that other WWF type of
    robotics
    > junk on cable tv)
    >
    > Stdents form a team to build a robot and enter it in regional and
    nationwide
    > competitions.
    >
    > If your school dosent have a team you can look into other local teams in
    your
    > area, or start one at your school.
    > This is a very good start. Dean Kaman, the founder of FIRST (inventer of
    the
    > Segway), wanted to let kids know that Science os Cool. Ther are more
    > technocal jobs than there are Professional Sports Jobs.
    >
    > Good Luck
    > Alan Bradford
    > Plasam Technologies
    > Former coach FIRST Lebanon Robotics Team #95
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-12-01 22:14
    This is good advice. Career-level robotics will benefit from obtaining
    a solid engineering education into latest technologies, such as
    nanotechnology and its variations, which aren't mature fields yet.

    Dennis

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    Hello there,

    I agree with Alan...I think FIRST (or for people in Canada, CanadaFIRST)
    is a great experience and opportunity to learn about building robotics
    first hand. Usually teams from school build a robot for specific task
    and compete against agsinst schools. Competition can range from
    collecting balls and placing them in to different containers and etc. If
    your school doesn't have, like Alan mentioned it is definitely worth
    starting one. I'm a FIRST mentor for one our local highschools in
    Toronto.

    In terms of education and preparation, I think I believe the best way to
    approach robotics is that you have to get out there and try it out...get
    yourself a simple controller and make small little gadgets. Along the
    way, you'll find yourself more attracted to certain areas of the work
    and that will help guide you in your course of studies in the future. So
    if you find yourself enjoying working with motors and mechanisms then
    mechnical engineering supplemented with some electrical couses. If you
    enjoy hooking up the controller, building circuits and sensors then you
    may want to consider electrical engineering. I think computer
    engineering is little too focused on programming to have an appreciation
    on the hardware unless you find yourself interested in AI and algorithm
    design.

    Hope that helps,
    Thomas
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-12-02 01:40
    One thing many people mention is their lack of skill / ability / resources
    in building the robotic mechanical hardware. I know quite a few folks who
    are the cats meow as far as electronic hardware and code, but their robots
    are very fragile / trouble-prone because they can't put together a decent
    chassis.

    The First and Best competitions are good in this respect because most of the
    problem-solving involves mechanical solutions and not hardware / software.
    This, plus taking as much math, physics and maybe some shop classes (do they
    still teach this stuff in high school??) will give you a better chance at
    success.

    Keep in mind your first couple of years in college are usually spent doing
    the basics, and while much of it does not apply to your field of study, it
    does make you a better person and hopefully teaches you to work hard at
    stuff you really don't care about. On the other hand, I did spend 21
    glorious days traveling and drinking beer in England to complete a
    humanities class I put off until my senior year of college.

    Original Message

    > This is good advice. Career-level robotics will benefit from obtaining
    > a solid engineering education into latest technologies, such as
    > nanotechnology and its variations, which aren't mature fields yet.

    > I agree with Alan...I think FIRST (or for people in Canada, CanadaFIRST)
    > is a great experience and opportunity to learn about building robotics
    > first hand. Usually teams from school build a robot for specific task
    > and compete against agsinst schools. Competition can range from
    > collecting balls and placing them in to different containers and etc. If
    > your school doesn't have, like Alan mentioned it is definitely worth
    > starting one. I'm a FIRST mentor for one our local highschools in
    > Toronto.
    >
    > In terms of education and preparation, I think I believe the best way to
    > approach robotics is that you have to get out there and try it out...get
    > yourself a simple controller and make small little gadgets. Along the
    > way, you'll find yourself more attracted to certain areas of the work
    > and that will help guide you in your course of studies in the future. So
    > if you find yourself enjoying working with motors and mechanisms then
    > mechnical engineering supplemented with some electrical couses. If you
    > enjoy hooking up the controller, building circuits and sensors then you
    > may want to consider electrical engineering. I think computer
    > engineering is little too focused on programming to have an appreciation
    > on the hardware unless you find yourself interested in AI and algorithm
    > design.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-12-02 20:26
    take IA classes in wood, metal, and electronics. Auto
    shop would not be a bad idea also. Hands on knowledge
    in knowing how things work and what is practical are a
    must. A weakness I see in many engineers is that their
    designs look great but the implementation is not
    workable due to their lack of mechanical knowledge and
    prototyping skills.

    kevin

    --- kvasilak <my427v8@h...> wrote:
    > Go to MIT and get at least a Masters in Electrical
    > and minor in
    > Mechanical engineering, and start building robots
    > now...
    >
    > Beware of quick robotics schools, trade schools etc.
    > Anb advanced
    > degree from MIT will get you what ever you want.
    >
    > Oh and start Aceing your math classes now, it's hard
    > to get into MIT!
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., "duncanla22"
    > <Duncanla@c...> wrote:
    > > I am very interested in robotics. I am a sophomore
    > in highschool
    > and
    > > i am looking into a career in robotics. But, I
    > don't exactly know
    > > what im looking for here. I think the career that
    > i'm looking for
    > is
    > > robotics engineering. What kind of education do i
    > need in college?
    > > Are there any colleges in the US that have a
    > robotics engineering
    > > program or do i need to go in to Mechanical or
    > Electrical
    > > engineering? Thanks for any help.
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-12-03 01:31
    Oh yea, I agree with this guy, if you don't love mechanical things
    already then why do you like robots?

    Get into mech's and electronics, if you like that and are good with
    it and are good in school you can go far.

    Well unless you want to go to tech school and just be a
    technician...Solder this, wire that...

    engineers are the ones that get to design stuff, new cool stuff, MIT
    grads get to design the really cool stuff!

    --- In basicstamps@y..., kevin asato <kc6pob@y...> wrote:
    > take IA classes in wood, metal, and electronics. Auto
    > shop would not be a bad idea also. Hands on knowledge
    > in knowing how things work and what is practical are a
    > must. A weakness I see in many engineers is that their
    > designs look great but the implementation is not
    > workable due to their lack of mechanical knowledge and
    > prototyping skills.
    >
    > kevin
    >
    > --- kvasilak <my427v8@h...> wrote:
    > > Go to MIT and get at least a Masters in Electrical
    > > and minor in
    > > Mechanical engineering, and start building robots
    > > now...
    > >
    > > Beware of quick robotics schools, trade schools etc.
    > > Anb advanced
    > > degree from MIT will get you what ever you want.
    > >
    > > Oh and start Aceing your math classes now, it's hard
    > > to get into MIT!
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@y..., "duncanla22"
    > > <Duncanla@c...> wrote:
    > > > I am very interested in robotics. I am a sophomore
    > > in highschool
    > > and
    > > > i am looking into a career in robotics. But, I
    > > don't exactly know
    > > > what im looking for here. I think the career that
    > > i'm looking for
    > > is
    > > > robotics engineering. What kind of education do i
    > > need in college?
    > > > Are there any colleges in the US that have a
    > > robotics engineering
    > > > program or do i need to go in to Mechanical or
    > > Electrical
    > > > engineering? Thanks for any help.
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-12-03 03:10
    Another option besides FIRST is to find a local school doing the FIRST LEGO
    League competition which is the preamble to FIRST. FLL is aimed at 11 to 14
    year-olds and most regular schools are hesitant to join due to lack of
    faculty experience with robotics. My group is just completing their robot
    for competition this week. We could have used a high school student to
    mentor our group. One learns best when they teach others.

    The students are confident with simple programming concepts from Mindstorms
    and want to try out my BOE-BOT when the January term rolls around. Let me
    think about that one before I let them wrestle with my Stamp boards.

    David Disko
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-12-05 19:14
    Check out the Engineering Department at most any college... Look
    under their Electrical or Computer Science degrees. The University of
    Kentucky has their robotics department under these two. And like
    everyone else is telling you, study a LOT of math.


    --- In basicstamps@y..., "duncanla22" <Duncanla@c...> wrote:
    > I am very interested in robotics. I am a sophomore in highschool
    and
    > i am looking into a career in robotics. But, I don't exactly know
    > what im looking for here. I think the career that i'm looking for
    is
    > robotics engineering. What kind of education do i need in college?
    > Are there any colleges in the US that have a robotics engineering
    > program or do i need to go in to Mechanical or Electrical
    > engineering? Thanks for any help.
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