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Hello everybody,
I'm a student from Los Altos High School and I'm completely new to
the BASIC Stamps. We are building electric and solar cars that
compete in Electrathon and Solar BikeRayce events. I am looking for
information on how to build a DC voltmeter (0mv ~ 200V) and display
the voltage on a LCD screen. I understand that I need a BASIC Stamp
module, board, A/D converter, and a LCD screen. Can anyone give me
some advise on what should I buy and how do I build this voltmeter?
Thanks for your help!
Kurt Liu
I'm a student from Los Altos High School and I'm completely new to
the BASIC Stamps. We are building electric and solar cars that
compete in Electrathon and Solar BikeRayce events. I am looking for
information on how to build a DC voltmeter (0mv ~ 200V) and display
the voltage on a LCD screen. I understand that I need a BASIC Stamp
module, board, A/D converter, and a LCD screen. Can anyone give me
some advise on what should I buy and how do I build this voltmeter?
Thanks for your help!
Kurt Liu
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using the Stamp for is as a volt meter.
> From: "kurtliu85" <kurtliu85@e...>
> Reply-To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:35:57 -0000
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Hi
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I'm a student from Los Altos High School and I'm completely new to
> the BASIC Stamps. We are building electric and solar cars that
> compete in Electrathon and Solar BikeRayce events. I am looking for
> information on how to build a DC voltmeter (0mv ~ 200V) and display
> the voltage on a LCD screen. I understand that I need a BASIC Stamp
> module, board, A/D converter, and a LCD screen. Can anyone give me
> some advise on what should I buy and how do I build this voltmeter?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Kurt Liu
>
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Thanks for replying to my message. Actually, I intended to use the
BASIC Stamps to measure the milivolt drop across a 50mv:50A shunt to
approximate the amperage flow in our electrical system. Then, I
wanted to use the BASIC Stamps to calculate AmpHr and display it on a
LCD screen. Can you give me any information on what I need to buy?
Sincerely,
Kurt
--- In basicstamps@y..., Ben <ben@l...> wrote:
> It might be easier to use an Intersil 7106 in this case, if all you
are
> using the Stamp for is as a volt meter.
>
> > From: "kurtliu85" <kurtliu85@e...>
> > Reply-To: basicstamps@y...
> > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:35:57 -0000
> > To: basicstamps@y...
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Hi
> >
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > I'm a student from Los Altos High School and I'm completely new to
> > the BASIC Stamps. We are building electric and solar cars that
> > compete in Electrathon and Solar BikeRayce events. I am looking
for
> > information on how to build a DC voltmeter (0mv ~ 200V) and
display
> > the voltage on a LCD screen. I understand that I need a BASIC
Stamp
> > module, board, A/D converter, and a LCD screen. Can anyone give me
> > some advise on what should I buy and how do I build this
voltmeter?
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > Kurt Liu
> >
> >
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I just thought originally that you wanted a simple volt meter. :-)
Any one else got any ideas??
--- In basicstamps@y..., "kurtliu85" <kurtliu85@e...> wrote:
> Hey Ben,
>
> Thanks for replying to my message. Actually, I intended to use the
> BASIC Stamps to measure the milivolt drop across a 50mv:50A shunt to
> approximate the amperage flow in our electrical system. Then, I
> wanted to use the BASIC Stamps to calculate AmpHr and display it on a
> LCD screen. Can you give me any information on what I need to buy?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Kurt
>
> --- In basicstamps@y..., Ben <ben@l...> wrote:
> > It might be easier to use an Intersil 7106 in this case, if all you
> are
> > using the Stamp for is as a volt meter.
> >
> > > From: "kurtliu85" <kurtliu85@e...>
> > > Reply-To: basicstamps@y...
> > > Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:35:57 -0000
> > > To: basicstamps@y...
> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Hi
> > >
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > > I'm a student from Los Altos High School and I'm completely new to
> > > the BASIC Stamps. We are building electric and solar cars that
> > > compete in Electrathon and Solar BikeRayce events. I am looking
> for
> > > information on how to build a DC voltmeter (0mv ~ 200V) and
> display
> > > the voltage on a LCD screen. I understand that I need a BASIC
> Stamp
> > > module, board, A/D converter, and a LCD screen. Can anyone give me
> > > some advise on what should I buy and how do I build this
> voltmeter?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help!
> > >
> > > Kurt Liu
> > >
> > >
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Original Message
From: "Ben" <ben@l...>
| Um, er, Power electronics isn't my area... :-\
|
| I just thought originally that you wanted a simple volt meter. :-)
|
| Any one else got any ideas??
Yes...
Copy of a message I sent a few weeks ago...
*****************************
On the other hand, if you want to make another measurement (like amp
hour), with the same Stamp and the same alphanumeric 16-character
LCD,
then I would use a Stamp and a 2-chanel A/D converter (MAX 110 or MAX
111).
Now to measure amp hour, you need a clock, yes ? Then have a look at
Dallas Semiconductors DS 1302 (on Maxim's site). It's a great
real-time clock with a battery or supercap backup system.
Those 2 circuits (MAX 110 and DS 1302) saves Stamp pins (4 and 3-wire
communication). You need some more Stamp I/Os for the LCD...
This is only an idea on how I would begin.
Have a look at www.maxim-ic.com, you'll find the complete datasheets.
*****************************
Hope this helps...
Phil.
msrajums@h... writes:
Hi,
I am new to hardware programming and I have exp in software programming in
C++/C#(dotnet).
I need info about these.
1. I would like to know which is the best way to learn about
microcontrollers. Which kit is the best for experimenting the things...
2. Suppose I write some module in c++ and C sharp, how do I put that into
information in chip.
3. Suggest some urls/books.
Thanks in advance
MS Raju
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I think the first question is what do you intend to do with your uControllers?
HANDS DOWN the basic stamp is the is the best way to learn about
microcontrollers. Parallax (www.parallax.com) has excellent tutorials that
make the stamp usable by ANYBODY who can read and connect wires to a breadboard.
The basic stamp and the documentation you get from Parallax, code examples,
hardware examples.......there is no better on the planet!!!!!!!!!!!
The code is very easy (Pbasic). The only drawback is the speed of the
controller, and $$. Generally speed is not a problem though, as many people who
contribute to this forum have built some remarkable devices with the basic
stamp.
Cost is $50 for the BS2, support is unlimited and excellent.
For pure speed....20 ns / clock cycle, and 1 to 4 cycles to execute an
instruction the SX by Ubicom (and also sold through Parallax) is an excellent
uController, but not for the weak at heart programmers.....assembly language,
but
this should not be a problem for you. Less than $10 for the IC and Resonator,
and there are not nearly as many posts in the Yahoo forum for this device (SX),
but I have never failed to recieve support from the forum. Also a one time
~$180 programmer which has a nice debug feature, you can single step through
your program.
So it boils down to what you want to do with the uController, and balance
ease of programming vs cost and speed of execution.
Try looking at www.sxlist.com for info on the SX.
[noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
microcontrollers is probably the Basic Stamp 2,
24-pin version. It is simple, it gets you
used to the simple way you have to do things
in microprocessors, and it takes care of a
lot of tiny details for you.
Tiny details like: clock chips and routing
clock signals. Providing reliable power.
Providing an operating system. Providing
a debug system.
Once you've used the BS2, then you can
'graduate' into 'real' PIC processors with
the CCI 'C' compiler.
Note by 'simple', I mean in C++ you have
LOTS of libraries you can use that give
you complicated functionality. In the
microprocessor world you are a lot closer
to the hardware.
See www.parallax.com, in their Nuts and Volts section.
See www.phanderson.com
See www.rentron.com -- look in their PIC section
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "M S Raju" <msrajums@h...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am new to hardware programming and I have exp in software
programming in
> C++/C#(dotnet).
>
> I need info about these.
>
>
> 1. I would like to know which is the best way to learn about
> microcontrollers. Which kit is the best for experimenting the
things...
>
> 2. Suppose I write some module in c++ and C sharp, how do I put
that into
> information in chip.
>
> 3. Suggest some urls/books.
>
> Thanks in advance
> MS Raju
I am new to hardware programming and I have exp in software programming in
C++/C#(dotnet).
I need info about these.
1. I would like to know which is the best way to learn about
microcontrollers. Which kit is the best for experimenting the things...
2. Suppose I write some module in c++ and C sharp, how do I put that into
information in chip.
3. Suggest some urls/books.
Thanks in advance
MS Raju
further.
Here are the more details which you asked.
My ultimate goal is to build (digital video recorder) for. I have some time
to complete this and I can do some learning in that direction meanwhile. So
I guess I have to concentrate on CMOS camera and LCD related stuff.
I have pretty good experience in image related stuff in c++ and c#.
I have checked the parallax website and there are thousands of different
kind of boards..I am confused, which one to buy.
Also I am not familiar with basic language. So Is there any alternative for
using c++ or c or csharp. If yes, which C++ KIT IS best for my requirement?
Thanks for any inputs and your time.
Original Message
From: smartdim@a... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=hAr91dYbZVSHCDi2wIJCwSe4qIbkX64ClKiv8oXUnI4_r5rN-DdRyrO2T-iKEnWU4sw5V8r_nMU]smartdim@a...[/url
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:47 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
In a message dated 10/9/2003 9:10:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
msrajums@h... writes:
Hi,
I am new to hardware programming and I have exp in software programming in
C++/C#(dotnet).
I need info about these.
1. I would like to know which is the best way to learn about
microcontrollers. Which kit is the best for experimenting the things...
2. Suppose I write some module in c++ and C sharp, how do I put that into
information in chip.
3. Suggest some urls/books.
Thanks in advance
MS Raju
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I think the first question is what do you intend to do with your
uControllers?
HANDS DOWN the basic stamp is the is the best way to learn about
microcontrollers. Parallax (www.parallax.com) has excellent tutorials that
make the stamp usable by ANYBODY who can read and connect wires to a
breadboard.
The basic stamp and the documentation you get from Parallax, code examples,
hardware examples.......there is no better on the planet!!!!!!!!!!!
The code is very easy (Pbasic). The only drawback is the speed of the
controller, and $$. Generally speed is not a problem though, as many people
who
contribute to this forum have built some remarkable devices with the basic
stamp.
Cost is $50 for the BS2, support is unlimited and excellent.
For pure speed....20 ns / clock cycle, and 1 to 4 cycles to execute an
instruction the SX by Ubicom (and also sold through Parallax) is an
excellent
uController, but not for the weak at heart programmers.....assembly
language, but
this should not be a problem for you. Less than $10 for the IC and
Resonator,
and there are not nearly as many posts in the Yahoo forum for this device
(SX),
but I have never failed to recieve support from the forum. Also a one time
~$180 programmer which has a nice debug feature, you can single step through
your program.
So it boils down to what you want to do with the uController, and balance
ease of programming vs cost and speed of execution.
Try looking at www.sxlist.com for info on the SX.
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I checked the parallax website and there are many controllers.
Can you suggest me which one to buy. I am c++ programmer so its will be
better if I have c lang or c++ based controllers.
My ultimate goal is to build the DVR(digital video recorder).
Original Message
From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=VZcRwC3jpPAUKfslssta2J_RZyquzQ9X5AwFbO0gMfuGOgCFU06DUFJXN18bAITsn0Edygm7wShwmBqttG6LGOTE]allan.lane@h...[/url
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:48 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
I think the best platform to learn about
microcontrollers is probably the Basic Stamp 2,
24-pin version. It is simple, it gets you
used to the simple way you have to do things
in microprocessors, and it takes care of a
lot of tiny details for you.
Tiny details like: clock chips and routing
clock signals. Providing reliable power.
Providing an operating system. Providing
a debug system.
Once you've used the BS2, then you can
'graduate' into 'real' PIC processors with
the CCI 'C' compiler.
Note by 'simple', I mean in C++ you have
LOTS of libraries you can use that give
you complicated functionality. In the
microprocessor world you are a lot closer
to the hardware.
See www.parallax.com, in their Nuts and Volts section.
See www.phanderson.com
See www.rentron.com -- look in their PIC section
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "M S Raju" <msrajums@h...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am new to hardware programming and I have exp in software
programming in
> C++/C#(dotnet).
>
> I need info about these.
>
>
> 1. I would like to know which is the best way to learn about
> microcontrollers. Which kit is the best for experimenting the
things...
>
> 2. Suppose I write some module in c++ and C sharp, how do I put
that into
> information in chip.
>
> 3. Suggest some urls/books.
>
> Thanks in advance
> MS Raju
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language is an embedded version of BASIC; you cannot program it in C,
C++, or C#. We also have a controller called the Javelin Stamp that
programs in a subset of Java, perhaps that's a better fit for your
desires to learn about microcontrollers. You can get a starter kit that
comes with everything you need to get started. Here's the link:
http://www.parallax.com/detail.asp?product_id=27237
Again, the Javelin programs in Java -- not C, C++, or C#, but it
shouldn't be any real struggle for you as Java is so similar to C.
Ultimately, any micro that runs an embedded virtual machine (like the
BASIC Stamp or Javelin Stamp) may not run fast enough for your
application. At that point you can switch to a stock micro (like the SX
or PIC) and program it with a C/C++ compiler. The SX and many PIC
micros are flash-based so you can reprogram them easily. We carry
materials for the SX micro and there are third-party compilers available
for it.
-- Jon Williams
-- Applications Engineer, Parallax
-- Dallas Office
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From: M S Raju [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=QX0ANwoLrVo9r9fO516Fnuzmn3vklPkEaX9Z0kRhiEQI19AuW2n72Z1MRzYwiS-3hDigCYKuUu0SKsyYuU6b]msrajums@h...[/url
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 6:37 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Hi
Thanks for the information.
I checked the parallax website and there are many controllers. Can you
suggest me which one to buy. I am c++ programmer so its will be better
if I have c lang or c++ based controllers.
My ultimate goal is to build the DVR(digital video recorder).
Original Message
From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=b6Vv4RKiMpfNiV5ZSuS5kGNuIWc_hRjY62HEAHqe2d5C8rJ7TtgG-n4movSQVdvxcYx3lOsUORFP-efJnfuvIm90vQ]allan.lane@h...[/url
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:48 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
I think the best platform to learn about
microcontrollers is probably the Basic Stamp 2,
24-pin version. It is simple, it gets you
used to the simple way you have to do things
in microprocessors, and it takes care of a
lot of tiny details for you.
Tiny details like: clock chips and routing
clock signals. Providing reliable power.
Providing an operating system. Providing
a debug system.
Once you've used the BS2, then you can
'graduate' into 'real' PIC processors with
the CCI 'C' compiler.
Note by 'simple', I mean in C++ you have
LOTS of libraries you can use that give
you complicated functionality. In the
microprocessor world you are a lot closer
to the hardware.
See www.parallax.com, in their Nuts and Volts section.
See www.phanderson.com
See www.rentron.com -- look in their PIC section
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "M S Raju" <msrajums@h...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am new to hardware programming and I have exp in software
programming in
> C++/C#(dotnet).
>
> I need info about these.
>
>
> 1. I would like to know which is the best way to learn about
> microcontrollers. Which kit is the best for experimenting the
things...
>
> 2. Suppose I write some module in c++ and C sharp, how do I put
that into
> information in chip.
>
> 3. Suggest some urls/books.
>
> Thanks in advance
> MS Raju
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to C++. Other then that there is no stamp that is programmable in C++. The
SX can however be programmed in C. The catch is you have to buy a C
compiler for it and from my understanding they aren't terribly cheap. Also
consider the fact that with the SX the unit cost will be lower but the
initial cost is significantly higher as you need the compiler and
specialized programming hardware i.e. SX-Key. I totally agree with everyone
on that the basic stamp 2 is the best for learning microcontrollers. PBasic
is a walk in the park to learn so don't let the fact that it's a language
you don't know scare you off.
Well that's my two cents.
Chris Shuster
Original Message
From: "M S Raju" <msrajums@h...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:36 AM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Hi
> Thanks for the information.
>
> I checked the parallax website and there are many controllers.
> Can you suggest me which one to buy. I am c++ programmer so its will be
> better if I have c lang or c++ based controllers.
>
> My ultimate goal is to build the DVR(digital video recorder).
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=0E_BIOQ0Knv8f_cj57axZhSwkPtS8zPP9LvNxfk44-kHwL49ew4cDA_22AGtGbGNckwF3lOm7J-WGZh9GSK0PyOYyYFv]allan.lane@h...[/url
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:48 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>
> I think the best platform to learn about
> microcontrollers is probably the Basic Stamp 2,
> 24-pin version. It is simple, it gets you
> used to the simple way you have to do things
> in microprocessors, and it takes care of a
> lot of tiny details for you.
>
> Tiny details like: clock chips and routing
> clock signals. Providing reliable power.
> Providing an operating system. Providing
> a debug system.
>
> Once you've used the BS2, then you can
> 'graduate' into 'real' PIC processors with
> the CCI 'C' compiler.
>
> Note by 'simple', I mean in C++ you have
> LOTS of libraries you can use that give
> you complicated functionality. In the
> microprocessor world you are a lot closer
> to the hardware.
>
> See www.parallax.com, in their Nuts and Volts section.
> See www.phanderson.com
> See www.rentron.com -- look in their PIC section
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "M S Raju" <msrajums@h...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am new to hardware programming and I have exp in software
> programming in
> > C++/C#(dotnet).
> >
> > I need info about these.
> >
> >
> > 1. I would like to know which is the best way to learn about
> > microcontrollers. Which kit is the best for experimenting the
> things...
> >
> > 2. Suppose I write some module in c++ and C sharp, how do I put
> that into
> > information in chip.
> >
> > 3. Suggest some urls/books.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > MS Raju
>
>
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I've written extensively in C/C++, and coded enough java to understand
that at its fundamental, they are totally different. Structurally, C is an
iterative programming language and Java is more like smalltalk in that it
deals with object messaging and threads.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, Jon Williams wrote:
> Again, the Javelin programs in Java -- not C, C++, or C#, but it
> shouldn't be any real struggle for you as Java is so similar to C.
>
> Ultimately, any micro that runs an embedded virtual machine (like the
> BASIC Stamp or Javelin Stamp) may not run fast enough for your
> application. At that point you can switch to a stock micro (like the SX
> or PIC) and program it with a C/C++ compiler. The SX and many PIC
> micros are flash-based so you can reprogram them easily. We carry
> materials for the SX micro and there are third-party compilers available
> for it.
>
> -- Jon Williams
> -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
> -- Dallas Office
>
>
>
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> From: M S Raju [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=OlOnKgpePnXSmrXFhv7R8BkXx2CMo5NvPI83VKAQi1gOB1ujVCwdHdqL2uNUHVAxi4no2V5uVYxQEFqFJxKY]msrajums@h...[/url
> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 6:37 AM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Hi
>
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> I checked the parallax website and there are many controllers. Can you
> suggest me which one to buy. I am c++ programmer so its will be better
> if I have c lang or c++ based controllers.
>
> My ultimate goal is to build the DVR(digital video recorder).
>
>
>
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> From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=Vus1diS_WhX13CUR6Vtli9HHdSviirUc-xNF77Y8kYLnwNCYCCjPhP1ffyrM3DIMoWqcgG1Y0H8ha-scIGnktqi3QJQ]allan.lane@h...[/url
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:48 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>
> I think the best platform to learn about
> microcontrollers is probably the Basic Stamp 2,
> 24-pin version. It is simple, it gets you
> used to the simple way you have to do things
> in microprocessors, and it takes care of a
> lot of tiny details for you.
>
> Tiny details like: clock chips and routing
> clock signals. Providing reliable power.
> Providing an operating system. Providing
> a debug system.
>
> Once you've used the BS2, then you can
> 'graduate' into 'real' PIC processors with
> the CCI 'C' compiler.
>
> Note by 'simple', I mean in C++ you have
> LOTS of libraries you can use that give
> you complicated functionality. In the
> microprocessor world you are a lot closer
> to the hardware.
>
> See www.parallax.com, in their Nuts and Volts section.
> See www.phanderson.com
> See www.rentron.com -- look in their PIC section
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "M S Raju" <msrajums@h...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am new to hardware programming and I have exp in software
> programming in
> > C++/C#(dotnet).
> >
> > I need info about these.
> >
> >
> > 1. I would like to know which is the best way to learn about
> > microcontrollers. Which kit is the best for experimenting the
> things...
> >
> > 2. Suppose I write some module in c++ and C sharp, how do I put
> that into
> > information in chip.
> >
> > 3. Suggest some urls/books.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > MS Raju
>
>
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lamont@a... writes:
What kind of java implementation does parallax have that makes this true?
I've written extensively in C/C++, and coded enough java to understand
that at its fundamental, they are totally different. Structurally, C is an
iterative programming language and Java is more like smalltalk in that it
deals with object messaging and threads.
_______________________________________
If you can write in C and C++, you MOST CERTAINLY can write in PBasic. The
documentation is superb, help from this forum superb. Again PBasic is EASY. I
learned it on my own with no programming experience, certainly a C / C++
programmer can pick it up literally in less than one hour.
Ken
[noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
there.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/javelinstamp/
In a nutshell, the Java implementation on the Javelin is a
single-threaded subset. That said, the speed of the SX allows us to
install background peripheral objects; things like UARTS, PWM, and
timers.
-- Jon Williams
-- Applications Engineer, Parallax
-- Dallas Office
Original Message
From: Sean T. Lamont .lost. [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=uLCaryHIOUR6spxznra_Q0Q-cptKN4wxDl_53n6AXdKrPJSW5dyc58Arf3Du5P4fl5kS7RxynmcSW-bCoQ]lamont@a...[/url
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:38 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Hi
What kind of java implementation does parallax have that makes this
true? I've written extensively in C/C++, and coded enough java to
understand that at its fundamental, they are totally different.
Structurally, C is an iterative programming language and Java is more
like smalltalk in that it deals with object messaging and threads.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, Jon Williams wrote:
> Again, the Javelin programs in Java -- not C, C++, or C#, but it
> shouldn't be any real struggle for you as Java is so similar to C.
>
> Ultimately, any micro that runs an embedded virtual machine (like the
> BASIC Stamp or Javelin Stamp) may not run fast enough for your
> application. At that point you can switch to a stock micro (like the
> SX or PIC) and program it with a C/C++ compiler. The SX and many PIC
> micros are flash-based so you can reprogram them easily. We carry
> materials for the SX micro and there are third-party compilers
> available for it.
>
> -- Jon Williams
> -- Applications Engineer, Parallax
> -- Dallas Office
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: M S Raju [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=8kMQI5VAiZyQ-7j-VgLZMcU4wJ6chxiCiVwAs49ArQu3GP6_RV1D-5iS0RjvwXbBquIY2H7j_jF7Vd1jkBE]msrajums@h...[/url
> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 6:37 AM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Hi
>
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> I checked the parallax website and there are many controllers. Can you
> suggest me which one to buy. I am c++ programmer so its will be better
> if I have c lang or c++ based controllers.
>
> My ultimate goal is to build the DVR(digital video recorder).
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: Allan Lane [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=pPSn2sG9a8CWZlLjdAVLebJkinfMAu0h34krMrW1cUAB2WHtrwk1e682J56Ge1a1DfD5yh9caaZ4SWdTMNEkztHpgp4]allan.lane@h...[/url
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:48 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
>
> I think the best platform to learn about
> microcontrollers is probably the Basic Stamp 2,
> 24-pin version. It is simple, it gets you
> used to the simple way you have to do things
> in microprocessors, and it takes care of a
> lot of tiny details for you.
>
> Tiny details like: clock chips and routing
> clock signals. Providing reliable power.
> Providing an operating system. Providing
> a debug system.
>
> Once you've used the BS2, then you can
> 'graduate' into 'real' PIC processors with
> the CCI 'C' compiler.
>
> Note by 'simple', I mean in C++ you have
> LOTS of libraries you can use that give
> you complicated functionality. In the
> microprocessor world you are a lot closer
> to the hardware.
>
> See www.parallax.com, in their Nuts and Volts section.
> See www.phanderson.com
> See www.rentron.com -- look in their PIC section
>
> --- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, "M S Raju" <msrajums@h...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am new to hardware programming and I have exp in software
> programming in
> > C++/C#(dotnet).
> >
> > I need info about these.
> >
> >
> > 1. I would like to know which is the best way to learn about
> > microcontrollers. Which kit is the best for experimenting the
> things...
> >
> > 2. Suppose I write some module in c++ and C sharp, how do I put
> that into
> > information in chip.
> >
> > 3. Suggest some urls/books.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > MS Raju
>
>
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to how PBasic compiles to Basic 'PCodes'.
Parallax has a Java bytecode interpreter in a chip.
Their 'Javelin' processor has a 32K eeprom where
your bytecodes and their interpreter reside. When
you start the chip, all is copied to a 32K SRAM
on-module, and then your bytecodes are executed
from SRAM.
C++ and Java are in fact similar. Both are
object oriented languages, which allow you to
encapsulate your 'methods' in 'objects', which
contain both the methods and data.
Note that 'C++' is an OO expansion of 'C'.
It is true that when using the Javelin version
of Java, you have a few limitations. No garbage
collection, so you need to be careful how you
create and discard objects.
The Java run-time in the Javelin is quite
sophisticated. It allows you to run 'pseudo-
devices' along with your code -- so you can
have multiple serial ports, for instance.
If you don't want this, check out the 50-MIPS
AVR processor (see the group AVR-Chat), which
has a nice demo 'C' language, or the CCI 'C'
5 MIPS compiler for the PIC, or the Parallax hosted
50 MIPS SX 'C' compiler.
--- In basicstamps@yahoogroups.com, smartdim@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 10/13/2003 12:36:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> lamont@a... writes:
> What kind of java implementation does parallax have that makes this
true?
> I've written extensively in C/C++, and coded enough java to
understand
> that at its fundamental, they are totally different. Structurally,
C is an
> iterative programming language and Java is more like smalltalk in
that it
> deals with object messaging and threads.
> _______________________________________
>
> If you can write in C and C++, you MOST CERTAINLY can write in
PBasic. The
> documentation is superb, help from this forum superb. Again PBasic
is EASY. I
> learned it on my own with no programming experience, certainly a
C / C++
> programmer can pick it up literally in less than one hour.
>
> Ken
>
>
> [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
was challenging the statement that C and Java were similar.
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, smartdim@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 10/13/2003 12:36:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> lamont@a... writes:
> What kind of java implementation does parallax have that makes this true?
> I've written extensively in C/C++, and coded enough java to understand
> that at its fundamental, they are totally different. Structurally, C is an
> iterative programming language and Java is more like smalltalk in that it
> deals with object messaging and threads.
> _______________________________________
>
> If you can write in C and C++, you MOST CERTAINLY can write in PBasic. The
> documentation is superb, help from this forum superb. Again PBasic is EASY. I
> learned it on my own with no programming experience, certainly a C / C++
> programmer can pick it up literally in less than one hour.
>
> Ken
>
>
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