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Larry points out that he had to scrounge up an old PC to program his stamp
with.
I have not been on this list too long but i have gathered that others have
had some trouble using different hardware and Windows OS's to program their
stamp.
My first stamp is on the way (supposed to ship tommorow!) so I do not know
if my system is going to be willing to deal with it or not. I'm on pentium
I 233 mHtz, 192 ram, Windows2000. I have spare drives i could put
3.1,95,98, or NT on. Main board is from 1997 - maybe I won't have to
scrounge any further than under my desk.
What are some different configurations of PC hardware and OS's that you all
have found to work and not work?
matt
Original Message
From: <LJGeib@a...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Digest Number 1468
> on board ADC with a BS2? When did that show up?
> The reasons I went to PICS was that Stamps didn't have enough pins (before
> bs240), that they had no ADC support and that they can't be used with a
MAC.
> Sure, you can try an emulator, but success with that is sketchy at best.
> Pics are getting easier to use. there are now free basic compilers and
> interpreters, free C compilers free Forth, and of course assembler. All
this
> gives you as much or more flexibility than a Stamp. You don't even need a
> programmer. there are sources that will sell you a pic and flash a
bootloader
> or an interpreter for no extra cost,Although if you work with them a lot,
you
> will need a good programmer.
>
> The other thing s PIC will give you is SPEED. Compiled code runs much
faster,
> and,since you don't need to communicate serially with the program memory,
you
> don't have that constaint. And for about $10, you can get a Pic that has
16k
> memory, runs at 40 mhz, has ADC,SPI,I2C,CAN,timers,CCP.
>
>
> Still, I love Stamps. Great support, great documentation, probably the
only
> thing I'd recommend for someone to get started on. and great for "quicky"
> projects. I'm still pissed that I had to scrounge up an old PC to program
> them, though. The damn thing sits there taking up half my robot desk.
>
> -Larry
>
>
>
> \\\In a message dated 11/4/02 2:04:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> basicstamps@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>
> > From: "Dave Mucha" <davemucha@j...>
> > Subject: Re: PIC vs. Basic Stamp
> >
> > First on my list is
> >
> > THIS LIST !!!
> >
> > far and away the best feature.
> >
> > #2 ease of programming.
> >
> > when you program the BS2, you are trouble shooting hardware 99% of
> > the time. in other micro's, you are not sure. and you can spend
> > (insert time here,minutes, hours, DAYS!) on trouble shooting a simple
> > problem.
> >
> > #3 Onboard ADC
> > #4 Onboard PWM
> >
> > #5 cost , the problms is that, although the PIC is lot's cheaper, it
> > costs you pleanty to get there.
> >
> > $250.00 for PICBasicPro
> > $100.00 for a high quaity programmer
> >
> > If you are doing 5 parts, you are better off with a BS2 for cost
> > alone.
> >
> > #6 speed.
> >
> > #7 simplicity - BS2 has an onboard oscilator and onboard voltage
> > regulator.
> >
> > #8 Versitility, you can get an 8 pin PIC for a very simple project.
> > say a doggie door. monitor pet collar, open/close door. or a 40
> > pin multi ADC behemouth.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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with.
I have not been on this list too long but i have gathered that others have
had some trouble using different hardware and Windows OS's to program their
stamp.
My first stamp is on the way (supposed to ship tommorow!) so I do not know
if my system is going to be willing to deal with it or not. I'm on pentium
I 233 mHtz, 192 ram, Windows2000. I have spare drives i could put
3.1,95,98, or NT on. Main board is from 1997 - maybe I won't have to
scrounge any further than under my desk.
What are some different configurations of PC hardware and OS's that you all
have found to work and not work?
matt
Original Message
From: <LJGeib@a...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Digest Number 1468
> on board ADC with a BS2? When did that show up?
> The reasons I went to PICS was that Stamps didn't have enough pins (before
> bs240), that they had no ADC support and that they can't be used with a
MAC.
> Sure, you can try an emulator, but success with that is sketchy at best.
> Pics are getting easier to use. there are now free basic compilers and
> interpreters, free C compilers free Forth, and of course assembler. All
this
> gives you as much or more flexibility than a Stamp. You don't even need a
> programmer. there are sources that will sell you a pic and flash a
bootloader
> or an interpreter for no extra cost,Although if you work with them a lot,
you
> will need a good programmer.
>
> The other thing s PIC will give you is SPEED. Compiled code runs much
faster,
> and,since you don't need to communicate serially with the program memory,
you
> don't have that constaint. And for about $10, you can get a Pic that has
16k
> memory, runs at 40 mhz, has ADC,SPI,I2C,CAN,timers,CCP.
>
>
> Still, I love Stamps. Great support, great documentation, probably the
only
> thing I'd recommend for someone to get started on. and great for "quicky"
> projects. I'm still pissed that I had to scrounge up an old PC to program
> them, though. The damn thing sits there taking up half my robot desk.
>
> -Larry
>
>
>
> \\\In a message dated 11/4/02 2:04:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> basicstamps@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>
> > From: "Dave Mucha" <davemucha@j...>
> > Subject: Re: PIC vs. Basic Stamp
> >
> > First on my list is
> >
> > THIS LIST !!!
> >
> > far and away the best feature.
> >
> > #2 ease of programming.
> >
> > when you program the BS2, you are trouble shooting hardware 99% of
> > the time. in other micro's, you are not sure. and you can spend
> > (insert time here,minutes, hours, DAYS!) on trouble shooting a simple
> > problem.
> >
> > #3 Onboard ADC
> > #4 Onboard PWM
> >
> > #5 cost , the problms is that, although the PIC is lot's cheaper, it
> > costs you pleanty to get there.
> >
> > $250.00 for PICBasicPro
> > $100.00 for a high quaity programmer
> >
> > If you are doing 5 parts, you are better off with a BS2 for cost
> > alone.
> >
> > #6 speed.
> >
> > #7 simplicity - BS2 has an onboard oscilator and onboard voltage
> > regulator.
> >
> > #8 Versitility, you can get an 8 pin PIC for a very simple project.
> > say a doggie door. monitor pet collar, open/close door. or a 40
> > pin multi ADC behemouth.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Comments
Pretty much all the older PC's have a serial port on them.
But the newer PC's have all gone towards USB or Firewire serial ports
instead leaving the old RS232 ports off.
A lot of people have had trouble finding USB to RS232 adapters that work,
but there have been a few that do work.
Your PC should be fine.
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To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] old PC
Larry points out that he had to scrounge up an old PC to program his stamp
with.
I have not been on this list too long but i have gathered that others have
had some trouble using different hardware and Windows OS's to program their
stamp.
My first stamp is on the way (supposed to ship tommorow!) so I do not know
if my system is going to be willing to deal with it or not. I'm on pentium
I 233 mHtz, 192 ram, Windows2000. I have spare drives i could put
3.1,95,98, or NT on. Main board is from 1997 - maybe I won't have to
scrounge any further than under my desk.
What are some different configurations of PC hardware and OS's that you all
have found to work and not work?
matt
Original Message
From: <LJGeib@a...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Digest Number 1468
> on board ADC with a BS2? When did that show up?
> The reasons I went to PICS was that Stamps didn't have enough pins (before
> bs240), that they had no ADC support and that they can't be used with a
MAC.
> Sure, you can try an emulator, but success with that is sketchy at best.
> Pics are getting easier to use. there are now free basic compilers and
> interpreters, free C compilers free Forth, and of course assembler. All
this
> gives you as much or more flexibility than a Stamp. You don't even need a
> programmer. there are sources that will sell you a pic and flash a
bootloader
> or an interpreter for no extra cost,Although if you work with them a lot,
you
> will need a good programmer.
>
> The other thing s PIC will give you is SPEED. Compiled code runs much
faster,
> and,since you don't need to communicate serially with the program memory,
you
> don't have that constaint. And for about $10, you can get a Pic that has
16k
> memory, runs at 40 mhz, has ADC,SPI,I2C,CAN,timers,CCP.
>
>
> Still, I love Stamps. Great support, great documentation, probably the
only
> thing I'd recommend for someone to get started on. and great for "quicky"
> projects. I'm still pissed that I had to scrounge up an old PC to program
> them, though. The damn thing sits there taking up half my robot desk.
>
> -Larry
>
>
>
> \\\In a message dated 11/4/02 2:04:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> basicstamps@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>
> > From: "Dave Mucha" <davemucha@j...>
> > Subject: Re: PIC vs. Basic Stamp
> >
> > First on my list is
> >
> > THIS LIST !!!
> >
> > far and away the best feature.
> >
> > #2 ease of programming.
> >
> > when you program the BS2, you are trouble shooting hardware 99% of
> > the time. in other micro's, you are not sure. and you can spend
> > (insert time here,minutes, hours, DAYS!) on trouble shooting a simple
> > problem.
> >
> > #3 Onboard ADC
> > #4 Onboard PWM
> >
> > #5 cost , the problms is that, although the PIC is lot's cheaper, it
> > costs you pleanty to get there.
> >
> > $250.00 for PICBasicPro
> > $100.00 for a high quaity programmer
> >
> > If you are doing 5 parts, you are better off with a BS2 for cost
> > alone.
> >
> > #6 speed.
> >
> > #7 simplicity - BS2 has an onboard oscilator and onboard voltage
> > regulator.
> >
> > #8 Versitility, you can get an 8 pin PIC for a very simple project.
> > say a doggie door. monitor pet collar, open/close door. or a 40
> > pin multi ADC behemouth.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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