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on board ADC with a BS2? When did that show up?
The reasons I went to PICS was that Stamps didn't have enough pins (before
bs240), that they had no ADC support and that they can't be used with a MAC.
Sure, you can try an emulator, but success with that is sketchy at best.
Pics are getting easier to use. there are now free basic compilers and
interpreters, free C compilers free Forth, and of course assembler. All this
gives you as much or more flexibility than a Stamp. You don't even need a
programmer. there are sources that will sell you a pic and flash a bootloader
or an interpreter for no extra cost,Although if you work with them a lot, you
will need a good programmer.
The other thing s PIC will give you is SPEED. Compiled code runs much faster,
and,since you don't need to communicate serially with the program memory, you
don't have that constaint. And for about $10, you can get a Pic that has 16k
memory, runs at 40 mhz, has ADC,SPI,I2C,CAN,timers,CCP.
Still, I love Stamps. Great support, great documentation, probably the only
thing I'd recommend for someone to get started on. and great for "quicky"
projects. I'm still pissed that I had to scrounge up an old PC to program
them, though. The damn thing sits there taking up half my robot desk.
-Larry
\\\In a message dated 11/4/02 2:04:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
basicstamps@yahoogroups.com writes:
> From: "Dave Mucha" <davemucha@j...>
> Subject: Re: PIC vs. Basic Stamp
>
> First on my list is
>
> THIS LIST !!!
>
> far and away the best feature.
>
> #2 ease of programming.
>
> when you program the BS2, you are trouble shooting hardware 99% of
> the time. in other micro's, you are not sure. and you can spend
> (insert time here,minutes, hours, DAYS!) on trouble shooting a simple
> problem.
>
> #3 Onboard ADC
> #4 Onboard PWM
>
> #5 cost , the problms is that, although the PIC is lot's cheaper, it
> costs you pleanty to get there.
>
> $250.00 for PICBasicPro
> $100.00 for a high quaity programmer
>
> If you are doing 5 parts, you are better off with a BS2 for cost
> alone.
>
> #6 speed.
>
> #7 simplicity - BS2 has an onboard oscilator and onboard voltage
> regulator.
>
> #8 Versitility, you can get an 8 pin PIC for a very simple project.
> say a doggie door. monitor pet collar, open/close door. or a 40
> pin multi ADC behemouth.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
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The reasons I went to PICS was that Stamps didn't have enough pins (before
bs240), that they had no ADC support and that they can't be used with a MAC.
Sure, you can try an emulator, but success with that is sketchy at best.
Pics are getting easier to use. there are now free basic compilers and
interpreters, free C compilers free Forth, and of course assembler. All this
gives you as much or more flexibility than a Stamp. You don't even need a
programmer. there are sources that will sell you a pic and flash a bootloader
or an interpreter for no extra cost,Although if you work with them a lot, you
will need a good programmer.
The other thing s PIC will give you is SPEED. Compiled code runs much faster,
and,since you don't need to communicate serially with the program memory, you
don't have that constaint. And for about $10, you can get a Pic that has 16k
memory, runs at 40 mhz, has ADC,SPI,I2C,CAN,timers,CCP.
Still, I love Stamps. Great support, great documentation, probably the only
thing I'd recommend for someone to get started on. and great for "quicky"
projects. I'm still pissed that I had to scrounge up an old PC to program
them, though. The damn thing sits there taking up half my robot desk.
-Larry
\\\In a message dated 11/4/02 2:04:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
basicstamps@yahoogroups.com writes:
> From: "Dave Mucha" <davemucha@j...>
> Subject: Re: PIC vs. Basic Stamp
>
> First on my list is
>
> THIS LIST !!!
>
> far and away the best feature.
>
> #2 ease of programming.
>
> when you program the BS2, you are trouble shooting hardware 99% of
> the time. in other micro's, you are not sure. and you can spend
> (insert time here,minutes, hours, DAYS!) on trouble shooting a simple
> problem.
>
> #3 Onboard ADC
> #4 Onboard PWM
>
> #5 cost , the problms is that, although the PIC is lot's cheaper, it
> costs you pleanty to get there.
>
> $250.00 for PICBasicPro
> $100.00 for a high quaity programmer
>
> If you are doing 5 parts, you are better off with a BS2 for cost
> alone.
>
> #6 speed.
>
> #7 simplicity - BS2 has an onboard oscilator and onboard voltage
> regulator.
>
> #8 Versitility, you can get an 8 pin PIC for a very simple project.
> say a doggie door. monitor pet collar, open/close door. or a 40
> pin multi ADC behemouth.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> on board ADC with a BS2? When did that show up?