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Serin question.

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2002-09-13 02:22 in General Discussion
Hi guys,

I posted this recently but had no responses. I doubt it baffled the
brains in this groups :-) so I'm posting it again.

I hope someone can assist me interfacing a serial module to the BS2.

The specs state the unit outputs a logic high of a maximum 0.3V and a
logic low of a minimum 0.7V. There in no mention of a logic high min
(but I presume it would be close to 0V) or maximum logic low (which I
presume would be approaching 5V).

I doubt (but am not sure) the Stamp can differentiate between high
and low if they fall into this max and min range.

I can not find reference to the exact levels the stamp requires. If
it can handle these levels all well and good.

But if it can't, can anyone suggest a simple way to reliably modify
the levels to ensure a correct read. I am not very knowledgable as
far as electronics is concerned.

Thanks in advace

Col

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-09-11 18:07
    Those are very unusual levels. Do you actually have this device
    where you can measure the levels or observe them on an oscilloscope?
    What device is it? What baud rate?

    The stamp switching threshold is around 1.3 volts.

    If you really need to set a threshold at 0.5 volts, you can do so
    with a comparator chip. Feed 0.5 volts into the (-) input, and feed
    the signal into the (+) input, and viola`, the full range signal will
    appear on the output. You might be able to get by with a single
    transistor as the threshold detector, base to signal through a ~1kohm
    resistor, emitter to common, and collector through a 10k resistor to
    +5 volts. That signal is right at the transistor switching
    threshold, but the workability would depend on the signal source
    impedance and on the baud rate.

    -- best regards
    Tracy Allen
    electronically monitored ecosystems
    http://www.emesystems.com
    mailto:tracy@e...


    >Hi guys,
    >
    ...

    >I hope someone can assist me interfacing a serial module to the BS2.
    >
    >The specs state the unit outputs a logic high of a maximum 0.3V and a
    >logic low of a minimum 0.7V. There in no mention of a logic high min
    >(but I presume it would be close to 0V) or maximum logic low (which I
    >presume would be approaching 5V).
    >
    >I doubt (but am not sure) the Stamp can differentiate between high
    >and low if they fall into this max and min range.
    >
    >I can not find reference to the exact levels the stamp requires. If
    >it can handle these levels all well and good.
    >
    >But if it can't, can anyone suggest a simple way to reliably modify
    >the levels to ensure a correct read. I am not very knowledgable as
    >far as electronics is concerned.
    >
    >Thanks in advace
    >
    >Col
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-09-12 15:53
    Thanks Tracy,

    knew one of you guys could help.

    I do not have the device, nor do I have an oscilloscope. I am just
    going off the minimal information I was able to get off the companies
    web site. They have not answered my email querie as yet.

    It is a super-hetrodyne receiver working at 433.92MHz. The only info
    quoted is operating voltage (5v), current, frequency, sensitivity (-
    105dBm), I.F. (270KHz), Max data rate (2KHz), max signal level that
    can be decoded (-23.5dBm). (http://www.oatleyelectronics.com It is
    their model RX14.)

    I want to use it to send data between stamps, this module connected
    via a stamp to a POS printer.

    I may have to risk buying one to try it out. If the levels aren't
    suitable then try your comparator solution. It's all good
    experience :-)

    Cheers
    Col

    --- In basicstamps@y..., Tracy Allen <tracy@e...> wrote:
    > Those are very unusual levels. Do you actually have this device
    > where you can measure the levels or observe them on an
    oscilloscope?
    > What device is it? What baud rate?
    >
    > The stamp switching threshold is around 1.3 volts.
    >
    > If you really need to set a threshold at 0.5 volts, you can do so
    > with a comparator chip. Feed 0.5 volts into the (-) input, and
    feed
    > the signal into the (+) input, and viola`, the full range signal
    will
    > appear on the output. You might be able to get by with a single
    > transistor as the threshold detector, base to signal through a
    ~1kohm
    > resistor, emitter to common, and collector through a 10k resistor
    to
    > +5 volts. That signal is right at the transistor switching
    > threshold, but the workability would depend on the signal source
    > impedance and on the baud rate.
    >
    > -- best regards
    > Tracy Allen
    > electronically monitored ecosystems
    > http://www.emesystems.com
    > mailto:tracy@e...
    >
    >
    > >Hi guys,
    > >
    > ...
    >
    > >I hope someone can assist me interfacing a serial module to the
    BS2.
    > >
    > >The specs state the unit outputs a logic high of a maximum 0.3V
    and a
    > >logic low of a minimum 0.7V. There in no mention of a logic high
    min
    > >(but I presume it would be close to 0V) or maximum logic low
    (which I
    > >presume would be approaching 5V).
    > >
    > >I doubt (but am not sure) the Stamp can differentiate between high
    > >and low if they fall into this max and min range.
    > >
    > >I can not find reference to the exact levels the stamp requires. If
    > >it can handle these levels all well and good.
    > >
    > >But if it can't, can anyone suggest a simple way to reliably modify
    > >the levels to ensure a correct read. I am not very knowledgable as
    > >far as electronics is concerned.
    > >
    > >Thanks in advace
    > >
    > >Col
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-09-12 16:00
    What I did on my rf receiver is use a .01 or .1 cap from the
    output of the receiver to the stamp that dropped the DC voltage
    to 0

    larry

    Original Message
    From: "aussiecol39" <aussiecol39@y...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: September 12, 2002 7:53 AM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Serin question.


    Thanks Tracy,

    knew one of you guys could help.

    I do not have the device, nor do I have an oscilloscope. I am
    just
    going off the minimal information I was able to get off the
    companies
    web site. They have not answered my email querie as yet.

    It is a super-hetrodyne receiver working at 433.92MHz. The only
    info
    quoted is operating voltage (5v), current, frequency, sensitivity
    (-
    105dBm), I.F. (270KHz), Max data rate (2KHz), max signal level
    that
    can be decoded (-23.5dBm). (http://www.oatleyelectronics.com It
    is
    their model RX14.)

    I want to use it to send data between stamps, this module
    connected
    via a stamp to a POS printer.

    I may have to risk buying one to try it out. If the levels aren't
    suitable then try your comparator solution. It's all good
    experience :-)

    Cheers
    Col

    --- In basicstamps@y..., Tracy Allen <tracy@e...> wrote:
    > Those are very unusual levels. Do you actually have this
    device
    > where you can measure the levels or observe them on an
    oscilloscope?
    > What device is it? What baud rate?
    >
    > The stamp switching threshold is around 1.3 volts.
    >
    > If you really need to set a threshold at 0.5 volts, you can do
    so
    > with a comparator chip. Feed 0.5 volts into the (-) input,
    and
    feed
    > the signal into the (+) input, and viola`, the full range
    signal
    will
    > appear on the output. You might be able to get by with a
    single
    > transistor as the threshold detector, base to signal through a
    ~1kohm
    > resistor, emitter to common, and collector through a 10k
    resistor
    to
    > +5 volts. That signal is right at the transistor switching
    > threshold, but the workability would depend on the signal
    source
    > impedance and on the baud rate.
    >
    > -- best regards
    > Tracy Allen
    > electronically monitored ecosystems
    > http://www.emesystems.com
    > mailto:tracy@e...
    >
    >
    > >Hi guys,
    > >
    > ...
    >
    > >I hope someone can assist me interfacing a serial module to
    the
    BS2.
    > >
    > >The specs state the unit outputs a logic high of a maximum
    0.3V
    and a
    > >logic low of a minimum 0.7V. There in no mention of a logic
    high
    min
    > >(but I presume it would be close to 0V) or maximum logic low
    (which I
    > >presume would be approaching 5V).
    > >
    > >I doubt (but am not sure) the Stamp can differentiate between
    high
    > >and low if they fall into this max and min range.
    > >
    > >I can not find reference to the exact levels the stamp
    requires. If
    > >it can handle these levels all well and good.
    > >
    > >But if it can't, can anyone suggest a simple way to reliably
    modify
    > >the levels to ensure a correct read. I am not very
    knowledgable as
    > >far as electronics is concerned.
    > >
    > >Thanks in advace
    > >
    > >Col


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-09-12 16:04
    This is almost surely a typo in the datasheet unless it is implying the
    output is inverted?

    They are saying that a low is .7 * Vcc and a high is .3 * Vcc! So @5V
    that means 0=3.5V and 1=1.5V. I suspect this is backwards. Also, usually
    you'd specify your low as a MAX and your high as a MIN, so I'd be
    willing to bet the MAX low is 1.5V and the MIN high is 3.5V.

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm



    >
    Original Message
    > From: aussiecol39 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=HOhumF7aIRlhbDcJmziiismps4gcz4fo0OLBcvfJRD7ULKRXgwsE5MUK0Wv2s3CV3UXfvIXE6zF8FDoBlHPe]aussiecol39@y...[/url
    > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:54 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Serin question.
    >
    >
    > Thanks Tracy,
    >
    > knew one of you guys could help.
    >
    > I do not have the device, nor do I have an oscilloscope. I am just
    > going off the minimal information I was able to get off the companies
    > web site. They have not answered my email querie as yet.
    >
    > It is a super-hetrodyne receiver working at 433.92MHz. The only info
    > quoted is operating voltage (5v), current, frequency,
    > sensitivity (- 105dBm), I.F. (270KHz), Max data rate (2KHz),
    > max signal level that
    > can be decoded (-23.5dBm). (http://www.oatleyelectronics.com It is
    > their model RX14.)
    >
    > I want to use it to send data between stamps, this module connected
    > via a stamp to a POS printer.
    >
    > I may have to risk buying one to try it out. If the levels aren't
    > suitable then try your comparator solution. It's all good
    > experience :-)
    >
    > Cheers
    > Col
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., Tracy Allen <tracy@e...> wrote:
    > > Those are very unusual levels. Do you actually have this device
    > > where you can measure the levels or observe them on an
    > oscilloscope?
    > > What device is it? What baud rate?
    > >
    > > The stamp switching threshold is around 1.3 volts.
    > >
    > > If you really need to set a threshold at 0.5 volts, you can do so
    > > with a comparator chip. Feed 0.5 volts into the (-) input, and
    > feed
    > > the signal into the (+) input, and viola`, the full range signal
    > will
    > > appear on the output. You might be able to get by with a single
    > > transistor as the threshold detector, base to signal through a
    > ~1kohm
    > > resistor, emitter to common, and collector through a 10k resistor
    > to
    > > +5 volts. That signal is right at the transistor switching
    > > threshold, but the workability would depend on the signal source
    > > impedance and on the baud rate.
    > >
    > > -- best regards
    > > Tracy Allen
    > > electronically monitored ecosystems
    > > http://www.emesystems.com
    > > mailto:tracy@e...
    > >
    > >
    > > >Hi guys,
    > > >
    > > ...
    > >
    > > >I hope someone can assist me interfacing a serial module to the
    > BS2.
    > > >
    > > >The specs state the unit outputs a logic high of a maximum 0.3V
    > and a
    > > >logic low of a minimum 0.7V. There in no mention of a logic high
    > min
    > > >(but I presume it would be close to 0V) or maximum logic low
    > (which I
    > > >presume would be approaching 5V).
    > > >
    > > >I doubt (but am not sure) the Stamp can differentiate between high
    > > >and low if they fall into this max and min range.
    > > >
    > > >I can not find reference to the exact levels the stamp
    > requires. If
    > > >it can handle these levels all well and good.
    > > >
    > > >But if it can't, can anyone suggest a simple way to
    > reliably modify
    > > >the levels to ensure a correct read. I am not very knowledgable as
    > > >far as electronics is concerned.
    > > >
    > > >Thanks in advace
    > > >
    > > >Col
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-09-12 18:08
    At 02:53 PM 9/12/2002 +0000, you wrote:
    >Thanks Tracy,
    >
    >knew one of you guys could help.
    >
    >I do not have the device, nor do I have an oscilloscope. I am just
    >going off the minimal information I was able to get off the companies
    >web site. They have not answered my email querie as yet.
    >
    >It is a super-hetrodyne receiver working at 433.92MHz. The only info
    >quoted is operating voltage (5v), current, frequency, sensitivity (-
    >105dBm), I.F. (270KHz), Max data rate (2KHz), max signal level that
    >can be decoded (-23.5dBm). (http://www.oatleyelectronics.com It is
    >their model RX14.)
    >
    >I want to use it to send data between stamps, this module connected
    >via a stamp to a POS printer.
    >
    >I may have to risk buying one to try it out. If the levels aren't
    >suitable then try your comparator solution. It's all good
    >experience :-)
    >
    >Cheers
    >Col
    Hi Col -

    You may want to check out this link where a Stamp is used with that
    same receiver:
    http://www.scsoftware.com.au/family/andrew/camera/remote/mk1.shtml

    Please note in the list of parts the non-catalog decoder from Oatley.

    Regards,

    Bruce Bates


    >--- In basicstamps@y..., Tracy Allen <tracy@e...> wrote:
    > > Those are very unusual levels. Do you actually have this device
    > > where you can measure the levels or observe them on an
    >oscilloscope?
    > > What device is it? What baud rate?
    > >
    > > The stamp switching threshold is around 1.3 volts.
    > >
    > > If you really need to set a threshold at 0.5 volts, you can do so
    > > with a comparator chip. Feed 0.5 volts into the (-) input, and
    >feed
    > > the signal into the (+) input, and viola`, the full range signal
    >will
    > > appear on the output. You might be able to get by with a single
    > > transistor as the threshold detector, base to signal through a
    >~1kohm
    > > resistor, emitter to common, and collector through a 10k resistor
    >to
    > > +5 volts. That signal is right at the transistor switching
    > > threshold, but the workability would depend on the signal source
    > > impedance and on the baud rate.
    > >
    > > -- best regards
    > > Tracy Allen
    > > electronically monitored ecosystems
    > > http://www.emesystems.com
    > > mailto:tracy@e...
    > >
    > >
    > > >Hi guys,
    > > >
    > > ...
    > >
    > > >I hope someone can assist me interfacing a serial module to the
    >BS2.
    > > >
    > > >The specs state the unit outputs a logic high of a maximum 0.3V
    >and a
    > > >logic low of a minimum 0.7V. There in no mention of a logic high
    >min
    > > >(but I presume it would be close to 0V) or maximum logic low
    >(which I
    > > >presume would be approaching 5V).
    > > >
    > > >I doubt (but am not sure) the Stamp can differentiate between high
    > > >and low if they fall into this max and min range.
    > > >
    > > >I can not find reference to the exact levels the stamp requires. If
    > > >it can handle these levels all well and good.
    > > >
    > > >But if it can't, can anyone suggest a simple way to reliably modify
    > > >the levels to ensure a correct read. I am not very knowledgable as
    > > >far as electronics is concerned.
    > > >
    > > >Thanks in advace
    > > >
    > > >Col
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-09-13 01:43
    Thanks Al,

    that all makes a lot of sense. I, in my ignorance, assumed it meant a
    level of .7V not that it was .7 of the 5V. I feel a lot more
    confident to pursue this now :-)

    Thanks again.

    Cheers
    Col

    --- In basicstamps@y..., "Al Williams" <alw@a...> wrote:
    > This is almost surely a typo in the datasheet unless it is implying
    the
    > output is inverted?
    >
    > They are saying that a low is .7 * Vcc and a high is .3 * Vcc! So
    @5V
    > that means 0=3.5V and 1=1.5V. I suspect this is backwards. Also,
    usually
    > you'd specify your low as a MAX and your high as a MIN, so I'd be
    > willing to bet the MAX low is 1.5V and the MIN high is 3.5V.
    >
    > Al Williams
    > AWC
    > * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    > http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: aussiecol39 [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:aussiecol39@y...]
    > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:54 AM
    > > To: basicstamps@y...
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Serin question.
    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks Tracy,
    > >
    > > knew one of you guys could help.
    > >
    > > I do not have the device, nor do I have an oscilloscope. I am just
    > > going off the minimal information I was able to get off the
    companies
    > > web site. They have not answered my email querie as yet.
    > >
    > > It is a super-hetrodyne receiver working at 433.92MHz. The only
    info
    > > quoted is operating voltage (5v), current, frequency,
    > > sensitivity (- 105dBm), I.F. (270KHz), Max data rate (2KHz),
    > > max signal level that
    > > can be decoded (-23.5dBm). (http://www.oatleyelectronics.com It
    is
    > > their model RX14.)
    > >
    > > I want to use it to send data between stamps, this module
    connected
    > > via a stamp to a POS printer.
    > >
    > > I may have to risk buying one to try it out. If the levels aren't
    > > suitable then try your comparator solution. It's all good
    > > experience :-)
    > >
    > > Cheers
    > > Col
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@y..., Tracy Allen <tracy@e...> wrote:
    > > > Those are very unusual levels. Do you actually have this
    device
    > > > where you can measure the levels or observe them on an
    > > oscilloscope?
    > > > What device is it? What baud rate?
    > > >
    > > > The stamp switching threshold is around 1.3 volts.
    > > >
    > > > If you really need to set a threshold at 0.5 volts, you can do
    so
    > > > with a comparator chip. Feed 0.5 volts into the (-) input,
    and
    > > feed
    > > > the signal into the (+) input, and viola`, the full range signal
    > > will
    > > > appear on the output. You might be able to get by with a
    single
    > > > transistor as the threshold detector, base to signal through a
    > > ~1kohm
    > > > resistor, emitter to common, and collector through a 10k
    resistor
    > > to
    > > > +5 volts. That signal is right at the transistor switching
    > > > threshold, but the workability would depend on the signal
    source
    > > > impedance and on the baud rate.
    > > >
    > > > -- best regards
    > > > Tracy Allen
    > > > electronically monitored ecosystems
    > > > http://www.emesystems.com
    > > > mailto:tracy@e...
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > >Hi guys,
    > > > >
    > > > ...
    > > >
    > > > >I hope someone can assist me interfacing a serial module to the
    > > BS2.
    > > > >
    > > > >The specs state the unit outputs a logic high of a maximum 0.3V
    > > and a
    > > > >logic low of a minimum 0.7V. There in no mention of a logic
    high
    > > min
    > > > >(but I presume it would be close to 0V) or maximum logic low
    > > (which I
    > > > >presume would be approaching 5V).
    > > > >
    > > > >I doubt (but am not sure) the Stamp can differentiate between
    high
    > > > >and low if they fall into this max and min range.
    > > > >
    > > > >I can not find reference to the exact levels the stamp
    > > requires. If
    > > > >it can handle these levels all well and good.
    > > > >
    > > > >But if it can't, can anyone suggest a simple way to
    > > reliably modify
    > > > >the levels to ensure a correct read. I am not very
    knowledgable as
    > > > >far as electronics is concerned.
    > > > >
    > > > >Thanks in advace
    > > > >
    > > > >Col
    > >
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-09-13 01:45
    Hi Bruce,

    Thanks for that.

    The link will be very useful to me not only for this project, but for
    other ideas I have.

    Cheers and thanks again.

    Col

    --- In basicstamps@y..., Bruce Bates <bvbates@u...> wrote:
    > At 02:53 PM 9/12/2002 +0000, you wrote:
    > >Thanks Tracy,
    > >
    > >knew one of you guys could help.
    > >
    > >I do not have the device, nor do I have an oscilloscope. I am just
    > >going off the minimal information I was able to get off the
    companies
    > >web site. They have not answered my email querie as yet.
    > >
    > >It is a super-hetrodyne receiver working at 433.92MHz. The only
    info
    > >quoted is operating voltage (5v), current, frequency, sensitivity
    (-
    > >105dBm), I.F. (270KHz), Max data rate (2KHz), max signal level that
    > >can be decoded (-23.5dBm). (http://www.oatleyelectronics.com It is
    > >their model RX14.)
    > >
    > >I want to use it to send data between stamps, this module connected
    > >via a stamp to a POS printer.
    > >
    > >I may have to risk buying one to try it out. If the levels aren't
    > >suitable then try your comparator solution. It's all good
    > >experience :-)
    > >
    > >Cheers
    > >Col
    > Hi Col -
    >
    > You may want to check out this link where a Stamp is used with that
    > same receiver:
    >
    http://www.scsoftware.com.au/family/andrew/camera/remote/mk1.shtml
    >
    > Please note in the list of parts the non-catalog decoder from
    Oatley.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Bruce Bates
    >
    >
    > >--- In basicstamps@y..., Tracy Allen <tracy@e...> wrote:
    > > > Those are very unusual levels. Do you actually have this device
    > > > where you can measure the levels or observe them on an
    > >oscilloscope?
    > > > What device is it? What baud rate?
    > > >
    > > > The stamp switching threshold is around 1.3 volts.
    > > >
    > > > If you really need to set a threshold at 0.5 volts, you can do
    so
    > > > with a comparator chip. Feed 0.5 volts into the (-) input, and
    > >feed
    > > > the signal into the (+) input, and viola`, the full range signal
    > >will
    > > > appear on the output. You might be able to get by with a single
    > > > transistor as the threshold detector, base to signal through a
    > >~1kohm
    > > > resistor, emitter to common, and collector through a 10k
    resistor
    > >to
    > > > +5 volts. That signal is right at the transistor switching
    > > > threshold, but the workability would depend on the signal source
    > > > impedance and on the baud rate.
    > > >
    > > > -- best regards
    > > > Tracy Allen
    > > > electronically monitored ecosystems
    > > > http://www.emesystems.com
    > > > mailto:tracy@e...
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > >Hi guys,
    > > > >
    > > > ...
    > > >
    > > > >I hope someone can assist me interfacing a serial module to the
    > >BS2.
    > > > >
    > > > >The specs state the unit outputs a logic high of a maximum 0.3V
    > >and a
    > > > >logic low of a minimum 0.7V. There in no mention of a logic
    high
    > >min
    > > > >(but I presume it would be close to 0V) or maximum logic low
    > >(which I
    > > > >presume would be approaching 5V).
    > > > >
    > > > >I doubt (but am not sure) the Stamp can differentiate between
    high
    > > > >and low if they fall into this max and min range.
    > > > >
    > > > >I can not find reference to the exact levels the stamp
    requires. If
    > > > >it can handle these levels all well and good.
    > > > >
    > > > >But if it can't, can anyone suggest a simple way to reliably
    modify
    > > > >the levels to ensure a correct read. I am not very
    knowledgable as
    > > > >far as electronics is concerned.
    > > > >
    > > > >Thanks in advace
    > > > >
    > > > >Col
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-09-13 02:22
    Thanks Larry,

    could be an option. Still, I think I need an oscilloscope to sus out
    exactly what the outputs are :-)

    Cheers
    Col

    --- In basicstamps@y..., "Larry Gaminde" <lgaminde@t...> wrote:
    > What I did on my rf receiver is use a .01 or .1 cap from the
    > output of the receiver to the stamp that dropped the DC voltage
    > to 0
    >
    > larry
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "aussiecol39" <aussiecol39@y...>
    > To: <basicstamps@y...>
    > Sent: September 12, 2002 7:53 AM
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Serin question.
    >
    >
    > Thanks Tracy,
    >
    > knew one of you guys could help.
    >
    > I do not have the device, nor do I have an oscilloscope. I am
    > just
    > going off the minimal information I was able to get off the
    > companies
    > web site. They have not answered my email querie as yet.
    >
    > It is a super-hetrodyne receiver working at 433.92MHz. The only
    > info
    > quoted is operating voltage (5v), current, frequency, sensitivity
    > (-
    > 105dBm), I.F. (270KHz), Max data rate (2KHz), max signal level
    > that
    > can be decoded (-23.5dBm). (http://www.oatleyelectronics.com It
    > is
    > their model RX14.)
    >
    > I want to use it to send data between stamps, this module
    > connected
    > via a stamp to a POS printer.
    >
    > I may have to risk buying one to try it out. If the levels aren't
    > suitable then try your comparator solution. It's all good
    > experience :-)
    >
    > Cheers
    > Col
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., Tracy Allen <tracy@e...> wrote:
    > > Those are very unusual levels. Do you actually have this
    > device
    > > where you can measure the levels or observe them on an
    > oscilloscope?
    > > What device is it? What baud rate?
    > >
    > > The stamp switching threshold is around 1.3 volts.
    > >
    > > If you really need to set a threshold at 0.5 volts, you can do
    > so
    > > with a comparator chip. Feed 0.5 volts into the (-) input,
    > and
    > feed
    > > the signal into the (+) input, and viola`, the full range
    > signal
    > will
    > > appear on the output. You might be able to get by with a
    > single
    > > transistor as the threshold detector, base to signal through a
    > ~1kohm
    > > resistor, emitter to common, and collector through a 10k
    > resistor
    > to
    > > +5 volts. That signal is right at the transistor switching
    > > threshold, but the workability would depend on the signal
    > source
    > > impedance and on the baud rate.
    > >
    > > -- best regards
    > > Tracy Allen
    > > electronically monitored ecosystems
    > > http://www.emesystems.com
    > > mailto:tracy@e...
    > >
    > >
    > > >Hi guys,
    > > >
    > > ...
    > >
    > > >I hope someone can assist me interfacing a serial module to
    > the
    > BS2.
    > > >
    > > >The specs state the unit outputs a logic high of a maximum
    > 0.3V
    > and a
    > > >logic low of a minimum 0.7V. There in no mention of a logic
    > high
    > min
    > > >(but I presume it would be close to 0V) or maximum logic low
    > (which I
    > > >presume would be approaching 5V).
    > > >
    > > >I doubt (but am not sure) the Stamp can differentiate between
    > high
    > > >and low if they fall into this max and min range.
    > > >
    > > >I can not find reference to the exact levels the stamp
    > requires. If
    > > >it can handle these levels all well and good.
    > > >
    > > >But if it can't, can anyone suggest a simple way to reliably
    > modify
    > > >the levels to ensure a correct read. I am not very
    > knowledgable as
    > > >far as electronics is concerned.
    > > >
    > > >Thanks in advace
    > > >
    > > >Col
    >
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