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SV: [basicstamps] Thanks for the info.

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2002-06-14 22:15 in General Discussion
Greetings!

I get my 1-wire products from a local distributor, but I belive that you can
buy them directly from www.dalsemi.com (May be a different link now that
Maxim have bought DalSemi)
There's also a list of distributors there.

As for interfacing, all 1-Wire components only need 1(!) IO pin and Ground +
a 4.7KOhm pullup resistor between the IO pin and +5V

A quick explanation of how they work:
Power:
They use a 'parasite' powersupply, rechargeing an internal capacitor
from the signal line while it is in it's 'idle' state. (Pulled up to +5V)
some chips may have a separate power pin, but for most of those, it's
optional.

Network:
A 1-Wire network consists of 1 master, and 1 or more slave devices.
The devices are connected in parallell to the same IO pin, and can be
addressed individually by use of the factory lasered 64bit serial number.

Signalling:
The Master(your computer) starts the communication by holding the
line low for a specified amount of time(Called a 1-wire reset).
It then sends a 'ROM Address command', either 'Search ROM', 'Match
ROM', or 'Skip ROM' and a ROM Serial number.(Except if 'Skip ROM' which
assumes that there's no other 1-Wire devices on the line)
Sending '1' or '0' is done by holding the line high or low for
specific lenghts of time.
Then the master sends a RAM or whatever command, possibly with data
following.
If the command is a 'READ' command of some sort, the master will
send '1's afterwards, and the slave unit will transmit the data by pulling
the line low when it needs to send '0'. (The master samples the level of the
port to determine the data)

Note: EPROM chips...
These needs a 'Strong pullup' of +12V when being written.
NO OTHER 1-Wire chips should be present on the bus when this
happens!

For a more in-depth explanation, I sugest that you scoot over to the DalSemi
site and download a few .PDF files. I particularly recommend the 'Standards'
and any 'appnotes' that you can find(in addition to the datasheets for the
chips that interest you)

:-)
Trygve

BTW: there's a mailing list there too.
http://lists.dalsemi.com/mailman/listinfo/1-wire-software-development

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Emne: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Thanks for the info.


Just wanted to say thanks for the info. Dose any one know any thing
about 1-wire nets? I have seen web sites about them but I don't know
where to get the temp sensors or how to interface it to my computer.


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-12 08:00
    Ooops...

    I forgot to mention....

    DalSemi have a special chip DS2480b that converts from Serial to 1-Wire and
    back again.
    (It handles all the timing details and everything :-)

    With this chip there's no problem of interfacing any BS2 model to a 1-wire
    network...

    :-)
    Trygve
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-12 21:39
    Thanks for the info. Do you know if the 1-wire net can be directly connected to
    a PC? What im trying to do is be able to monitor the computer rooms temp and the
    outside temp along with some other rooms and devieces.
    Trygve Henriksen <trygve.henriksen@v...> wrote: Ooops...

    I forgot to mention....

    DalSemi have a special chip DS2480b that converts from Serial to 1-Wire and
    back again.
    (It handles all the timing details and everything :-)

    With this chip there's no problem of interfacing any BS2 model to a 1-wire
    network...

    :-)
    Trygve

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-14 15:37
    yes Im sure of it, you could monitor 50 locations in one room, some
    in other rooms, anywhere you can reach the wire, and as many sensors as
    your budget will allow. They get expensive though

    IMO, any 1-wire project that does not have a stamp in it, tends to not be
    very flexible, and therefore not very exciting ( to me ) Sensors give
    you data
    Micros give you options


    Dave


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-06-14 22:15
    before I get blasted by the 1- wire faithfull, I spoke too soon ......
    1-wire projects can be and are flexible................ but even more so
    with the addition of a stamp.

    Dave
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