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SERIN auto-looping?

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2002-05-29 14:50 in General Discussion
This one's got me really baffled. I'm using a BS2p24. I'm reading
output from a VB script. The data comes as one continuous stream of
30 numbers, but I wanted to separate the data into 6 sets of 5. I
had problems and began debugging the original code. The long and
short of it is, I got the code down to the following:

Data VAR BYTE

SERIN 16,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA]
SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA,","]

END

Pin 14 is connected to a terminal prog on another PC to monitor
the data. I expected to see one number and comma come through and
nothing else, i.e.:

49,

However, it still receives and echoes all the data, and the output
looks like:


49,12,10,12,11,61,12,12,12,13,40,12,14,12,15,6,12,16,12,17,29,12,18,12
,19,16,12,20,12,21

Is SERIN and SEROUT causing some kind of auto-loop? Any ideas
what's going on? This is totally bizarre!

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-05-29 02:27
    Don't forget that port 16 always echos what you send it since it steals
    -12V from the PC. If you are trying to "watch" both lines with port 16
    or if your code on the other end is echoing that could cause a loop. You
    can read more about the auto echo "feature" at the Stamp FAQ at
    http://www.wd5gnr.com/faqs

    Good luck!

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Floating point A/D
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak9.htm



    >
    Original Message
    > From: mtlhead7 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=mE7yyOfZGCk73rq7ABDvP_BoE24s5i2p9_P1XaVylt-ZsF8l1UG6T3_kcExednd3AeN8pv5Ikko2qZKeEWCTx5rOL0pmJQ]renegade.engineer@v...[/url
    > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:02 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?
    >
    >
    > This one's got me really baffled. I'm using a BS2p24. I'm reading
    > output from a VB script. The data comes as one continuous stream of
    > 30 numbers, but I wanted to separate the data into 6 sets of 5. I
    > had problems and began debugging the original code. The long and
    > short of it is, I got the code down to the following:
    >
    > Data VAR BYTE
    >
    > SERIN 16,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA]
    > SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA,","]
    >
    > END
    >
    > Pin 14 is connected to a terminal prog on another PC to monitor
    > the data. I expected to see one number and comma come through and
    > nothing else, i.e.:
    >
    > 49,
    >
    > However, it still receives and echoes all the data, and the output
    > looks like:
    >
    >
    > 49,12,10,12,11,61,12,12,12,13,40,12,14,12,15,6,12,16,12,17,29,12,18,12
    > ,19,16,12,20,12,21
    >
    > Is SERIN and SEROUT causing some kind of auto-loop? Any ideas
    > what's going on? This is totally bizarre!
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-05-29 03:47
    Al
    I'm not sure I understand your answer. I tried the FAQ, but got no
    results when I searched on 'auto' or 'echo' or both.
    More info might help here. I'm transmitting from a simple output-only
    VB script on one PC in through port 16 and then the stamp is forwarding what
    it receives out port 14 to a receive-only terminal on another PC. This is
    what I intended to happen. Where I'm confused is why the stamp is receiving
    more than one piece of data. The code I spelled out below is supposed to
    only get one number, relay that number and a comma, and stop. But it
    doesn't. It continues to receive all the incoming numbers. That's the part
    that I can't figure out. It should only get one number. The fact that it
    continues to echo what it receives is unimportant.
    Any ideas?
    Don
    Original Message
    From: "Al Williams" <alw@a...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:27 PM
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?


    > Don't forget that port 16 always echos what you send it since it steals
    > -12V from the PC. If you are trying to "watch" both lines with port 16
    > or if your code on the other end is echoing that could cause a loop. You
    > can read more about the auto echo "feature" at the Stamp FAQ at
    > http://www.wd5gnr.com/faqs
    >
    > Good luck!
    >
    > Al Williams
    > AWC
    > * Floating point A/D
    > http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak9.htm
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: mtlhead7 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=JGX_-OJau_uN289I7EUUGn4zrNpfWAL08SqHfU_Yd3Bm0ILP-cW2IRoAnhi_Ww8zN9lCfpmU4LN7yHZYthOFrJgroA]renegade.engineer@v...[/url
    > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:02 PM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?
    > >
    > >
    > > This one's got me really baffled. I'm using a BS2p24. I'm reading
    > > output from a VB script. The data comes as one continuous stream of
    > > 30 numbers, but I wanted to separate the data into 6 sets of 5. I
    > > had problems and began debugging the original code. The long and
    > > short of it is, I got the code down to the following:
    > >
    > > Data VAR BYTE
    > >
    > > SERIN 16,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA]
    > > SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA,","]
    > >
    > > END
    > >
    > > Pin 14 is connected to a terminal prog on another PC to monitor
    > > the data. I expected to see one number and comma come through and
    > > nothing else, i.e.:
    > >
    > > 49,
    > >
    > > However, it still receives and echoes all the data, and the output
    > > looks like:
    > >
    > >
    > > 49,12,10,12,11,61,12,12,12,13,40,12,14,12,15,6,12,16,12,17,29,12,18,12
    > > ,19,16,12,20,12,21
    > >
    > > Is SERIN and SEROUT causing some kind of auto-loop? Any ideas
    > > what's going on? This is totally bizarre!
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-05-29 04:01
    The article in question is
    http://www.wd5gnr.com/faqs/index.php?qframe=1&faq=1&article=35

    Not sure if that is your problem or not, but I'd wager that if you got
    off port 16 your problem would mysteriously clear up.

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm



    >
    Original Message
    > From: Don [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=fIBz3NAVRCYihBw_9i1P7uvHkoLZA7Cs42o34DzmtdkHRvlXn1xYRXNs5jguTMSIRSn03GzYUmUQAdRMIWtbY-cWRwRO8J8]renegade.engineer@v...[/url
    > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 9:47 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?
    >
    >
    > Al
    > I'm not sure I understand your answer. I tried the FAQ,
    > but got no results when I searched on 'auto' or 'echo' or both.
    > More info might help here. I'm transmitting from a
    > simple output-only VB script on one PC in through port 16 and
    > then the stamp is forwarding what it receives out port 14 to
    > a receive-only terminal on another PC. This is what I
    > intended to happen. Where I'm confused is why the stamp is
    > receiving more than one piece of data. The code I spelled
    > out below is supposed to only get one number, relay that
    > number and a comma, and stop. But it doesn't. It continues
    > to receive all the incoming numbers. That's the part that I
    > can't figure out. It should only get one number. The fact
    > that it continues to echo what it receives is unimportant.
    > Any ideas?
    > Don
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "Al Williams" <alw@a...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:27 PM
    > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?
    >
    >
    > > Don't forget that port 16 always echos what you send it since it
    > > steals -12V from the PC. If you are trying to "watch" both
    > lines with
    > > port 16 or if your code on the other end is echoing that
    > could cause a
    > > loop. You can read more about the auto echo "feature" at
    > the Stamp FAQ
    > > at http://www.wd5gnr.com/faqs
    > >
    > > Good luck!
    > >
    > > Al Williams
    > > AWC
    > > * Floating point A/D http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak9.htm
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > > From: mtlhead7 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=fIBz3NAVRCYihBw_9i1P7uvHkoLZA7Cs42o34DzmtdkHRvlXn1xYRXNs5jguTMSIRSn03GzYUmUQAdRMIWtbY-cWRwRO8J8]renegade.engineer@v...[/url
    > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:02 PM
    > > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > This one's got me really baffled. I'm using a BS2p24. I'm
    > > > reading output from a VB script. The data comes as one
    > continuous
    > > > stream of 30 numbers, but I wanted to separate the data
    > into 6 sets
    > > > of 5. I had problems and began debugging the original code. The
    > > > long and short of it is, I got the code down to the following:
    > > >
    > > > Data VAR BYTE
    > > >
    > > > SERIN 16,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA]
    > > > SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA,","]
    > > >
    > > > END
    > > >
    > > > Pin 14 is connected to a terminal prog on another PC
    > to monitor
    > > > the data. I expected to see one number and comma come
    > through and
    > > > nothing else, i.e.:
    > > >
    > > > 49,
    > > >
    > > > However, it still receives and echoes all the data, and the
    > > > output looks like:
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > 49,12,10,12,11,61,12,12,12,13,40,12,14,12,15,6,12,16,12,17,29,12,18,
    > > > 12
    > > > ,19,16,12,20,12,21
    > > >
    > > > Is SERIN and SEROUT causing some kind of auto-loop? Any ideas
    > > > what's going on? This is totally bizarre!
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-05-29 04:04
    I'll try that tomorrow and let you know how it goes. Thanks for the
    help!!
    Don
    Original Message
    From: "Al Williams" <alw@a...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:01 PM
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?


    > The article in question is
    > http://www.wd5gnr.com/faqs/index.php?qframe=1&faq=1&article=35
    >
    > Not sure if that is your problem or not, but I'd wager that if you got
    > off port 16 your problem would mysteriously clear up.
    >
    > Al Williams
    > AWC
    > * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    > http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm
    >
    >
    >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: Don [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=N160dJapl1w49AGEjsrFvXxUjDyPjaPcz0-42QhDNhlUXTiyfnK0W8N-RTRhCDLCIlObvUgrv26B8FcTTGRDzMQQRP_SwA]renegade.engineer@v...[/url
    > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 9:47 PM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?
    > >
    > >
    > > Al
    > > I'm not sure I understand your answer. I tried the FAQ,
    > > but got no results when I searched on 'auto' or 'echo' or both.
    > > More info might help here. I'm transmitting from a
    > > simple output-only VB script on one PC in through port 16 and
    > > then the stamp is forwarding what it receives out port 14 to
    > > a receive-only terminal on another PC. This is what I
    > > intended to happen. Where I'm confused is why the stamp is
    > > receiving more than one piece of data. The code I spelled
    > > out below is supposed to only get one number, relay that
    > > number and a comma, and stop. But it doesn't. It continues
    > > to receive all the incoming numbers. That's the part that I
    > > can't figure out. It should only get one number. The fact
    > > that it continues to echo what it receives is unimportant.
    > > Any ideas?
    > > Don
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: "Al Williams" <alw@a...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:27 PM
    > > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?
    > >
    > >
    > > > Don't forget that port 16 always echos what you send it since it
    > > > steals -12V from the PC. If you are trying to "watch" both
    > > lines with
    > > > port 16 or if your code on the other end is echoing that
    > > could cause a
    > > > loop. You can read more about the auto echo "feature" at
    > > the Stamp FAQ
    > > > at http://www.wd5gnr.com/faqs
    > > >
    > > > Good luck!
    > > >
    > > > Al Williams
    > > > AWC
    > > > * Floating point A/D http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak9.htm
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > > From: mtlhead7 [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=N160dJapl1w49AGEjsrFvXxUjDyPjaPcz0-42QhDNhlUXTiyfnK0W8N-RTRhCDLCIlObvUgrv26B8FcTTGRDzMQQRP_SwA]renegade.engineer@v...[/url
    > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:02 PM
    > > > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > This one's got me really baffled. I'm using a BS2p24. I'm
    > > > > reading output from a VB script. The data comes as one
    > > continuous
    > > > > stream of 30 numbers, but I wanted to separate the data
    > > into 6 sets
    > > > > of 5. I had problems and began debugging the original code. The
    > > > > long and short of it is, I got the code down to the following:
    > > > >
    > > > > Data VAR BYTE
    > > > >
    > > > > SERIN 16,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA]
    > > > > SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA,","]
    > > > >
    > > > > END
    > > > >
    > > > > Pin 14 is connected to a terminal prog on another PC
    > > to monitor
    > > > > the data. I expected to see one number and comma come
    > > through and
    > > > > nothing else, i.e.:
    > > > >
    > > > > 49,
    > > > >
    > > > > However, it still receives and echoes all the data, and the
    > > > > output looks like:
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > 49,12,10,12,11,61,12,12,12,13,40,12,14,12,15,6,12,16,12,17,29,12,18,
    > > > > 12
    > > > > ,19,16,12,20,12,21
    > > > >
    > > > > Is SERIN and SEROUT causing some kind of auto-loop? Any ideas
    > > > > what's going on? This is totally bizarre!
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-05-29 06:44
    My guess: your transmitting PC is causing your Stamp to reset and
    repeat the program over and over. This happens often if the PC
    terminal program manipulates DTR. To determine if this is the case:

    Data VAR BYTE

    SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]"Begin"]
    SERIN 16,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA]
    SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA,","]
    END

    The "Begin" message will only be transmitted at the start of the
    program, so if you see it more than once your program is restarting.
    See the SERIN/SEROUT instructions in the manual to see how to get
    past this problem if appropriate.


    Regards,

    Steve
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-05-29 14:42
    YES! That's the problem. Thanks Steve! Looks like Al's suggestion of
    using a different input pin will fix the problem, but now I know what was
    going on as well.
    Thanks again to everyone!
    Don
    Original Message
    From: "S Parkis" <parkiss@e...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:44 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?


    > My guess: your transmitting PC is causing your Stamp to reset and
    > repeat the program over and over. This happens often if the PC
    > terminal program manipulates DTR. To determine if this is the case:
    >
    > Data VAR BYTE
    >
    > SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]"Begin"]
    > SERIN 16,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA]
    > SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA,","]
    > END
    >
    > The "Begin" message will only be transmitted at the start of the
    > program, so if you see it more than once your program is restarting.
    > See the SERIN/SEROUT instructions in the manual to see how to get
    > past this problem if appropriate.
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Steve
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-05-29 14:50
    Good catch Steve.

    Our ASP-II has a jumper to disconnect DTR for just this reason. You
    might consider something similar -- you could isolate DTR when operating
    and resume it while programming. You can also sometimes set your PC
    software to leave DTR alone (for example, handshaking=none).

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm



    >
    Original Message
    > From: Don [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ZzOI6tSN6yJMXerRz7GKbj8iLqn7WBCbU8-7iN3u5sF-iTaJRYRrBH7i4tbRMNlFVSo7NWnmYH-o9xBSe7ozIy4GfQ]renegade.engineer@v...[/url
    > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:42 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?
    >
    >
    > YES! That's the problem. Thanks Steve! Looks like Al's
    > suggestion of using a different input pin will fix the
    > problem, but now I know what was going on as well.
    > Thanks again to everyone!
    > Don
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "S Parkis" <parkiss@e...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:44 PM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SERIN auto-looping?
    >
    >
    > > My guess: your transmitting PC is causing your Stamp to reset and
    > > repeat the program over and over. This happens often if the PC
    > > terminal program manipulates DTR. To determine if this is the case:
    > >
    > > Data VAR BYTE
    > >
    > > SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]"Begin"]
    > > SERIN 16,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA]
    > > SEROUT 14,16624,[noparse][[/noparse]DEC DATA,","]
    > > END
    > >
    > > The "Begin" message will only be transmitted at the start of the
    > > program, so if you see it more than once your program is
    > restarting.
    > > See the SERIN/SEROUT instructions in the manual to see how
    > to get past
    > > this problem if appropriate.
    > >
    > >
    > > Regards,
    > >
    > > Steve
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