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LED Driver

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2002-04-22 20:28 in General Discussion
I want to drive several hundred leds (2.0V, 20ma per) from a stamp. This
question is indirectly related to the stamp as I have a working stamp
interface.

The LED's will all come on and off at the same time.

What is the best way to drive this many LED's? Do they need to be subgrouped
with subgroup current regulation? How many can be combined in a parallel or
series array? Is there any significant advantage between serial and parallel
arrays?

Thanks,
Scott


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-22 15:15
    At 04:53 AM 4/22/02 -0400, scottsmith13@a... wrote:
    >I want to drive several hundred leds (2.0V, 20ma per) from a stamp. This
    >question is indirectly related to the stamp as I have a working stamp
    >interface.
    >
    >The LED's will all come on and off at the same time.

    What kind of safety concerns are there? What are the consequences of
    several LEDs failing to operate?

    If the LEDs can be adequately protected from inquisitive fingers and if a
    group of LEDs that goes dark because of a defective LED that fails open
    (rare - most LEDs fail short) is not a major problem, I'd seriously
    consider using a relay or SSR to switch raw AC power to series
    strings. You will still need a current regulator for each string but the
    compliance voltage range can be limited so that you can use inexpensive
    components. A LM317HV is good for 60V - if you arrange the series strings
    so that they drop about 120V DC, a LM317HV configured as a constant current
    source will have about 30V dropped across it. Use a bridge rectifier to
    feed the whole string (no filter cap except for a 0.1 uF cap at the input
    of the LM317HV).

    The string will pulse at twice the line frequency much like a fluorescent
    tube - is that a problem?

    dwayne




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-22 20:03
    In a message dated 4/22/02 10:35:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    dwayner@p... writes:


    > At 04:53 AM 4/22/02 -0400, scottsmith13@a... wrote:
    > >I want to drive several hundred leds (2.0V, 20ma per) from a stamp. This
    > >question is indirectly related to the stamp as I have a working stamp
    > >interface.
    > >
    > >The LED's will all come on and off at the same time.
    >
    > What kind of safety concerns are there?
    What are the consequences of > several LEDs failing to operate?
    >

    A bit more background on the project: the LED's are being used as a visual
    signal on a motorvehicle; specifically a Ford F-350 that is being used for
    rescue work. The truck has a standard 12v system. Once the LED array is made,
    it will be semi-permanently sealed under a clear cover. While failure of a
    few LED's will not be catastrophic, I would like to minimize the effects of
    failure while still being realistic with the number of components. My current
    concept is to use one main voltage regulator to feed current limiting
    resistors on each array. Reasonable? Something better?


    > If the LEDs can be adequately protected from inquisitive fingers and if a
    > group of LEDs that goes dark because of a defective LED that fails open
    > (rare - most LEDs fail short) is not a major problem, I'd seriously
    > consider using a relay or SSR to switch raw AC power to series
    > strings. You will still need a current regulator for each string but the
    >



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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-22 20:28
    At 03:03 PM 4/22/02 -0400, scottsmith13@a... wrote:

    >A bit more background on the project: the LED's are being used as a visual
    >signal on a motorvehicle; specifically a Ford F-350 that is being used for
    >rescue work. The truck has a standard 12v system. Once the LED array is made,
    >it will be semi-permanently sealed under a clear cover. While failure of a
    >few LED's will not be catastrophic, I would like to minimize the effects of
    >failure while still being realistic with the number of components. My current
    >concept is to use one main voltage regulator to feed current limiting
    >resistors on each array. Reasonable? Something better?

    Easy! Don't bother with regulators - just put somewhere between 4 & 6 LEDs
    in series with a resistor selected to give you the desired current while
    the engine is idling - figure about 13.5 Vdc. If you were making many of
    these, I'd consider using boost regulators with a couple of dozen LEDs in
    series in each string but I suspect that will be more effort that you want
    to put in.

    dwayne


    Dwayne Reid <dwayner@p...>
    Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA
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