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BS2 to CMOS chips

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2002-04-22 05:48 in General Discussion
I am interfacig a BS2 to a UCN5833A which is a BiMOS chip (not sure
how that is different from CMOS). In the datasheet the recommend
putting a pulldown resistor at the input when interfacing to TTL.
Could anyone explain what that means and why?

many thanks


Al

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-21 23:52
    brownstamp <brownstamp@y...> wrote:
    I am interfacig a BS2 to a UCN5833A which is a BiMOS chip (not sure
    how that is different from CMOS). In the datasheet the recommend
    putting a pulldown resistor at the input when interfacing to TTL.
    Could anyone explain what that means and why?

    many thanks


    Al,

    Pulldown resistors are usually employed on the input of logic devices. It
    ensures noise doesn't cause them to erroneously change state. Say for instance
    you have an input on a logic device which needs to be at a logical low for most
    of the time you would put a 470k resistor between it and ground to ensure that
    any noise present on the input would not change the state of the chip. If a
    (valid) logical high (5V) were present on the BiCMOS chip that 470k resistor
    would appear to do nothing. Which is a good thing!

    -Randy


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-22 05:48
    >I am interfacig a BS2 to a UCN5833A which is a BiMOS chip (not sure
    >how that is different from CMOS). In the datasheet the recommend
    >putting a pulldown resistor at the input when interfacing to TTL.
    >Could anyone explain what that means and why?
    >many thanks
    >Al

    Hi Al,

    BiMOS is a method of integrated circuit fabrication that includes on
    the same device both bipolar transistors (for the output drive) and
    also CMOS (for the inputs and for the logic latches). It was a big
    deal when it first came out 20 or so years ago, as the two types of
    fab were thought to be incompatible.

    My guess would be that it should say "pullup" resistor, not
    "pulldown". (??) TTL is (or, "was") a "current sinking" logic family
    that was very good at pulling its outputs to low levels, but not very
    good at pulling them high. The interface from TTL outputs to CMOS
    inputs calls for a pullup resistor to assure that the voltage will go
    firmly above the CMOS logic threshold of Vdd/2.

    It is unlikely that you will be driving this chip with real TTL. You
    might be driving it with "TTL compatible" logic, but that is a
    different thing. It is capable of sinking enough current to satisfy
    an old TTL gate, but it is also usually capable of full CMOS drive
    without a pullup. Is that confusing enough?

    -- regards,
    Tracy Allen
    electronically monitored ecosystems
    mailto:tracy@e...
    http://www.emesystems.com
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