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Javelin Stamp

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2003-01-27 16:07 in General Discussion
Hello,

There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to learn about the
Javelin Stamp.

In addition, there's a YahooGroup at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/javelinstamp/

Sincerely,

Ken Gracey, Parallax Inc.
Control it with a BASIC Stamp: www.parallaxinc.com
BASIC Stamps for education: www.stampsinclass.com
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-17 22:14
    Is that URL ok Ken ?

    thanks,

    Leroy

    Ken Gracey wrote:
    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
    > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to learn about the
    > Javelin Stamp.
    >
    > In addition, there's a YahooGroup at
    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/javelinstamp/
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > Ken Gracey, Parallax Inc.
    > Control it with a BASIC Stamp: www.parallaxinc.com
    > BASIC Stamps for education: www.stampsinclass.com
    >
    > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-18 01:51
    Tried it, got redirected to http://www.javelinstamp.com/javelline.css and then a
    404.

    Kevin

    Ken Gracey wrote:
    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
    > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to learn about the
    > Javelin Stamp.
    >
    > In addition, there's a YahooGroup at
    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/javelinstamp/
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > Ken Gracey, Parallax Inc.
    > Control it with a BASIC Stamp: www.parallaxinc.com
    > BASIC Stamps for education: www.stampsinclass.com
    >
    > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
    > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
    > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and Body
    of the message will be ignored.
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-18 06:20
    Hey that looks cool!

    Just one question:

    Obviously, we'd use the Java Editor/Compiler, but as it's pin outs are the
    same as the BS2 series, can we program it using our existing BOE board?

    If so, then all I'd need to order would be the CD, and a chip or two to play
    with.


    --
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    Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE

    Web Hosting and Electronics R&D
    Club Coordinator, Victoria University of Wellington Hockey Club

    Hm: +64 4 972 7567
    Mb: +64 21 536 627
    87 Spencer Street
    Crofton Downs
    Wellington
    New Zealand

    "To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is
    half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be."

    No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the
    Dog next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you! Those of you
    with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that
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    >From: "Ken Gracey" <kgracey@p...>
    >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>, <stampsinclass@yahoogroups.com>
    >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Javelin Stamp
    >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 9:43 AM
    >

    > Hello,
    >
    > There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
    > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to learn about the
    > Javelin Stamp.
    >
    > In addition, there's a YahooGroup at
    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/javelinstamp/
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > Ken Gracey, Parallax Inc.
    > Control it with a BASIC Stamp: www.parallaxinc.com
    > BASIC Stamps for education: www.stampsinclass.com
    >
    >
    >
    > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-18 06:27
    I don't think it would be too much for me to say that yes, it will
    program with any normal BS2 setup (including a BOE or an ASP-II, etc.).

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm



    >
    Original Message
    > From: Ben Lennard [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=jNuKCHvK1bOzU7l8iTwkmOrzW1uttMrRPUEvkoclQP0lHK-QNt-YPubIE0ah9VE_TyhMaZ5O4-X31kmqcdWDK04]postmaster@s...[/url
    > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 12:20 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Javelin Stamp
    >
    >
    > Hey that looks cool!
    >
    > Just one question:
    >
    > Obviously, we'd use the Java Editor/Compiler, but as it's pin
    > outs are the same as the BS2 series, can we program it using
    > our existing BOE board?
    >
    > If so, then all I'd need to order would be the CD, and a chip
    > or two to play with.
    >
    >
    > --
    > http://www.lennard.net.nz/
    > Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE
    >
    > Web Hosting and Electronics R&D
    > Club Coordinator, Victoria University of Wellington Hockey Club
    >
    > Hm: +64 4 972 7567
    > Mb: +64 21 536 627
    > 87 Spencer Street
    > Crofton Downs
    > Wellington
    > New Zealand
    >
    > "To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist,
    > the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice
    > as big as it needs to be."
    >
    > No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email,
    > although the Dog next door is living on borrowed time, let me
    > tell you! Those of you with an overwhelming fear of the
    > unknown will be gratified to learn that there is no hidden
    > message revealed by reading this warning backwards.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > >From: "Ken Gracey" <kgracey@p...>
    > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>, <stampsinclass@yahoogroups.com>
    > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Javelin Stamp
    > >Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 9:43 AM
    > >
    >
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
    > > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to learn
    > > about the Javelin Stamp.
    > >
    > > In addition, there's a YahooGroup at
    > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/javelinstamp/
    > >
    > > Sincerely,
    > >
    > > Ken Gracey, Parallax Inc.
    > > Control it with a BASIC Stamp: www.parallaxinc.com
    > > BASIC Stamps for education: www.stampsinclass.com
    > >
    > >
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-18 11:15
    I see you wondered about that too... I only skimmed the documentation
    quickly, but did not see pin-to-pin compatibility with a BS2 mentioned
    anywhere.

    Original Message

    > Hey that looks cool!
    >
    > Just one question:
    >
    > Obviously, we'd use the Java Editor/Compiler, but as it's pin outs are the
    > same as the BS2 series, can we program it using our existing BOE board?
    >
    > If so, then all I'd need to order would be the CD, and a chip or two to
    play
    > with.

    > > There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
    > > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to learn about
    the
    > > Javelin Stamp.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-18 14:05
    Yes, the Javelin is pin-compatible with all of the 24-pin BS2
    modules. It draws about the same current as a BS2sx (60 mA) but can
    tolerate higher input voltages (24 vdc) because of the switching
    regulator.

    The toughest part for BASIC Stamp programmers will be adopting to the
    very strict rules of Java. It's worth it, though.

    -- Jon Williams


    --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > I see you wondered about that too... I only skimmed the
    documentation
    > quickly, but did not see pin-to-pin compatibility with a BS2
    mentioned
    > anywhere.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > Hey that looks cool!
    > >
    > > Just one question:
    > >
    > > Obviously, we'd use the Java Editor/Compiler, but as it's pin
    outs are the
    > > same as the BS2 series, can we program it using our existing BOE
    board?
    > >
    > > If so, then all I'd need to order would be the CD, and a chip or
    two to
    > play
    > > with.
    >
    > > > There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
    > > > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to
    learn about
    > the
    > > > Javelin Stamp.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-18 17:13
    Andy Lindsey from Parallax was giving highly enthusiastic demos of
    the Javelin Stamp at the Embedded System Conference in San Francisco
    last week, and I picked up a version 0.9 beta demo package. The chip
    itself is "pearl" color. It is going to be a long learning curve for
    me to use it, because I am not a java or C programmer to start, and a
    lot of the way things are structured are unfamiliar. The manual has a
    lot of tutorial material, some of it written by our own Al Williams,
    I believe.

    These links still work:
    http://www.parallaxinc.com/javelin_stamp_details.htm
    http://www.parallaxinc.com/javelin_stamp.htm
    with a link to Al Williams' embedded systems article

    As usual, Parallax had one of the most lively exhibits at the show,
    and they did not have to resort to hiring actors dressed up as
    Klingons to attract a crowd. (Although, Parallax does harbor some
    great actors!)

    -- Tracy
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-19 03:34
    Curious question, why not just learn C instead of Java
    ? It doesn't seem like java has any advantage ?




    --- Tracy Allen <tracy@e...> wrote:
    > Andy Lindsey from Parallax was giving highly
    > enthusiastic demos of
    > the Javelin Stamp at the Embedded System Conference
    > in San Francisco
    > last week, and I picked up a version 0.9 beta demo
    > package. The chip
    > itself is "pearl" color. It is going to be a long
    > learning curve for
    > me to use it, because I am not a java or C
    > programmer to start, and a
    > lot of the way things are structured are unfamiliar.
    > The manual has a
    > lot of tutorial material, some of it written by our
    > own Al Williams,
    > I believe.
    >
    > These links still work:
    >
    > http://www.parallaxinc.com/javelin_stamp_details.htm
    > http://www.parallaxinc.com/javelin_stamp.htm
    > with a link to Al Williams' embedded systems
    > article
    >
    > As usual, Parallax had one of the most lively
    > exhibits at the show,
    > and they did not have to resort to hiring actors
    > dressed up as
    > Klingons to attract a crowd. (Although, Parallax
    > does harbor some
    > great actors!)
    >
    > -- Tracy
    >
    >
    > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-19 04:04
    You can compare Java to C++, but not really to C. Java is object-
    oriented (as is C++). More and more it is becoming the standard for
    computer science and technology degrees. Java's touted write-once,
    run anyway structure, is a great benefit, even if it doesn't live up
    to it all the time.

    The Object-oriented structure really loans itself to devices, where
    pins, IC's and what-not become objects which can be easily used
    provided a 'class' file for them. I am excited about the possibility
    of teaching Java using the Javelin. And the IDE is great with
    debugging features such as single-stepping through instructions.

    My goal is to be magnetically-suspending a ball by the end of next
    weekend with the Javelin. Then on to a StampPlot object class [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    Hey, Tracy Allen, I didn't know you were at the ESC conference.
    Sorry I missed being introduced.

    -Martin Hebel


    --- In basicstamps@y..., Not Another Email <fake_email69@y...> wrote:
    > Curious question, why not just learn C instead of Java
    > ? It doesn't seem like java has any advantage ?
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-19 10:18
    > The toughest part for BASIC Stamp programmers will be adopting to the
    > very strict rules of Java. It's worth it, though.

    Heh, I played with Java once. Hated it. :-\

    I still have my "Teach Yourself Java in 21 days" book (Sams Publishing),
    which comes with a CD with a Java compiler for Mac/Win/Unix, so I may blow
    the dust off it and go through it again. Should be easier now that I've
    been programming in RealBasic for a while, and have almost got the idea of
    Object Oriented Programming.

    Assume I can order them direct from Parallax? Dick Smith Electronics will
    probably put a ridiculous margin on them...

    Cheers,

    Ben in Windy Wellington, New Zealand.

    --
    http://www.lennard.net.nz/
    Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE

    Web Hosting and Electronics R&D
    Club Coordinator, Victoria University of Wellington Hockey Club

    Hm: +64 4 972 7567
    Mb: +64 21 536 627
    87 Spencer Street
    Crofton Downs
    Wellington
    New Zealand

    "To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is
    half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be."

    No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the
    Dog next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you! Those of you
    with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that
    there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards.




    >From: "jonwms62" <jonwms@a...>
    >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    >Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 2:05 AM
    >

    > Yes, the Javelin is pin-compatible with all of the 24-pin BS2
    > modules. It draws about the same current as a BS2sx (60 mA) but can
    > tolerate higher input voltages (24 vdc) because of the switching
    > regulator.
    >
    > The toughest part for BASIC Stamp programmers will be adopting to the
    > very strict rules of Java. It's worth it, though.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    >> I see you wondered about that too... I only skimmed the
    > documentation
    >> quickly, but did not see pin-to-pin compatibility with a BS2
    > mentioned
    >> anywhere.
    >>
    >>
    Original Message
    >>
    >> > Hey that looks cool!
    >> >
    >> > Just one question:
    >> >
    >> > Obviously, we'd use the Java Editor/Compiler, but as it's pin
    > outs are the
    >> > same as the BS2 series, can we program it using our existing BOE
    > board?
    >> >
    >> > If so, then all I'd need to order would be the CD, and a chip or
    > two to
    >> play
    >> > with.
    >>
    >> > > There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
    >> > > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to
    > learn about
    >> the
    >> > > Javelin Stamp.
    >
    >
    > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-19 10:28
    I've got loads of those teach yourself <????> in 21 days.

    What happens is this:

    I buy the book.

    I practice the first two chapters or so. (eg half day out of 21)

    I get bored and look stuff up on the Internet instead.

    The consequence is that I've been programming in Java for 4 years, and still
    have got another 20.5 days to finish learning [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    Regards,

    Tony
    Original Message
    From: "Ben Lennard" <postmaster@s...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:18 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp


    > > The toughest part for BASIC Stamp programmers will be adopting to the
    > > very strict rules of Java. It's worth it, though.
    >
    > Heh, I played with Java once. Hated it. :-\
    >
    > I still have my "Teach Yourself Java in 21 days" book (Sams Publishing),
    > which comes with a CD with a Java compiler for Mac/Win/Unix, so I may blow
    > the dust off it and go through it again. Should be easier now that I've
    > been programming in RealBasic for a while, and have almost got the idea of
    > Object Oriented Programming.
    >
    > Assume I can order them direct from Parallax? Dick Smith Electronics will
    > probably put a ridiculous margin on them...
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Ben in Windy Wellington, New Zealand.
    >
    > --
    > http://www.lennard.net.nz/
    > Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE
    >
    > Web Hosting and Electronics R&D
    > Club Coordinator, Victoria University of Wellington Hockey Club
    >
    > Hm: +64 4 972 7567
    > Mb: +64 21 536 627
    > 87 Spencer Street
    > Crofton Downs
    > Wellington
    > New Zealand
    >
    > "To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is
    > half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to
    be."
    >
    > No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the
    > Dog next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you! Those of you
    > with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that
    > there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > >From: "jonwms62" <jonwms@a...>
    > >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    > >Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 2:05 AM
    > >
    >
    > > Yes, the Javelin is pin-compatible with all of the 24-pin BS2
    > > modules. It draws about the same current as a BS2sx (60 mA) but can
    > > tolerate higher input voltages (24 vdc) because of the switching
    > > regulator.
    > >
    > > The toughest part for BASIC Stamp programmers will be adopting to the
    > > very strict rules of Java. It's worth it, though.
    > >
    > > -- Jon Williams
    > >
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > >> I see you wondered about that too... I only skimmed the
    > > documentation
    > >> quickly, but did not see pin-to-pin compatibility with a BS2
    > > mentioned
    > >> anywhere.
    > >>
    > >>
    Original Message
    > >>
    > >> > Hey that looks cool!
    > >> >
    > >> > Just one question:
    > >> >
    > >> > Obviously, we'd use the Java Editor/Compiler, but as it's pin
    > > outs are the
    > >> > same as the BS2 series, can we program it using our existing BOE
    > > board?
    > >> >
    > >> > If so, then all I'd need to order would be the CD, and a chip or
    > > two to
    > >> play
    > >> > with.
    > >>
    > >> > > There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
    > >> > > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to
    > > learn about
    > >> the
    > >> > > Javelin Stamp.
    > >
    > >
    > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-19 14:02
    Hi Tony,

    Don't forget the Javelin uses a Java-like language. If you download the
    manual PDF you'll see that there are two chapters geared at learning the
    Java-like language.

    Several things make it easier.

    1) No GUI. Java isn't that hard if you quit trying to learn Sun's
    bizarre graphics system (especially the old AWT).

    2) The documentation is written assuming you might not care to use every
    object oriented feature in the world. Don't get me wrong, I like OOP,
    use it, and encourage you to use the Javelin's OOP features. However, if
    you want, you can use the editor to generate a skeleton program that has
    a main() function and write everything in the main function. Of course,
    it isn't much harder to slip in some static functions... And so you can
    add features to your tool box little by little as you get more
    comfortable with them.

    I guess my point is that you can elect to start off being an "object
    consumer" instead of an "object provider". Parallax has a whole set of
    objects that let you use UARTs (that read and write in the
    background!!!), PWM, A/D, D/A, etc. We will have objects for things like
    PAK1s and I'm sure there will be others.

    Just as an example, here is a snippet of code that uses a PAK-I to print
    a square root table:

    public static void main() {
    int v;
    PAK1 pak1=new PAK1(CPU.pin15,CPU.pin14);
    sqrttable(pak1);
    pak1.intLoadX(22);
    pak1.intLoadY(7);
    pak1.div(); // pi is almost = 22/7
    pak1.debug(1); // prints +3.142 (the 1 argument is digits b4
    decimal)
    System.out.println("Done");
    }

    Then here is the sqrttable subroutine:
    public static void sqrttable(PAK1 pak1) {
    int i;
    for (i=1;i<=1000;i++) {
    pak1.intLoadX(i);
    pak1.debug(4);
    System.out.print(" ");
    pak1.sqrt();
    pak1.debug(2);
    System.out.println(" ");
    }
    }

    You can see that by making PAK1 an object, it is easy to call methods
    like sqrt, debug, intLoadX, etc. With the Basic Stamp, this same code is
    messier since there are no formal parametes:

    Fpx=I
    Gosub FintLoadX ' or whatever

    Also, if you wanted to use multiple PAK-Is with the Javelin, it would be
    trivial to just make a second copy of the PAK-I object. With the Stamp
    libraries, it would be tough! Of course, you probably don't need more
    than one PAK-I, but you get the idea.

    So read the manual with an open mind first. Then see if you want to go
    out and read a Java book. You might be surprised...


    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm

    >
    Original Message
    > From: tony.wells@a... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=M6tIO_WLr9liyUtzTOvHGiyx6FXvfJ9_8AE_6HIzpPnknpdHkmOuvTQorbz9osC56VDXVK8gUjqd0Nuy463J-jSE]tony.wells@a...[/url
    > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:28 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    >
    >
    > I've got loads of those teach yourself <????> in 21 days.
    >
    > What happens is this:
    >
    > I buy the book.
    >
    > I practice the first two chapters or so. (eg half day out of 21)
    >
    > I get bored and look stuff up on the Internet instead.
    >
    > The consequence is that I've been programming in Java for 4
    > years, and still have got another 20.5 days to finish learning [noparse]:)[/noparse]
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Tony
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "Ben Lennard" <postmaster@s...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:18 AM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    >
    >
    > > > The toughest part for BASIC Stamp programmers will be adopting to
    > > > the very strict rules of Java. It's worth it, though.
    > >
    > > Heh, I played with Java once. Hated it. :-\
    > >
    > > I still have my "Teach Yourself Java in 21 days" book (Sams
    > > Publishing), which comes with a CD with a Java compiler for
    > > Mac/Win/Unix, so I may blow the dust off it and go through
    > it again.
    > > Should be easier now that I've been programming in RealBasic for a
    > > while, and have almost got the idea of Object Oriented Programming.
    > >
    > > Assume I can order them direct from Parallax? Dick Smith
    > Electronics
    > > will probably put a ridiculous margin on them...
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > >
    > > Ben in Windy Wellington, New Zealand.
    > >
    > > --
    > > http://www.lennard.net.nz/
    > > Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE
    > >
    > > Web Hosting and Electronics R&D
    > > Club Coordinator, Victoria University of Wellington Hockey Club
    > >
    > > Hm: +64 4 972 7567
    > > Mb: +64 21 536 627
    > > 87 Spencer Street
    > > Crofton Downs
    > > Wellington
    > > New Zealand
    > >
    > > "To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the
    > pessimist, the glass
    > > is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big
    > as it needs
    > > to
    > be."
    > >
    > > No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email,
    > although the
    > > Dog next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you!
    > Those of
    > > you with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to
    > > learn that there is no hidden message revealed by reading
    > this warning
    > > backwards.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > >From: "jonwms62" <jonwms@a...>
    > > >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    > > >Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 2:05 AM
    > > >
    > >
    > > > Yes, the Javelin is pin-compatible with all of the 24-pin BS2
    > > > modules. It draws about the same current as a BS2sx (60
    > mA) but can
    > > > tolerate higher input voltages (24 vdc) because of the switching
    > > > regulator.
    > > >
    > > > The toughest part for BASIC Stamp programmers will be adopting to
    > > > the very strict rules of Java. It's worth it, though.
    > > >
    > > > -- Jon Williams
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > > >> I see you wondered about that too... I only skimmed the
    > > > documentation
    > > >> quickly, but did not see pin-to-pin compatibility with a BS2
    > > > mentioned
    > > >> anywhere.
    > > >>
    > > >>
    Original Message
    > > >>
    > > >> > Hey that looks cool!
    > > >> >
    > > >> > Just one question:
    > > >> >
    > > >> > Obviously, we'd use the Java Editor/Compiler, but as it's pin
    > > > outs are the
    > > >> > same as the BS2 series, can we program it using our
    > existing BOE
    > > > board?
    > > >> >
    > > >> > If so, then all I'd need to order would be the CD, and
    > a chip or
    > > > two to
    > > >> play
    > > >> > with.
    > > >>
    > > >> > > There's some new information on a
    > soon-to-be-released product
    > > >> > > at www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual
    > and IDE to
    > > > learn about
    > > >> the
    > > >> > > Javelin Stamp.
    > > >
    > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-19 14:54
    Thanks Al for the info - clearly you have the benefit of playing with the
    unit ahead of us lot.

    I was a bit tongue in cheek with my prev email, and perhaps being a tad too
    ironic - according to my reckoning with all the books claiming teach
    yourself <???> in 21 days I've got, I am still behind by about 18 weeks in
    book-time in learning to program - but I've been programming microprocessors
    since 1977 !

    Anyway, I guess we are are all looking forward to playing with the Javelin
    and trying it out.

    T

    Original Message
    From: "Al Williams" <alw@a...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:02 PM
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp


    > Hi Tony,
    >
    > Don't forget the Javelin uses a Java-like language. If you download the
    > manual PDF you'll see that there are two chapters geared at learning the
    > Java-like language.
    >
    > Several things make it easier.
    >
    > 1) No GUI. Java isn't that hard if you quit trying to learn Sun's
    > bizarre graphics system (especially the old AWT).
    >
    > 2) The documentation is written assuming you might not care to use every
    > object oriented feature in the world. Don't get me wrong, I like OOP,
    > use it, and encourage you to use the Javelin's OOP features. However, if
    > you want, you can use the editor to generate a skeleton program that has
    > a main() function and write everything in the main function. Of course,
    > it isn't much harder to slip in some static functions... And so you can
    > add features to your tool box little by little as you get more
    > comfortable with them.
    >
    > I guess my point is that you can elect to start off being an "object
    > consumer" instead of an "object provider". Parallax has a whole set of
    > objects that let you use UARTs (that read and write in the
    > background!!!), PWM, A/D, D/A, etc. We will have objects for things like
    > PAK1s and I'm sure there will be others.
    >
    > Just as an example, here is a snippet of code that uses a PAK-I to print
    > a square root table:
    >
    > public static void main() {
    > int v;
    > PAK1 pak1=new PAK1(CPU.pin15,CPU.pin14);
    > sqrttable(pak1);
    > pak1.intLoadX(22);
    > pak1.intLoadY(7);
    > pak1.div(); // pi is almost = 22/7
    > pak1.debug(1); // prints +3.142 (the 1 argument is digits b4
    > decimal)
    > System.out.println("Done");
    > }
    >
    > Then here is the sqrttable subroutine:
    > public static void sqrttable(PAK1 pak1) {
    > int i;
    > for (i=1;i<=1000;i++) {
    > pak1.intLoadX(i);
    > pak1.debug(4);
    > System.out.print(" ");
    > pak1.sqrt();
    > pak1.debug(2);
    > System.out.println(" ");
    > }
    > }
    >
    > You can see that by making PAK1 an object, it is easy to call methods
    > like sqrt, debug, intLoadX, etc. With the Basic Stamp, this same code is
    > messier since there are no formal parametes:
    >
    > Fpx=I
    > Gosub FintLoadX ' or whatever
    >
    > Also, if you wanted to use multiple PAK-Is with the Javelin, it would be
    > trivial to just make a second copy of the PAK-I object. With the Stamp
    > libraries, it would be tough! Of course, you probably don't need more
    > than one PAK-I, but you get the idea.
    >
    > So read the manual with an open mind first. Then see if you want to go
    > out and read a Java book. You might be surprised...
    >
    >
    > Al Williams
    > AWC
    > * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    > http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm
    >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: tony.wells@a... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=G3o5Q_n9C-0j5e4c6RMdCnj_93GTXHxvG-gZ14jIapaq4pNFmQ59NuQrFIAkdx1ShmYEsANGK3iKOUY64w]tony.wells@a...[/url
    > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:28 AM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    > >
    > >
    > > I've got loads of those teach yourself <????> in 21 days.
    > >
    > > What happens is this:
    > >
    > > I buy the book.
    > >
    > > I practice the first two chapters or so. (eg half day out of 21)
    > >
    > > I get bored and look stuff up on the Internet instead.
    > >
    > > The consequence is that I've been programming in Java for 4
    > > years, and still have got another 20.5 days to finish learning [noparse]:)[/noparse]
    > >
    > > Regards,
    > >
    > > Tony
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: "Ben Lennard" <postmaster@s...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:18 AM
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    > >
    > >
    > > > > The toughest part for BASIC Stamp programmers will be adopting to
    > > > > the very strict rules of Java. It's worth it, though.
    > > >
    > > > Heh, I played with Java once. Hated it. :-\
    > > >
    > > > I still have my "Teach Yourself Java in 21 days" book (Sams
    > > > Publishing), which comes with a CD with a Java compiler for
    > > > Mac/Win/Unix, so I may blow the dust off it and go through
    > > it again.
    > > > Should be easier now that I've been programming in RealBasic for a
    > > > while, and have almost got the idea of Object Oriented Programming.
    > > >
    > > > Assume I can order them direct from Parallax? Dick Smith
    > > Electronics
    > > > will probably put a ridiculous margin on them...
    > > >
    > > > Cheers,
    > > >
    > > > Ben in Windy Wellington, New Zealand.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > http://www.lennard.net.nz/
    > > > Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE
    > > >
    > > > Web Hosting and Electronics R&D
    > > > Club Coordinator, Victoria University of Wellington Hockey Club
    > > >
    > > > Hm: +64 4 972 7567
    > > > Mb: +64 21 536 627
    > > > 87 Spencer Street
    > > > Crofton Downs
    > > > Wellington
    > > > New Zealand
    > > >
    > > > "To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the
    > > pessimist, the glass
    > > > is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big
    > > as it needs
    > > > to
    > > be."
    > > >
    > > > No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email,
    > > although the
    > > > Dog next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you!
    > > Those of
    > > > you with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to
    > > > learn that there is no hidden message revealed by reading
    > > this warning
    > > > backwards.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > >From: "jonwms62" <jonwms@a...>
    > > > >To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    > > > >Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 2:05 AM
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > > Yes, the Javelin is pin-compatible with all of the 24-pin BS2
    > > > > modules. It draws about the same current as a BS2sx (60
    > > mA) but can
    > > > > tolerate higher input voltages (24 vdc) because of the switching
    > > > > regulator.
    > > > >
    > > > > The toughest part for BASIC Stamp programmers will be adopting to
    > > > > the very strict rules of Java. It's worth it, though.
    > > > >
    > > > > -- Jon Williams
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > > > >> I see you wondered about that too... I only skimmed the
    > > > > documentation
    > > > >> quickly, but did not see pin-to-pin compatibility with a BS2
    > > > > mentioned
    > > > >> anywhere.
    > > > >>
    > > > >>
    Original Message
    > > > >>
    > > > >> > Hey that looks cool!
    > > > >> >
    > > > >> > Just one question:
    > > > >> >
    > > > >> > Obviously, we'd use the Java Editor/Compiler, but as it's pin
    > > > > outs are the
    > > > >> > same as the BS2 series, can we program it using our
    > > existing BOE
    > > > > board?
    > > > >> >
    > > > >> > If so, then all I'd need to order would be the CD, and
    > > a chip or
    > > > > two to
    > > > >> play
    > > > >> > with.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> > > There's some new information on a
    > > soon-to-be-released product
    > > > >> > > at www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual
    > > and IDE to
    > > > > learn about
    > > > >> the
    > > > >> > > Javelin Stamp.
    > > > >
    > > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-20 23:28
    >..Even commodore
    >basic could do a statement like "if x=0 then y=y+1", something that you
    >can't do on a BS2 without an ugly label/branch.

    Can't is too strong a word...

    ' PBASIC if x=0 then y=y+1
    y = y + 1 - (x max 1)

    I agree that the structured programming on the Javelin is exciting,
    as are the other features like the background processing and the
    surfeit of memory. I'm still at the stage of looking at a Java
    program and saying, "what the heck is that??". When I have a few
    spare minutes I'll enjoy sitting down with the great examples in the
    manual. As much as I like the idea of the Javelin, the power
    consumption is too high for most of my apps in data loggers.

    -- regards
    Tracy Allen
    electronically monitored ecosystems
    http://www.emesystems.com
    mailto:tracy@e...
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-21 19:01
    It says that the Javelin Stamp has a 32bit timer. Does that mean it can count
    higher then the Basic Stamp or that it has finer resolution? If higher, then
    what is the highest count it can go to or what is the lowest resolution?

    Hank
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-21 20:42
    Tracy Allen wrote:
    << I'm still at the stage of looking at a Java program and saying, "what the
    heck is that??".

    (!) Yep, I used to feel that when looking at C. I used to have to take a
    tylenol before modifying someone else's C program. Now I'm cured, but these
    back to front shirts with the arms tied round the back slow me down when
    typing....

    T
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-22 04:02
    Just wanted to voice my opinion.
    Javilin looks killer. Looks like a great job, has break points and
    all to do inline debugging. Could use the shortcut keys ctrl j and
    put it also under the right click popup menu.
    I know a few people have asked if it is compatible with there bs2
    type development boards so I am going to assume that the cable is the
    same as a bs2 cable?
    I think that this is going to be a whole new and better way to
    program a microcontroller. Truthfully I left alone my bs2's and
    switched to sx's for the fact that you can make it look like you are
    doing more things at once with interupts and all. Have made great
    projects with the ethernet demo board wich has the socket for the
    jvm. Just don't have the $25k. LOL Anyway, Parallax I hope in the
    near future that you will be adding an ethernet port to the javalin
    to make it more networkable and all. Got to have ethernet. Or
    atleast a way to hook ethernet up to it.
    I also see that you have a modified java *.net onboard that does
    tcp/ip and udp. Great job.
    I am a bit miffed at the fact that when I installed the download that
    all my java files associated now look like a little javalin stamp.
    Way un-cool. It is a pain for us Java programmers out here. Need
    atleast a checkbox to stop this in the setup program.

    Why does the parallax.com page not have a link to javalinstamp.com?
    Is this going to be a seprate break off company?

    To all you out there that don't do java. Here is my tip to you. Go
    to your favorite book store and purchase a teach yourself in 21 days
    or 24Hrs java book. This will definitly help you out in the long run
    and you will be more fluent and able to do swing, jdc, awt, java
    beans, and applets for the internet. I did and I still purchase
    books from VB, C, C++, Java, JavaScript and now I am learning
    programming of the Palm os with one of these books. Oh yes, once
    java then C and C++ comes very natrually to you. Basically it is the
    same darn thing except stated diffrently but the style is the same.


    Also on a side note. Nasa used java for many programs and even used
    it for there mars missions.

    Timothy Hosey






    --- In basicstamps@y..., "Ken Gracey" <kgracey@p...> wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
    > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to learn
    about the
    > Javelin Stamp.
    >
    > In addition, there's a YahooGroup at
    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/javelinstamp/
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > Ken Gracey, Parallax Inc.
    > Control it with a BASIC Stamp: www.parallaxinc.com
    > BASIC Stamps for education: www.stampsinclass.com
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-22 16:22
    Hi,

    The Javelin uses a 32-bit timer that has a maximum value of 2^32-1 and a
    resolution of 8.68us.

    Regards,

    Chris.

    >
    Original Message
    > From: Hank Hagquist [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=UApJ8zTbask3opqjtb8oygpxHmk0dcTGydClV9skir1L5sA3LsO8u3BAOnR6RtY72gs5-P-YwNRTTZxosg]hankster@h...[/url
    > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:01 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    >
    >
    > It says that the Javelin Stamp has a 32bit timer. Does that
    > mean it can count higher then the Basic Stamp or that it has
    > finer resolution? If higher, then what is the highest count
    > it can go to or what is the lowest resolution?
    >
    > Hank
    >
    >
    >
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    [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-22 21:54
    Even with your special shirt, help is on the way with the
    brain-to-computer interface implanted in monkeys at Brown Univ. Should
    be some interesting stamp applications with that.

    Dennis

    Original Message
    From: tony.wells@a... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=fa6FrVxPnyBO00eeL41D3mdJL-Yq6Ms1QW6zulJmYc0qACxvj8F8h5rIUhjOvuN5MZmQLruqMB0vFrkkieKvIrU]tony.wells@a...[/url
    Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:42 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp

    (!) Yep, I used to feel that when looking at C. I used to have to take a
    tylenol before modifying someone else's C program. Now I'm cured, but
    these back to front shirts with the arms tied round the back slow me
    down when typing....
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-22 22:28
    Chris is correct regarding a stand-alone 32-bit timer. But as others
    have pointed out on similar topics, using RAM to accumulate the number
    of times a free-running timer overflows extends the potential counting
    range of a single timer to very large values.

    Dennis

    Original Message
    From: Chris Waters [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=jltzB5Efyl2pLaVN95Lh-_8Q0WfC6Wkx5cg0Z1Nr-v4M9fXbkl80vKUDsMAHG9AMGT0m3f9Oz62IZ_BDxWGS7Q]c.waters@c...[/url
    Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:23 AM
    To: 'basicstamps@yahoogroups.com'
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp


    Hi,

    The Javelin uses a 32-bit timer that has a maximum value of 2^32-1 and a
    resolution of 8.68us.

    Regards,

    Chris.

    >
    Original Message
    > From: Hank Hagquist [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=myGTeQ-hbMHFSvqhcY84PyZBBGRbYqpSP50j0EFEBM-RDquZz-ewS4bFRrDZ8H6J2MYwmRoLYDPpYXQJ]hankster@h...[/url
    > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:01 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    >
    >
    > It says that the Javelin Stamp has a 32bit timer. Does that
    > mean it can count higher then the Basic Stamp or that it has
    > finer resolution? If higher, then what is the highest count
    > it can go to or what is the lowest resolution?
    >
    > Hank
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-23 19:14
    Timothy,

    Good catch on the file associations; we'll fix that.

    Yes, same programming cable, footprint, pinout, works in all our existing
    carrier boards, etc.

    Yes, there is a very nice Ethernet board forthcoming. The prototype was
    demonstrated at Embedded Systems Conference last week, and it's pretty
    slick. Javelin Stamp plus Ethernet board was operating as a web server on a
    network during the Javelin Stamp Educators Course. Release date TBD.

    Regards,

    Andy

    Original Message
    From: automated_panels [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=r14LFJndQTTuX9mF1XGPghQCcFRxKs49LgbdNo5YrbZzk5STCvlgeU63P6Z6wUzs00J782IqsZChhJ4Z0-6kGQ]thosey@w...[/url
    Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:03 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp


    Just wanted to voice my opinion.
    Javilin looks killer. Looks like a great job, has break points and
    all to do inline debugging. Could use the shortcut keys ctrl j and
    put it also under the right click popup menu.
    I know a few people have asked if it is compatible with there bs2
    type development boards so I am going to assume that the cable is the
    same as a bs2 cable?
    I think that this is going to be a whole new and better way to
    program a microcontroller. Truthfully I left alone my bs2's and
    switched to sx's for the fact that you can make it look like you are
    doing more things at once with interupts and all. Have made great
    projects with the ethernet demo board wich has the socket for the
    jvm. Just don't have the $25k. LOL Anyway, Parallax I hope in the
    near future that you will be adding an ethernet port to the javalin
    to make it more networkable and all. Got to have ethernet. Or
    atleast a way to hook ethernet up to it.
    I also see that you have a modified java *.net onboard that does
    tcp/ip and udp. Great job.
    I am a bit miffed at the fact that when I installed the download that
    all my java files associated now look like a little javalin stamp.
    Way un-cool. It is a pain for us Java programmers out here. Need
    atleast a checkbox to stop this in the setup program.

    Why does the parallax.com page not have a link to javalinstamp.com?
    Is this going to be a seprate break off company?

    To all you out there that don't do java. Here is my tip to you. Go
    to your favorite book store and purchase a teach yourself in 21 days
    or 24Hrs java book. This will definitly help you out in the long run
    and you will be more fluent and able to do swing, jdc, awt, java
    beans, and applets for the internet. I did and I still purchase
    books from VB, C, C++, Java, JavaScript and now I am learning
    programming of the Palm os with one of these books. Oh yes, once
    java then C and C++ comes very natrually to you. Basically it is the
    same darn thing except stated diffrently but the style is the same.


    Also on a side note. Nasa used java for many programs and even used
    it for there mars missions.

    Timothy Hosey






    --- In basicstamps@y..., "Ken Gracey" <kgracey@p...> wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > There's some new information on a soon-to-be-released product at
    > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and IDE to learn
    about the
    > Javelin Stamp.
    >
    > In addition, there's a YahooGroup at
    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/javelinstamp/
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > Ken Gracey, Parallax Inc.
    > Control it with a BASIC Stamp: www.parallaxinc.com
    > BASIC Stamps for education: www.stampsinclass.com


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-03-24 03:04
    Andy,

    Sorry to take advantage of you but... I JUST received a BS2p
    Starter Kit and Plus kit this past week. I am just getting back
    into micros (after a 10 year hiatus). I subscribed to this
    newsgroup and find out about the "Javelin!" Question: Will I be
    able to use prototype board with the Javelin chip (by swapping
    chips, obviously)? If not I will contact Sales and get things
    exchanged.

    Thanks.

    Larry Woods


    >
    Original Message
    > From: Andrew Lindsay [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=9IrM_jjarS2IbOYvFTXUpvWaeaBGpHTSssxHnGebAhq2OjXCBViv-vg6Nz62EPAC09-EFzKKPMHRCSGjgc9ZoJpi]alindsay@p...[/url
    > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 12:14 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    >
    >
    > Timothy,
    >
    > Good catch on the file associations; we'll fix that.
    >
    > Yes, same programming cable, footprint, pinout, works
    > in all our existing
    > carrier boards, etc.
    >
    > Yes, there is a very nice Ethernet board forthcoming.
    > The prototype was
    > demonstrated at Embedded Systems Conference last week,
    > and it's pretty
    > slick. Javelin Stamp plus Ethernet board was
    > operating as a web server on a
    > network during the Javelin Stamp Educators Course.
    > Release date TBD.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Andy
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: automated_panels [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=en_zimgJefuwsZ7t15RbMmAJZZid3UmRP1vmzIfm9ML1tDQkV0UEi-7DKEMpuxyh45sOxIeHccOUWoZzpw]thosey@w...[/url
    > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:03 PM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin Stamp
    >
    >
    > Just wanted to voice my opinion.
    > Javilin looks killer. Looks like a great job, has
    > break points and
    > all to do inline debugging. Could use the shortcut
    > keys ctrl j and
    > put it also under the right click popup menu.
    > I know a few people have asked if it is compatible
    > with there bs2
    > type development boards so I am going to assume that
    > the cable is the
    > same as a bs2 cable?
    > I think that this is going to be a whole new and better way to
    > program a microcontroller. Truthfully I left alone my
    > bs2's and
    > switched to sx's for the fact that you can make it
    > look like you are
    > doing more things at once with interupts and all.
    > Have made great
    > projects with the ethernet demo board wich has the
    > socket for the
    > jvm. Just don't have the $25k. LOL Anyway, Parallax I
    > hope in the
    > near future that you will be adding an ethernet port
    > to the javalin
    > to make it more networkable and all. Got to have ethernet. Or
    > atleast a way to hook ethernet up to it.
    > I also see that you have a modified java *.net onboard
    > that does
    > tcp/ip and udp. Great job.
    > I am a bit miffed at the fact that when I installed
    > the download that
    > all my java files associated now look like a little
    > javalin stamp.
    > Way un-cool. It is a pain for us Java programmers out
    > here. Need
    > atleast a checkbox to stop this in the setup program.
    >
    > Why does the parallax.com page not have a link to
    > javalinstamp.com?
    > Is this going to be a seprate break off company?
    >
    > To all you out there that don't do java. Here is my
    > tip to you. Go
    > to your favorite book store and purchase a teach
    > yourself in 21 days
    > or 24Hrs java book. This will definitly help you out
    > in the long run
    > and you will be more fluent and able to do swing, jdc,
    > awt, java
    > beans, and applets for the internet. I did and I
    > still purchase
    > books from VB, C, C++, Java, JavaScript and now I am learning
    > programming of the Palm os with one of these books.
    > Oh yes, once
    > java then C and C++ comes very natrually to you.
    > Basically it is the
    > same darn thing except stated diffrently but the style
    > is the same.
    >
    >
    > Also on a side note. Nasa used java for many programs
    > and even used
    > it for there mars missions.
    >
    > Timothy Hosey
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., "Ken Gracey" <kgracey@p...> wrote:
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > There's some new information on a
    > soon-to-be-released product at
    > > www.javelinstamp.com. Download the User's Manual and
    > IDE to learn
    > about the
    > > Javelin Stamp.
    > >
    > > In addition, there's a YahooGroup at
    > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/javelinstamp/
    > >
    > > Sincerely,
    > >
    > > Ken Gracey, Parallax Inc.
    > > Control it with a BASIC Stamp: www.parallaxinc.com
    > > BASIC Stamps for education: www.stampsinclass.com
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-13 01:53
    I am trying to under stand Java for the new javelin stamp but I am having
    trouble understanding java. Could someone please make a code that will flash a
    led on and off so I might be able to understand what is going on?

    Thanks
    A. Conti


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-13 03:31
    Have you downloaded the manual at www.javelinstamp.com ? There are
    several simple examples there to get you started, including LED flashing
    and other stuff.

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm



    >
    Original Message
    > From: Anthony Conti [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=VWdHgHbVe_2O_oFCk1nAWfjTQufHvF-w-TZQ-a7neKJ4YXf1Y37gZmPyubHv0IvT1vsv3QDxeGW-xow]aconti@s...[/url
    > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:54 PM
    > To: Basic Stamp
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Javelin stamp
    >
    >
    > I am trying to under stand Java for the new javelin stamp but
    > I am having trouble understanding java. Could someone please
    > make a code that will flash a led on and off so I might be
    > able to understand what is going on?
    >
    > Thanks
    > A. Conti
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-13 03:54
    No, I did not know that there was a manual. I just downloaded it. thank you for
    your help

    A. Conti




    Have you downloaded the manual at www.javelinstamp.com ? There are
    several simple examples there to get you started, including LED flashing
    and other stuff.

    Al Williams
    AWC


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-13 05:25
    You can download the manual from www.javelinstamp.com -- it shows how to
    blink an LED and many other things.

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Parallax


    In a message dated 4/12/02 8:01:15 PM Central Daylight Time,
    aconti@s... writes:


    > I am trying to under stand Java for the new javelin stamp but I am having
    > trouble understanding java. Could someone please make a code that will
    >




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-14 02:50
    thanks Al, and jon. I did not know that there was a manual out for
    it yet.
    A. Conti


    --- In basicstamps@y..., jonwms@a... wrote:
    > You can download the manual from www.javelinstamp.com -- it shows
    how to
    > blink an LED and many other things.
    >
    > -- Jon Williams
    > -- Parallax
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 4/12/02 8:01:15 PM Central Daylight Time,
    > aconti@s... writes:
    >
    >
    > > I am trying to under stand Java for the new javelin stamp but I
    am having
    > > trouble understanding java. Could someone please make a code
    that will
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-14 19:45
    Hi Guys - do we have the latest on when the Javelin is ready for shipping?

    I'm second from the top of the queue in the UK, and I want to know whether
    to hold my breath waiting ;-)

    Tony


    Original Message
    From: "iamturbo2000" <aconti@s...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:50 AM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Javelin stamp


    > thanks Al, and jon. I did not know that there was a manual out for
    > it yet.
    > A. Conti
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., jonwms@a... wrote:
    > > You can download the manual from www.javelinstamp.com -- it shows
    > how to
    > > blink an LED and many other things.
    > >
    > > -- Jon Williams
    > > -- Parallax
    > >
    > >
    > > In a message dated 4/12/02 8:01:15 PM Central Daylight Time,
    > > aconti@s... writes:
    > >
    > >
    > > > I am trying to under stand Java for the new javelin stamp but I
    > am having
    > > > trouble understanding java. Could someone please make a code
    > that will
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
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    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-04-14 20:01
    Everything is looking good for a mid-May release. In the meantime, you can
    subscribe to the Javelin Stamp group at Yahoo.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/javelinstamp/

    -- Jon Williams
    -- Parallax


    In a message dated 4/14/02 1:53:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
    tony.wells@a... writes:


    > Hi Guys - do we have the latest on when the Javelin is ready for shipping?
    >
    > I'm second from the top of the queue in the UK, and I want to know whether
    > to hold my breath waiting ;-)
    >
    >




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-05-26 20:20
    Does one need to know Java to be able to use the Javelin Stamp? I would hope
    that it would be as intuitive as the Basic Stamp IDE. In other words, one
    does not really need to "know" Basic to use the Basic Stamp. Is this the same
    for the Javelin?
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