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G'day all,
New guy here from Wellington, New Zealand.
Been playing with the Stamps since Xmas 2001. Dreamed up a few ideas
already, and implemented some.
What I'm looking at, is turning an old SCSI CD Drive in to a stand alone CD
Audio Player.
Has anyone toyed with this sort of idea before? I have the SCSI command set
for CD Drives (from the T10 site), but one guy reckons the Stamp may not be
able to respond fast enough, and perhaps I'd need a SCSI controller chip in
the circuit as well.
Any ideas?
Visit my website below, and click on Electronics, then follow the links to
see what I've experimented with so far.
Cheers,
Ben.
--
http://www.lennard.net.nz/
Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE
Web Hosting and Electronics R&D
Club Coordinator, Victoria University of Wellington Hockey Club
Hm: +64 4 972 7567
Mb: +64 21 536 627
87 Spencer Street
Crofton Downs
Wellington
New Zealand
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From: "Stephen H Chapman" <chapman@t...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] RE:Javelin Stamp WAS:San Francisco Embedded
Systems Conference / Stamp Courses
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 5:00 PM
Robert, I suggest that you review your processor requirements for your
project before you elect a Stamp or any other micro controller solution. The
Parallax Stamp is a fine product. Your question of how much and when should
follow the understanding of your requirements and not lead your selection
based on price or whiz bang.
Steve.
Original Message
From: "Robert Staph" <rstaph@a...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:41 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] RE:Javelin Stamp WAS:San Francisco Embedded Systems
Conference / Stamp Courses
> This is more directed at the parallax inc people. I'd really like some
more
> information on the Javelin Stamp. Mainly, when and how much? I've run
into
> road block after road block with the Stamp 2p40 in my durrent project and
> I'm currently at the point of checking out micro-linux solutions or a
486DX
> based SBC.
>
> The execution on the Stamp 2p40 is about 5 times too slow for what I need
> now, how does the Javelin compare to the BS2p40 in terms of execution
power?
> How about string manipulation?
>
> Finally, floating point math.... is it in there or is parallax still
> ignoring the decimal point?
>
> Don't get me wrong the BS2p40 is great for amateur robotics, but when I
> first heard about the BS2p40 I thought it would be much more capable than
it
> actually is. I'm having a very hard time finding enough CPU cycles to
> actually get any use out of more than 8 stamp lines and still keep my loop
> under 2 seconds. The target is the entire loop in 300ms or less, I'd be
> happy with 400ms.
>
> Smile, if you answer me then there wont be anything to announce later. If
> you can answer me, do it in private, there is no way I can justify flying
> out to the conference if the javelin will be a let down like the p40.
>
> Robert Staph, W3RCS
> The Center for Advanced Technologies
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: "Al Williams" <alw@a...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 9:38 PM
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] San Francisco Embedded Systems Conference /
Stamp
> Courses
>
>
> > Since Jon opened the door, I can tell you that you'll enjoy the Javelin.
> > The Java-like language adds a lot of "pro" features to your programs
> > like real subroutines with parameters and the ability to use and create
> > reusable pieces.
> >
> > We took special care with the Javelin manual to make sure that if you
> > didn't know any Java you'd be able to get started easily and I think you
> > will enjoy the manual.
> >
> > One thing to remember about Java, C++, or any language that provides
> > advanced features is that you often don't have to take advantage of the
> > advanced parts unless you want to. Sure, the purists may frown, but you
> > can be very productive without getting into the more advanced
> > techniques.
> >
> > If you want to get started with Java early, there are a few ways you can
> > go. If you are C programmer, the Java in a Nutshell book is great
> > because it is succinct and lets you bridge what you know to what you
> > don't know. If you aren't a C programmer, you probably will want to skip
> > that book, however.
> >
> > You can download the Java JDK for free at http://java.sun.com and they
> > also have several tutorials at http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/.
> > As you might expect, avoid the GUI stuff, the sound, the 3d graphics,
> > and the databases, and the JavaBeans. However, don't skip over the
> > network stuff (meaningful glance) :-)
> >
> > I've written many columns about Java at http://www.newarchitectmag.com
> > (look in archives for my Java@Work column). I also run Java classes from
> > time to time, but I haven't had any public ones scheduled for a while --
> > maybe I should set something up soon.
> >
> > Keep waiting -- it'll be worth it!
> >
> > Al Williams
> > AWC
> > * Floating point math for the Stamp, PIC, SX, or any microcontroller
> > http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak1.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: jonwms@a... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=Xqgx6FETpB5zhJvY0EVyM6FYuveh5boxKHJ4npYSK_S7yHGvaChXoFeA2Dvwj1gXaHRG2bMj7Q]jonwms@a...[/url
> > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 7:51 PM
> > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] San Francisco Embedded Systems
> > > Conference / Stamp Courses
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 2/18/02 5:39:01 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > fuel@b... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > For dumbums like me, where is some basic info on the Java
> > > programming
> > > > conventions, ie info suitable for new programmers. Its
> > > obviously heaps
> > > >
> > >
> > > Well, I'm really not a Java guy (yet), so maybe my namesake
> > > (and fellow
> > > Texan), Al Williams, will step in and bail me out.
> > >
> > > First ... go to your favorite technical book store to find
> > > books on Java. Of
> > > course, the Javelin will come with a very good book --
> > > written by Al (who has
> > > a TON of Java experience).
> > >
> > > I think it's fair to say no, we haven't simplified Java.
> > > There is a specific
> > > definition and remaining as true to that as possible is
> > > important for the
> > > Javelin to be accepted by hard-core Java programmers. Of
> > > course, being an
> > > embedded controller, the Java used is a subset of what is
> > > found on a PC and
> > > programmers will have to deal with some differences. That
> > > said, I have
> > > successfully run several general examples -- virtually
> > > unchanged -- from an
> > > off-the-shelf Java book.
> > >
> > > -- Jon Williams
> > > -- Parallax
> > >
> > >
> > > [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
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New guy here from Wellington, New Zealand.
Been playing with the Stamps since Xmas 2001. Dreamed up a few ideas
already, and implemented some.
What I'm looking at, is turning an old SCSI CD Drive in to a stand alone CD
Audio Player.
Has anyone toyed with this sort of idea before? I have the SCSI command set
for CD Drives (from the T10 site), but one guy reckons the Stamp may not be
able to respond fast enough, and perhaps I'd need a SCSI controller chip in
the circuit as well.
Any ideas?
Visit my website below, and click on Electronics, then follow the links to
see what I've experimented with so far.
Cheers,
Ben.
--
http://www.lennard.net.nz/
Ben Lennard, NCEE, Dip EE
Web Hosting and Electronics R&D
Club Coordinator, Victoria University of Wellington Hockey Club
Hm: +64 4 972 7567
Mb: +64 21 536 627
87 Spencer Street
Crofton Downs
Wellington
New Zealand
"To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is
half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be."
No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the
Dog next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you! Those of you
with an overwhelming fear of the unknown will be gratified to learn that
there is no hidden message revealed by reading this warning backwards.
From: "Stephen H Chapman" <chapman@t...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] RE:Javelin Stamp WAS:San Francisco Embedded
Systems Conference / Stamp Courses
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 5:00 PM
Robert, I suggest that you review your processor requirements for your
project before you elect a Stamp or any other micro controller solution. The
Parallax Stamp is a fine product. Your question of how much and when should
follow the understanding of your requirements and not lead your selection
based on price or whiz bang.
Steve.
Original Message
From: "Robert Staph" <rstaph@a...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:41 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] RE:Javelin Stamp WAS:San Francisco Embedded Systems
Conference / Stamp Courses
> This is more directed at the parallax inc people. I'd really like some
more
> information on the Javelin Stamp. Mainly, when and how much? I've run
into
> road block after road block with the Stamp 2p40 in my durrent project and
> I'm currently at the point of checking out micro-linux solutions or a
486DX
> based SBC.
>
> The execution on the Stamp 2p40 is about 5 times too slow for what I need
> now, how does the Javelin compare to the BS2p40 in terms of execution
power?
> How about string manipulation?
>
> Finally, floating point math.... is it in there or is parallax still
> ignoring the decimal point?
>
> Don't get me wrong the BS2p40 is great for amateur robotics, but when I
> first heard about the BS2p40 I thought it would be much more capable than
it
> actually is. I'm having a very hard time finding enough CPU cycles to
> actually get any use out of more than 8 stamp lines and still keep my loop
> under 2 seconds. The target is the entire loop in 300ms or less, I'd be
> happy with 400ms.
>
> Smile, if you answer me then there wont be anything to announce later. If
> you can answer me, do it in private, there is no way I can justify flying
> out to the conference if the javelin will be a let down like the p40.
>
> Robert Staph, W3RCS
> The Center for Advanced Technologies
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: "Al Williams" <alw@a...>
> To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 9:38 PM
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] San Francisco Embedded Systems Conference /
Stamp
> Courses
>
>
> > Since Jon opened the door, I can tell you that you'll enjoy the Javelin.
> > The Java-like language adds a lot of "pro" features to your programs
> > like real subroutines with parameters and the ability to use and create
> > reusable pieces.
> >
> > We took special care with the Javelin manual to make sure that if you
> > didn't know any Java you'd be able to get started easily and I think you
> > will enjoy the manual.
> >
> > One thing to remember about Java, C++, or any language that provides
> > advanced features is that you often don't have to take advantage of the
> > advanced parts unless you want to. Sure, the purists may frown, but you
> > can be very productive without getting into the more advanced
> > techniques.
> >
> > If you want to get started with Java early, there are a few ways you can
> > go. If you are C programmer, the Java in a Nutshell book is great
> > because it is succinct and lets you bridge what you know to what you
> > don't know. If you aren't a C programmer, you probably will want to skip
> > that book, however.
> >
> > You can download the Java JDK for free at http://java.sun.com and they
> > also have several tutorials at http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/.
> > As you might expect, avoid the GUI stuff, the sound, the 3d graphics,
> > and the databases, and the JavaBeans. However, don't skip over the
> > network stuff (meaningful glance) :-)
> >
> > I've written many columns about Java at http://www.newarchitectmag.com
> > (look in archives for my Java@Work column). I also run Java classes from
> > time to time, but I haven't had any public ones scheduled for a while --
> > maybe I should set something up soon.
> >
> > Keep waiting -- it'll be worth it!
> >
> > Al Williams
> > AWC
> > * Floating point math for the Stamp, PIC, SX, or any microcontroller
> > http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak1.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: jonwms@a... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=Xqgx6FETpB5zhJvY0EVyM6FYuveh5boxKHJ4npYSK_S7yHGvaChXoFeA2Dvwj1gXaHRG2bMj7Q]jonwms@a...[/url
> > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 7:51 PM
> > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] San Francisco Embedded Systems
> > > Conference / Stamp Courses
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 2/18/02 5:39:01 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > fuel@b... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > For dumbums like me, where is some basic info on the Java
> > > programming
> > > > conventions, ie info suitable for new programmers. Its
> > > obviously heaps
> > > >
> > >
> > > Well, I'm really not a Java guy (yet), so maybe my namesake
> > > (and fellow
> > > Texan), Al Williams, will step in and bail me out.
> > >
> > > First ... go to your favorite technical book store to find
> > > books on Java. Of
> > > course, the Javelin will come with a very good book --
> > > written by Al (who has
> > > a TON of Java experience).
> > >
> > > I think it's fair to say no, we haven't simplified Java.
> > > There is a specific
> > > definition and remaining as true to that as possible is
> > > important for the
> > > Javelin to be accepted by hard-core Java programmers. Of
> > > course, being an
> > > embedded controller, the Java used is a subset of what is
> > > found on a PC and
> > > programmers will have to deal with some differences. That
> > > said, I have
> > > successfully run several general examples -- virtually
> > > unchanged -- from an
> > > off-the-shelf Java book.
> > >
> > > -- Jon Williams
> > > -- Parallax
> > >
> > >
> > > [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the
> > > Subject and Body of the message will be ignored.
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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> Body of the message will be ignored.
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
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Comments
creative labs (Nomad player) did such a good job with their system for
$250, I figured I could not touch it for the price. Nice Idea!!
Leroy
Ben Lennard wrote:
>
> G'day all,
>
> New guy here from Wellington, New Zealand.
>
> Been playing with the Stamps since Xmas 2001. Dreamed up a few ideas
> already, and implemented some.
> What I'm looking at, is turning an old SCSI CD Drive in to a stand alone CD
> Audio Player.
>
> Has anyone toyed with this sort of idea before? I have the SCSI command set
> for CD Drives (from the T10 site), but one guy reckons the Stamp may not be
> able to respond fast enough, and perhaps I'd need a SCSI controller chip in
> the circuit as well.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Visit my website below, and click on Electronics, then follow the links to
> see what I've experimented with so far.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben.
>
> --
<snip>
> G'day all,
>
> New guy here from Wellington, New Zealand.
<snip>
I am also from Wellington! Neat to see there is another Stamp/electronics
geek in the area ;-)
If you want to have a yarn flick me an e-mail at jamesfit@p...
Might be useful to have a local guy to coloborate with sometimes ?
Cheers,
James Fitzsimons
P.S sorry to the rest of the list for the noise. Couldn't find Ben's
personal e-mail to take it off list.