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quoting text

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2002-01-06 21:44 in General Discussion
Hi all -

I've noticed that a number of people on the list always include the full
copy of the Original Message they are replying to. I'd like to ask
everyone not to do that.

For those of us who, like me, get the "digest" version of the list, i.e.
all the messages in one long e-mail, this is really a pain. It means we
read a four-line message, and then have to scroll through screens and
screens of quoted text we've already just read, over and over again, in
order to find the next message. It means that the vast majority of text
on the list is redundant and irrelevant. If you could cut out all or
most of the "Original Message" when you reply, that would be great, and
would help make reading the list more enjoyable. The rule of thumb on
the net for many years has been "never include more quoted text than
original". If you write four lines, don't include more than four lines
of quoted text - just enough to remind us which message you're replying to.

Thanks - Jeff Mann
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 05:18
    Hi Jeff,
    You have elected to take the digest, therefore you have elected to take the
    "pain." your definition. Maybe your suggestion should be directed to the
    people who edit the digest.
    My personal preference is to see each message and reply just the way it is
    currently handled. It saves me search time.
    Steve
    Original Message
    From: "Jeff Mann" <jefman@i...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 12:37 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] quoting text


    > Hi all -
    >
    > I've noticed that a number of people on the list always include the full
    > copy of the Original Message they are replying to. I'd like to ask
    > everyone not to do that.
    >
    > For those of us who, like me, get the "digest" version of the list, i.e.
    > all the messages in one long e-mail, this is really a pain. It means we
    > read a four-line message, and then have to scroll through screens and
    > screens of quoted text we've already just read, over and over again, in
    > order to find the next message. It means that the vast majority of text
    > on the list is redundant and irrelevant. If you could cut out all or
    > most of the "Original Message" when you reply, that would be great, and
    > would help make reading the list more enjoyable. The rule of thumb on
    > the net for many years has been "never include more quoted text than
    > original". If you write four lines, don't include more than four lines
    > of quoted text - just enough to remind us which message you're replying
    to.
    >
    > Thanks - Jeff Mann
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 15:48
    I also like to see the message thread in each reply. Sometimes the discussion
    goes on for days - it is easy to loose track of what was said.

    I guess this is a drawback to the use of digest mode.

    tim

    In a message dated 1/5/02 1:38:13 PM, jefman@i... writes:

    << Hi all -

    I've noticed that a number of people on the list always include the full
    copy of the Original Message they are replying to. I'd like to ask
    everyone not to do that.

    For those of us who, like me, get the "digest" version of the list, i.e.
    all the messages in one long e-mail, this is really a pain. It means we
    read a four-line message, and then have to scroll through screens and
    screens of quoted text we've already just read, over and over again, in
    order to find the next message. It means that the vast majority of text
    on the list is redundant and irrelevant. If you could cut out all or
    most of the "Original Message" when you reply, that would be great, and
    would help make reading the list more enjoyable. The rule of thumb on
    the net for many years has been "never include more quoted text than
    original". If you write four lines, don't include more than four lines
    of quoted text - just enough to remind us which message you're replying to.

    Thanks - Jeff Mann
    --
    ---- o.o___.
    >>
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 21:19
    "Stephen H Chapman" <chapman@t...> wrote:

    > My personal preference is to see each message and reply just the way it is
    > currently handled. It saves me search time.

    Hmm, I see. That never really occurred to me. I guess I'm used to the
    old days - I started on Usenet and mailing lists back in 1987, when the
    bandwidth of extra text was actually a big consideration, what with
    1200bps modems being the norm.

    Perhaps I'll switch over to non-digest mode then.

    cu later <Jeff
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 21:26
    What needs to happen no matter what, is folks need to trim out the Smile in
    the message generated by Yachoo! and their mail editor. This includes the
    header / subject stuff that gets inserted when they reply and the ads and
    nonsense Yachoo! tacks on at the end of every message. Not to mention the
    cutesy sigs and stuff people put at the end of their messages.

    *******

    > > My personal preference is to see each message and reply just the way it
    is
    > > currently handled. It saves me search time.
    >
    > Hmm, I see. That never really occurred to me. I guess I'm used to the
    > old days - I started on Usenet and mailing lists back in 1987, when the
    > bandwidth of extra text was actually a big consideration, what with
    > 1200bps modems being the norm.
    >
    > Perhaps I'll switch over to non-digest mode then.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 21:44
    Just turn off your 'digest' mode. Then setup the sorting feature in your
    email program (called Message Rules in MS Outlook) so all of the list
    messages go into a single folder, and you won't have this issue.

    Cliff


    Original Message
    From: "Rodent" <daweasel@s...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 1:26 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: quoting text


    What needs to happen no matter what, is folks need to trim out the Smile in
    the message generated by Yachoo! and their mail editor. This includes the
    header / subject stuff that gets inserted when they reply and the ads and
    nonsense Yachoo! tacks on at the end of every message. Not to mention the
    cutesy sigs and stuff people put at the end of their messages.

    *******

    > > My personal preference is to see each message and reply just the way it
    is
    > > currently handled. It saves me search time.
    >
    > Hmm, I see. That never really occurred to me. I guess I'm used to the
    > old days - I started on Usenet and mailing lists back in 1987, when the
    > bandwidth of extra text was actually a big consideration, what with
    > 1200bps modems being the norm.
    >
    > Perhaps I'll switch over to non-digest mode then.




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