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Is anyone else getting spam from yahoo including porn.
I have and have sent abuse messages to yahoo but they still are
comming in.
Maybe if you get a new list started we can get some spam proofing.
I like the idea of charging spammers 50$ per spam message then
sending
them a bill. Itf they don't pay then report to credit bureau as nopay
and give their credit rating heck.
I dont need cell fones from 40 different suppliers or addresses of 30
porn sites.
It is comming thru yahoo because it is to the yahoo address then
forwarded to my home 3-mail box.
73
spence
k4kep
I have and have sent abuse messages to yahoo but they still are
comming in.
Maybe if you get a new list started we can get some spam proofing.
I like the idea of charging spammers 50$ per spam message then
sending
them a bill. Itf they don't pay then report to credit bureau as nopay
and give their credit rating heck.
I dont need cell fones from 40 different suppliers or addresses of 30
porn sites.
It is comming thru yahoo because it is to the yahoo address then
forwarded to my home 3-mail box.
73
spence
k4kep
Comments
tad
Original Message
From: "k4kep" <k4kep@y...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:42 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SPAM TO LIST
> IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING SPAM FROM YAHOO INCLUDING PORN.
>
> I HAVE AND HAVE SENT ABUSE MESSAGES TO YAHOO BUT THEY STILL ARE
> COMMING IN.
>
> MAYBE IF YOU GET A NEW LIST STARTED WE CAN GET SOME SPAM PROOFING.
> I LIKE THE IDEA OF CHARGING SPAMMERS 50$ PER SPAM MESSAGE THEN
> SENDING
> THEM A BILL. ITF THEY DON'T PAY THEN REPORT TO CREDIT BUREAU AS NOPAY
> AND GIVE THEIR CREDIT RATING HECK.
>
> I DONT NEED CELL FONES FROM 40 DIFFERENT SUPPLIERS OR ADDRESSES OF 30
> PORN SITES.
>
> IT IS COMMING THRU YAHOO BECAUSE IT IS TO THE YAHOO ADDRESS THEN
> FORWARDED TO MY HOME 3-MAIL BOX.
>
> 73
> SPENCE
> K4KEP
>
>
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and
Body of the message will be ignored.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
originating from a Yahoo! email address?
If they appear to be originating from a Yahoo! email address, chances are
they really aren't. This is a common "trick" among spammers -- to send email
from one place and make it appear to originate from another. This is the
reason you get no response from Yahoo! Hotmail and Yahoo! get abused a lot.
Check out http://spamcop.net/ -- they have a bunch of info on spam, can help
you track where spam actually comes from, and will even email abuse reports
to the actual organization where the spam really originates from. The
downside is the for every 20 or 30 emails you report, you may receive a
reply from one provider apologizing for the spam and advising you the
account has been closed.
I never saw any real reduction in the spam I got, but it made me feel better
that I was doing something about it.
Original Message
> IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING SPAM FROM YAHOO INCLUDING PORN.
>
> I HAVE AND HAVE SENT ABUSE MESSAGES TO YAHOO BUT THEY STILL ARE
> COMMING IN.
>
> MAYBE IF YOU GET A NEW LIST STARTED WE CAN GET SOME SPAM PROOFING.
> I LIKE THE IDEA OF CHARGING SPAMMERS 50$ PER SPAM MESSAGE THEN
> SENDING
> THEM A BILL. ITF THEY DON'T PAY THEN REPORT TO CREDIT BUREAU AS NOPAY
> AND GIVE THEIR CREDIT RATING HECK.
>
> I DONT NEED CELL FONES FROM 40 DIFFERENT SUPPLIERS OR ADDRESSES OF 30
> PORN SITES.
>
> IT IS COMMING THRU YAHOO BECAUSE IT IS TO THE YAHOO ADDRESS THEN
> FORWARDED TO MY HOME 3-MAIL BOX.
But remenber we are getting this for free.
--- In basicstamps@y..., "k4kep" <k4kep@y...> wrote:
> IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING SPAM FROM YAHOO INCLUDING PORN.
>
> I HAVE AND HAVE SENT ABUSE MESSAGES TO YAHOO BUT THEY STILL ARE
> COMMING IN.
>
> MAYBE IF YOU GET A NEW LIST STARTED WE CAN GET SOME SPAM PROOFING.
> I LIKE THE IDEA OF CHARGING SPAMMERS 50$ PER SPAM MESSAGE THEN
> SENDING
> THEM A BILL. ITF THEY DON'T PAY THEN REPORT TO CREDIT BUREAU AS
NOPAY
> AND GIVE THEIR CREDIT RATING HECK.
>
> I DONT NEED CELL FONES FROM 40 DIFFERENT SUPPLIERS OR ADDRESSES OF
30
> PORN SITES.
>
> IT IS COMMING THRU YAHOO BECAUSE IT IS TO THE YAHOO ADDRESS THEN
> FORWARDED TO MY HOME 3-MAIL BOX.
>
> 73
> SPENCE
> K4KEP
some sort of email list.
acatano2002 wrote:
>
> I am getting a spam from YAHOO! ESSENTIALS.
> But remenber we are getting this for free.
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@y..., "k4kep" <k4kep@y...> wrote:
> > IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING SPAM FROM YAHOO INCLUDING PORN.
> >
> > I HAVE AND HAVE SENT ABUSE MESSAGES TO YAHOO BUT THEY STILL ARE
> > COMMING IN.
> >
> > MAYBE IF YOU GET A NEW LIST STARTED WE CAN GET SOME SPAM PROOFING.
> > I LIKE THE IDEA OF CHARGING SPAMMERS 50$ PER SPAM MESSAGE THEN
> > SENDING
> > THEM A BILL. ITF THEY DON'T PAY THEN REPORT TO CREDIT BUREAU AS
> NOPAY
> > AND GIVE THEIR CREDIT RATING HECK.
> >
> > I DONT NEED CELL FONES FROM 40 DIFFERENT SUPPLIERS OR ADDRESSES OF
> 30
> > PORN SITES.
> >
> > IT IS COMMING THRU YAHOO BECAUSE IT IS TO THE YAHOO ADDRESS THEN
> > FORWARDED TO MY HOME 3-MAIL BOX.
> >
> > 73
> > SPENCE
> > K4KEP
>
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and Body
of the message will be ignored.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
I kill most obvious spam without looking at it, but now that you mention
it, there is quite a bit from Yahoo accounts. Hmm....
emails to them per day. Multiplied from the number of members in the
group, we can shut them down. Maybe then they will listen!!!
carl@g... wrote:
>
> >IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING SPAM FROM YAHOO INCLUDING PORN.
> >
>
> I kill most obvious spam without looking at it, but now that you mention
> it, there is quite a bit from Yahoo accounts. Hmm....
>
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and Body
of the message will be ignored.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Leroy Hall wrote:
>
> remove !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > caernacopia@y... wrote:
> >
> > COPY ANY DVD MOVIE ON CD-R!!!
> >
> > With our revolutionary system you can copy virtually
> > any DVD Movie using your existing equipment!
> >
> > Conventional DVD copying equipment can cost thousands of $$$
> >
> > The revolutionary system is less than the price of 2 DVD Movies!
> >
> > ORDER within the next 48 hours and we will include a secret source
> > for thousands of new DVD movies online and available for free!
> >
> > CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO
> >
> > If you wish to be removed simply Click Here
Leroy Hall wrote:
>
> I am getting a lot of Smile too. Let's all get together and send 10
> emails to them per day. Multiplied from the number of members in the
> group, we can shut them down. Maybe then they will listen!!!
>
> carl@g... wrote:
> >
> > >IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING SPAM FROM YAHOO INCLUDING PORN.
> > >
> >
> > I kill most obvious spam without looking at it, but now that you mention
> > it, there is quite a bit from Yahoo accounts. Hmm....
> >
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and
Body of the message will be ignored.
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and Body
of the message will be ignored.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
SPAMCOP to parse the header and tell you the real source of the message.
You are assuming the mail came from a Yahoo! account because it says so in
the message. This is like assuming a snail-mail letter came from California
because the return address on the envelope is in Los Angeles. The email
header, much like a postmark on a letter, tells you where the item more than
likely originated from, not where they want you to think its from.
Original Message
> > > caernacopia@y... wrote:
> > >
> > > COPY ANY DVD MOVIE ON CD-R!!!
>Here's a good example:
Leroy,
Bad example! You need to include the full original headers to convince me
all this Smile you're getting is really coming from Yahoo. I get a lot of
Smile too, some with Yahoo return addresses, but almost none of it really
comes from Yahoo. Yahoo and Hotmail are favorites of the spammers when it
comes to forged addresses. People who don't know how to read the full
headers complain to Yahoo and Hotmail and the spammer keeps on spamming
from somewhere else. If we're going to keep taking up list time with this
problem, we need to post the full headers so we can get to the real bottom
of this problem and then get back to Basic Stamps.
Jim Higgins
Leroy Hall wrote:
> >
> > remove !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > > caernacopia@y... wrote:
> > >
> > > COPY ANY DVD MOVIE ON CD-R!!!
> > >
> > > With our revolutionary system you can copy virtually
> > > any DVD Movie using your existing equipment!
> > >
> > > Conventional DVD copying equipment can cost thousands of $$$
> > >
> > > The revolutionary system is less than the price of 2 DVD Movies!
> > >
> > > ORDER within the next 48 hours and we will include a secret source
> > > for thousands of new DVD movies online and available for free!
> > >
> > > CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO
> > >
> > > If you wish to be removed simply Click Here
>
>
>Leroy Hall wrote:
> >
> > I am getting a lot of Smile too. Let's all get together and send 10
> > emails to them per day. Multiplied from the number of members in the
> > group, we can shut them down. Maybe then they will listen!!!
> >
> > carl@g... wrote:
> > >
> > > >IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING SPAM FROM YAHOO INCLUDING PORN.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I kill most obvious spam without looking at it, but now that you mention
> > > it, there is quite a bit from Yahoo accounts. Hmm....
> > >
> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject
> and Body of the message will be ignored.
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject
> and Body of the message will be ignored.
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and
>Body of the message will be ignored.
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>Where can I get Spamcop?
http://spamcop.net/
Spamcop is not something you "get;" it is a web-based service dedicated to
eliminating spam. You join, then you forward your spam (with complete
headers and body) to them and their software parses the headers and body
and sends complaints to appropriate places for you. Sounds good, but you
have responsibilities to assure all goes well so be prepared to read and
understand the FAQ and follow directions exactly.
Jim H
You can get some of their services for free. Be sure to read the stuff
carefully.
Original Message
> Where can I get Spamcop?
you tell us how to read the FULL header, smart boy!
Leroy
Jim Highness wrote:
>
> At 00:17 12/30/01, Leroy Hall wrote:
>
> >Here's a good example:
>
> Leroy,
>
> Bad example! You need to include the full original headers to convince me
> all this Smile you're getting is really coming from Yahoo. I get a lot of
> Smile too, some with Yahoo return addresses, but almost none of it really
> comes from Yahoo. Yahoo and Hotmail are favorites of the spammers when it
> comes to forged addresses. People who don't know how to read the full
> headers complain to Yahoo and Hotmail and the spammer keeps on spamming
> from somewhere else. If we're going to keep taking up list time with this
> problem, we need to post the full headers so we can get to the real bottom
> of this problem and then get back to Basic Stamps.
>
> Jim Higgins
>
> Leroy Hall wrote:
> > >
> > > remove !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > > caernacopia@y... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > COPY ANY DVD MOVIE ON CD-R!!!
> > > >
> > > > With our revolutionary system you can copy virtually
> > > > any DVD Movie using your existing equipment!
> > > >
> > > > Conventional DVD copying equipment can cost thousands of $$$
> > > >
> > > > The revolutionary system is less than the price of 2 DVD Movies!
> > > >
> > > > ORDER within the next 48 hours and we will include a secret source
> > > > for thousands of new DVD movies online and available for free!
> > > >
> > > > CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO
> > > >
> > > > If you wish to be removed simply Click Here
> >
> >
> >Leroy Hall wrote:
> > >
> > > I am getting a lot of Smile too. Let's all get together and send 10
> > > emails to them per day. Multiplied from the number of members in the
> > > group, we can shut them down. Maybe then they will listen!!!
> > >
> > > carl@g... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING SPAM FROM YAHOO INCLUDING PORN.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I kill most obvious spam without looking at it, but now that you mention
> > > > it, there is quite a bit from Yahoo accounts. Hmm....
> > > >
> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject
> > and Body of the message will be ignored.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject
> > and Body of the message will be ignored.
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and
> >Body of the message will be ignored.
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and Body
of the message will be ignored.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>I am sorry, I didn't know that my goal was to convince YOU. Why don't
>you tell us how to read the FULL header, smart boy!
Would it be too much trouble for you to post it? I'm fairly smart, but I'm
not clairvoyant.
Jim Higgins
>Leroy
>
>Jim Higgins wrote:
> >
> > At 00:17 12/30/01, Leroy Hall wrote:
> >
> > >Here's a good example:
> >
> > Leroy,
> >
> > Bad example! You need to include the full original headers to convince me
> > all this Smile you're getting is really coming from Yahoo. I get a lot of
> > Smile too, some with Yahoo return addresses, but almost none of it really
> > comes from Yahoo. Yahoo and Hotmail are favorites of the spammers when it
> > comes to forged addresses. People who don't know how to read the full
> > headers complain to Yahoo and Hotmail and the spammer keeps on spamming
> > from somewhere else. If we're going to keep taking up list time with this
> > problem, we need to post the full headers so we can get to the real bottom
> > of this problem and then get back to Basic Stamps.
> >
> > Jim Higgins
header. Here is the Reader's Digest version:
If you are using Internet Explorer, click on the spam message to select it.
Then click FILE and PROPERTIES, then click the DETAILS tab. Click the
MESSAGE SOURCE button and a new window full of text will open up. If you
want to cut & paste this into another document, hold down the CTRL key and
press A, then hold down the CTRL key again and press C. Go to your other
document and do a PASTE command.
Here is what the header looks like for your message to the list:
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> I am sorry, I didn't know that my goal was to
> convince YOU. Why don't
> you tell us how to read the FULL header, smart boy!
>
> Leroy
>
> Jim Highness wrote:
> >
> > At 00:17 12/30/01, Leroy Hall wrote:
> >
> > >Here's a good example:
> >
> > Leroy,
> >
> > Bad example! You need to include the full
> original headers to convince me
> > all this Smile you're getting is really coming from
> Yahoo. I get a lot of
> > Smile too, some with Yahoo return addresses, but
> almost none of it really
> > comes from Yahoo. Yahoo and Hotmail are favorites
> of the spammers when it
> > comes to forged addresses. People who don't know
> how to read the full
> > headers complain to Yahoo and Hotmail and the
> spammer keeps on spamming
> > from somewhere else. If we're going to keep
> taking up list time with this
> > problem, we need to post the full headers so we
> can get to the real bottom
> > of this problem and then get back to Basic Stamps.
> >
> > Jim Higgins
> >
> > Leroy Hall wrote:
> > > >
> > > > remove !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > > caernacopia@y... wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > COPY ANY DVD MOVIE ON
> CD-R!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > With our revolutionary system you
> can copy virtually
> > > > > any DVD Movie using your
> existing equipment!
> > > > >
> > > > > Conventional DVD copying equipment can
> cost thousands of $$$
> > > > >
> > > > > The revolutionary system is less than the
> price of 2 DVD Movies!
> > > > >
> > > > > ORDER within the next 48 hours and we will
> include a secret source
> > > > > for thousands of new DVD movies online
> and available for free!
> > > > >
> > > > > CLICK HERE FOR MORE
> INFO
> > > > >
> > > > > If you wish to be removed
> simply Click Here
> > >
> > >
> > >Leroy Hall wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am getting a lot of Smile too. Let's all get
> together and send 10
> > > > emails to them per day. Multiplied from the
> number of members in the
> > > > group, we can shut them down. Maybe then
> they will listen!!!
> > > >
> > > > carl@g... wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING SPAM FROM YAHOO
> INCLUDING PORN.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I kill most obvious spam without looking at
> it, but now that you mention
> > > > > it, there is quite a bit from Yahoo
> accounts. Hmm....
> > > > >
> > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > > > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > from the same email address that you
> subscribed. Text in the Subject
> > > and Body of the message will be ignored.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > > from the same email address that you
> subscribed. Text in the Subject
> > > and Body of the message will be ignored.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >from the same email address that you subscribed.
> Text in the Subject and
> > >Body of the message will be ignored.
> > >
> > >
> > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > from the same email address that you subscribed.
> Text in the Subject and Body of the message will be
> ignored.
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> from the same email address that you subscribed.
> Text in the Subject and Body of the message will be
> ignored.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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Send your FREE holiday greetings online!
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Will you please talk about your non stamp problems some where else.
Thanks Steve
Original Message
From: "Jim Higgins" <HigginsJ@s...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] SPAM TO LIST
> At 12:07 12/30/01, Leroy Hall wrote:
>
> >I am sorry, I didn't know that my goal was to convince YOU. Why don't
> >you tell us how to read the FULL header, smart boy!
>
> Would it be too much trouble for you to post it? I'm fairly smart, but
I'm
> not clairvoyant.
>
> Jim Higgins
>
>
> >Leroy
> >
> >Jim Higgins wrote:
> > >
> > > At 00:17 12/30/01, Leroy Hall wrote:
> > >
> > > >Here's a good example:
> > >
> > > Leroy,
> > >
> > > Bad example! You need to include the full original headers to
convince me
> > > all this Smile you're getting is really coming from Yahoo. I get a lot
of
> > > Smile too, some with Yahoo return addresses, but almost none of it
really
> > > comes from Yahoo. Yahoo and Hotmail are favorites of the spammers
when it
> > > comes to forged addresses. People who don't know how to read the full
> > > headers complain to Yahoo and Hotmail and the spammer keeps on
spamming
> > > from somewhere else. If we're going to keep taking up list time with
this
> > > problem, we need to post the full headers so we can get to the real
bottom
> > > of this problem and then get back to Basic Stamps.
> > >
> > > Jim Higgins
>
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I'm not taking sides here, doesn't really matter to me. But let me tell
you one thing, spammers send to 10's of 1000's of email addresses... They
get them from various sources, none of them 'guaranteed'....
But if you want to assure the fact that you will start getting TONS of
them, just start replying. They they KNOW they have a valid email address.
Sorry for the off topic post, but I thought everyone should know...
-John
If people really _must_ post in here this off-topic stuff, can they at
_least_ snip all the spam from their quotes???
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Regards,
Derryck Croker