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Making something from this list

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-12-30 03:18 in General Discussion
Hi Folks,

After being a member of this list for a month or two, I've had some ideas
which I'd like to run past you. Let me know your thoughts - it is possible
that this idea has already been tried or discussed, in which case I
apologise.

This is a very practical list, and has members with a wide range of skills.

It occured to me that we could take the practical ideas and solved solutions
over the last (say) year, and turn them into a non-profit-making website or
(being really wacky now) - even a book. In both cases, we can ask for the
blessing of Parallax to publicise the website/ or book on their site. We'll
add new stuff as it comes in.

I'm willing to provide webspace and do the initial editing, but I would hope
that original contributors would provide the material for their own
projects. I think contributions could be of all sorts - from complete newbie
projects to sophisticated code and electronics solutions for the advanced
user.

What do we get out of it? Well:

Contributors get their name in lights,
Newbies on the list and newbies to Basic Stamps get the benefit of a
dedicated information source.
I'll probably learn a lot as well. I've worked with embedded controllers of
all shapes for over 15 years, and I'm still learning!

Any thoughts?

Regards,

Tony Wells

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 15:26
    Where is the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    ??????????????????????


    Leroy

    tony.wells@a... wrote:
    >
    > Hi Folks,
    >
    > After being a member of this list for a month or two, I've had some ideas
    > which I'd like to run past you. Let me know your thoughts - it is possible
    > that this idea has already been tried or discussed, in which case I
    > apologise.
    >
    > This is a very practical list, and has members with a wide range of skills.
    >
    > It occured to me that we could take the practical ideas and solved solutions
    > over the last (say) year, and turn them into a non-profit-making website or
    > (being really wacky now) - even a book. In both cases, we can ask for the
    > blessing of Parallax to publicise the website/ or book on their site. We'll
    > add new stuff as it comes in.
    >
    > I'm willing to provide webspace and do the initial editing, but I would hope
    > that original contributors would provide the material for their own
    > projects. I think contributions could be of all sorts - from complete newbie
    > projects to sophisticated code and electronics solutions for the advanced
    > user.
    >
    > What do we get out of it? Well:
    >
    > Contributors get their name in lights,
    > Newbies on the list and newbies to Basic Stamps get the benefit of a
    > dedicated information source.
    > I'll probably learn a lot as well. I've worked with embedded controllers of
    > all shapes for over 15 years, and I'm still learning!
    >
    > Any thoughts?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Tony Wells
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 15:34
    Tony-

    I think that your idea is a grand one. The folks who run the AVR
    Freaks website (www.avrfreaks.net) have done a similar thing, where
    there is a one stop clearing-house for all sorts of material related to
    the Atmel processors (a standard Q and A sort of list, a collection of
    projects, links to tools and info about the processors & etc.).

    I would be happy to help.

    regards,

    peter
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 16:08
    Ditto. It's not all about $$. More $ usually means more headaches. I have
    done a couple of different things with Stamps that might be considered
    humanitarian contributions, and would love to share for the good of others.
    Plus, I continue learning daily as well.
    Chris

    >
    > Tony-
    >
    > I think that your idea is a grand one. The folks who run the AVR
    > Freaks website (www.avrfreaks.net) have done a similar thing, where
    > there is a one stop clearing-house for all sorts of material
    > related to
    > the Atmel processors (a standard Q and A sort of list, a
    > collection of
    > projects, links to tools and info about the processors & etc.).
    >
    > I would be happy to help.
    >
    > regards,
    >
    > peter
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 16:19
    If something like this is done, I would think a CMS (content management system)
    would almost be a must have. A CMS system makes it easy for people to contribute
    things, post articles, pictures of projects, web links, etc. Extra features for
    the web site are just plug-in modules and you can add things like a Calendar of
    Events, Project Management, web discussion boards, polls, etc.

    The submitted info, once approved by the admin of the site, is automatically
    added to the site with no web page creation required. The CMS dynamically
    creates the pages from the database as required by visitors.

    For the techies out there, they might know about Slashdot. It uses a CMS system.

    I use PostNuke for a CMS on my own site and have been happy with it. It requires
    php and mySQL to run. It's open source and while still in beta form has been
    very stable. Just a thought for a BS site that would require little upkeep once
    setup. You can see it at http://teamrcv.com if you are interested in how it
    works/looks.

    Hank




    Original Message
    From: <tony.wells@a...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 7:17 AM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Making something from this list


    > Hi Folks,
    >
    > After being a member of this list for a month or two, I've had some ideas
    > which I'd like to run past you. Let me know your thoughts - it is possible
    > that this idea has already been tried or discussed, in which case I
    > apologise.
    >
    > This is a very practical list, and has members with a wide range of skills.
    >
    > It occured to me that we could take the practical ideas and solved solutions
    > over the last (say) year, and turn them into a non-profit-making website or
    > (being really wacky now) - even a book. In both cases, we can ask for the
    > blessing of Parallax to publicise the website/ or book on their site. We'll
    > add new stuff as it comes in.
    >
    > I'm willing to provide webspace and do the initial editing, but I would hope
    > that original contributors would provide the material for their own
    > projects. I think contributions could be of all sorts - from complete newbie
    > projects to sophisticated code and electronics solutions for the advanced
    > user.
    >
    > What do we get out of it? Well:
    >
    > Contributors get their name in lights,
    > Newbies on the list and newbies to Basic Stamps get the benefit of a
    > dedicated information source.
    > I'll probably learn a lot as well. I've worked with embedded controllers of
    > all shapes for over 15 years, and I'm still learning!
    >
    > Any thoughts?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Tony Wells
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
    > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
    > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and Body
    of the message will be ignored.
    >
    >
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    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 16:29
    Two resources that are already open to anyone who wants to post things:

    1) The Stamp FAQ at http://www.al-williams.com/wd5gnr/stampfaq.htm -
    several people have contributed code libraries. More or welcome.

    2) The Wiki (a kind of CMS) at http://wd5gnr.virtualave.net - You do
    need to create a login (or sign in as a guest) but then you can post
    files, pictures, and make Web pages. This has been underwhelming as no
    one has done much with it. We only keep it running because we also run
    some private wikis for client projects and that has been very
    successful.

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * Easy RS-232 Prototyping
    http://www.al-williams.com/awce/rs1.htm



    >
    Original Message
    > From: Hank Hagquist [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=1nX7lErGYagdIlJ2YZdvPAWQTojuU9e8cdb0blLjCIC7YDJ5wABjesfzRV-q7QhS-6jTkFD3M3cVzhM]rcvehicles@y...[/url
    > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:19 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Making something from this list
    >
    >
    > If something like this is done, I would think a CMS (content
    > management system) would almost be a must have. A CMS system
    > makes it easy for people to contribute things, post articles,
    > pictures of projects, web links, etc. Extra features for the
    > web site are just plug-in modules and you can add things like
    > a Calendar of Events, Project Management, web discussion
    > boards, polls, etc.
    >
    > The submitted info, once approved by the admin of the site,
    > is automatically added to the site with no web page creation
    > required. The CMS dynamically creates the pages from the
    > database as required by visitors.
    >
    > For the techies out there, they might know about Slashdot. It
    > uses a CMS system.
    >
    > I use PostNuke for a CMS on my own site and have been happy
    > with it. It requires php and mySQL to run. It's open source
    > and while still in beta form has been very stable. Just a
    > thought for a BS site that would require little upkeep once
    > setup. You can see it at http://teamrcv.com if you are
    > interested in how it works/looks.
    >
    > Hank
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: <tony.wells@a...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 7:17 AM
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Making something from this list
    >
    >
    > > Hi Folks,
    > >
    > > After being a member of this list for a month or two, I've had some
    > > ideas which I'd like to run past you. Let me know your
    > thoughts - it
    > > is possible that this idea has already been tried or discussed, in
    > > which case I apologise.
    > >
    > > This is a very practical list, and has members with a wide range of
    > > skills.
    > >
    > > It occured to me that we could take the practical ideas and solved
    > > solutions over the last (say) year, and turn them into a
    > > non-profit-making website or (being really wacky now) -
    > even a book.
    > > In both cases, we can ask for the blessing of Parallax to publicise
    > > the website/ or book on their site. We'll add new stuff as it comes
    > > in.
    > >
    > > I'm willing to provide webspace and do the initial editing, but I
    > > would hope that original contributors would provide the
    > material for
    > > their own projects. I think contributions could be of all
    > sorts - from
    > > complete newbie projects to sophisticated code and electronics
    > > solutions for the advanced user.
    > >
    > > What do we get out of it? Well:
    > >
    > > Contributors get their name in lights,
    > > Newbies on the list and newbies to Basic Stamps get the
    > benefit of a
    > > dedicated information source. I'll probably learn a lot as
    > well. I've
    > > worked with embedded controllers of all shapes for over 15
    > years, and
    > > I'm still learning!
    > >
    > > Any thoughts?
    > >
    > > Regards,
    > >
    > > Tony Wells
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
    > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
    > > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in
    > the Subject
    > > and Body of the message will be ignored.
    > >
    > >
    > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
    > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    > >
    >
    >
    > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 18:55
    Good idea!

    How about making a hand-held oscilloscope with an LCD
    screen?

    Bob
    nienhuis@w...

    Quoting tony.wells@a...:

    > Hi Folks,
    >
    > After being a member of this list for a month or two,
    I've had some ideas
    > which I'd like to run past you. Let me know your
    thoughts - it is possible
    > that this idea has already been tried or discussed, in
    which case I
    > apologise.
    >
    > This is a very practical list, and has members with a
    wide range of skills.
    >
    > It occured to me that we could take the practical
    ideas and solved
    > solutions
    > over the last (say) year, and turn them into a
    non-profit-making website or
    > (being really wacky now) - even a book. In both cases,
    we can ask for the
    > blessing of Parallax to publicise the website/ or book
    on their site. We'll
    > add new stuff as it comes in.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 22:25
    I have done consulting work on specialized content modules for a CMS product
    called "Revize", and may be able to get a copy donated for such a purpose.
    These are costly tools, however, typically running into the tens of
    thousands of dollars per installation. I suppose that a site administrator
    could become the hub for all the content, but the trend in these tools is to
    pre-assign rights and permissions, hence nobody needs to play cyber-cop.
    That becomes more important when there are no salaries or fees
    involved....Which brings up another point.....
    Projects like this sound like a lot of fun and seem to have myriad benefits,
    but someone would have to do a lot of work to get it going - probably more
    work than anyone would be willing to offer gratis. How would you propose to
    get past this hurdle? Without a major corporate contributor, it may just
    turn into another socio-political mess.
    Get past this and I will be glad to play.

    Chris

    >
    Original Message
    > From: Hank Hagquist [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=m-ZOv6fcBkHP0DzMfcqQzx3S-8zf5lLqdWOWIU9VrrW4OHZ1rZQKPpxG-PtFJOtfle9O9ct3LTaWulD4nbhx]rcvehicles@y...[/url
    > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:19 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Making something from this list
    >
    >
    > If something like this is done, I would think a CMS (content
    > management system) would almost be a must have. A CMS system
    > makes it easy for people to contribute things, post articles,
    > pictures of projects, web links, etc. Extra features for the
    > web site are just plug-in modules and you can add things like
    > a Calendar of Events, Project Management, web discussion
    > boards, polls, etc.
    >
    > The submitted info, once approved by the admin of the site,
    > is automatically added to the site with no web page creation
    > required. The CMS dynamically creates the pages from the
    > database as required by visitors.
    >
    > For the techies out there, they might know about Slashdot. It
    > uses a CMS system.
    >
    > I use PostNuke for a CMS on my own site and have been happy
    > with it. It requires php and mySQL to run. It's open source
    > and while still in beta form has been very stable. Just a
    > thought for a BS site that would require little upkeep once
    > setup. You can see it at http://teamrcv.com if you are
    > interested in how it works/looks.
    >
    > Hank
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: <tony.wells@a...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 7:17 AM
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Making something from this list
    >
    >
    > > Hi Folks,
    > >
    > > After being a member of this list for a month or two, I've
    > had some ideas
    > > which I'd like to run past you. Let me know your thoughts -
    > it is possible
    > > that this idea has already been tried or discussed, in which case I
    > > apologise.
    > >
    > > This is a very practical list, and has members with a wide
    > range of skills.
    > >
    > > It occured to me that we could take the practical ideas and
    > solved solutions
    > > over the last (say) year, and turn them into a
    > non-profit-making website or
    > > (being really wacky now) - even a book. In both cases, we
    > can ask for the
    > > blessing of Parallax to publicise the website/ or book on
    > their site. We'll
    > > add new stuff as it comes in.
    > >
    > > I'm willing to provide webspace and do the initial editing,
    > but I would hope
    > > that original contributors would provide the material for their own
    > > projects. I think contributions could be of all sorts -
    > from complete newbie
    > > projects to sophisticated code and electronics solutions
    > for the advanced
    > > user.
    > >
    > > What do we get out of it? Well:
    > >
    > > Contributors get their name in lights,
    > > Newbies on the list and newbies to Basic Stamps get the benefit of a
    > > dedicated information source.
    > > I'll probably learn a lot as well. I've worked with
    > embedded controllers of
    > > all shapes for over 15 years, and I'm still learning!
    > >
    > > Any thoughts?
    > >
    > > Regards,
    > >
    > > Tony Wells
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
    > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
    > > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in
    > the Subject and Body of the message will be ignored.
    > >
    > >
    > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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    > >
    >
    >
    > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 22:28
    I'm not sure what this has to do with this topic, but Radio Shack already
    sells one for about $99. It works pretty well for what it's intended...
    CL
    > Good idea!
    >
    > How about making a hand-held oscilloscope with an LCD
    > screen?
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-29 06:18
    The biggest problem I see is the server space and costs associated with it. I do
    have a dedicated server that I could host such a site for awhile at no cost. But
    if the site got very busy, say a half million page views a month, I'd start
    bumping up against my bandwidth limits. Now there are ways to cover some of
    those extra costs such as site sponsorships.

    The system I use has no cost since it's open source and installation is a snap.
    Run an install script and it sets up the database. All that then needs to be
    done is set permissions for admins, set a "theme", install or activate the
    modules that are needed and it's all set. Maybe 2 hours to get it all done.

    The big thing would be to decide who would approve articles, links, Basic Stamp
    news, calendar events, etc... or not decide at all.

    It could start out as a personal Basic Stamp site run by a single person. Other
    BS enthusiasts could then submit their articles, info, tips, etc. Admin duties
    could be done by volunteers, if there are any, and the person running the site
    could try and recover any costs (if there are any) as they see fit.

    Disadvantages of doing it this way is it doesn't have that "community" support
    feel to it but it avoids the pitfalls of needing the approval of the community
    to get anything done.

    Hank Hagquist
    Team RCV - http://teamrcv.com
    Hobby Talk - http://hobbytalk.com



    Original Message
    From: "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 5:25 PM
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Making something from this list


    > I have done consulting work on specialized content modules for a CMS product
    > called "Revize", and may be able to get a copy donated for such a purpose.
    > These are costly tools, however, typically running into the tens of
    > thousands of dollars per installation. I suppose that a site administrator
    > could become the hub for all the content, but the trend in these tools is to
    > pre-assign rights and permissions, hence nobody needs to play cyber-cop.
    > That becomes more important when there are no salaries or fees
    > involved....Which brings up another point.....
    > Projects like this sound like a lot of fun and seem to have myriad benefits,
    > but someone would have to do a lot of work to get it going - probably more
    > work than anyone would be willing to offer gratis. How would you propose to
    > get past this hurdle? Without a major corporate contributor, it may just
    > turn into another socio-political mess.
    > Get past this and I will be glad to play.
    >
    > Chris
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-29 09:42
    I've got a Unix web host that can be used. I'm also willing to put in time.

    I'll wait a few days for further suggestions and explore what can be done.

    It did occur to me that if nothing else is suitable, we could chop
    WonderDesk about a bit. WonderDesk is really designed as a help desk system
    but it can be frigged quite a lot, and contains a FAQ component.

    I know WonderDesk quite a lot, it's Perl-based and I've done a lot of
    enhancement mods over the last few months, so I know how it's put together.

    Regards,

    Tony Wells

    Original Message
    From: "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:25 PM
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Making something from this list


    > I have done consulting work on specialized content modules for a CMS
    product
    > called "Revize", and may be able to get a copy donated for such a purpose.
    > These are costly tools, however, typically running into the tens of
    > thousands of dollars per installation. I suppose that a site administrator
    > could become the hub for all the content, but the trend in these tools is
    to
    > pre-assign rights and permissions, hence nobody needs to play cyber-cop.
    > That becomes more important when there are no salaries or fees
    > involved....Which brings up another point.....
    > Projects like this sound like a lot of fun and seem to have myriad
    benefits,
    > but someone would have to do a lot of work to get it going - probably more
    > work than anyone would be willing to offer gratis. How would you propose
    to
    > get past this hurdle? Without a major corporate contributor, it may just
    > turn into another socio-political mess.
    > Get past this and I will be glad to play.
    >
    > Chris
    >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: Hank Hagquist [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=SRNcBhJe7W9hWZMZGnzcRYEQoFK--f9U_Xgb3hkxxFtcAhbRsiz7lZHx0rLsMKDF_CTaHDz8dqVDhw]rcvehicles@y...[/url
    > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:19 AM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Making something from this list
    > >
    > >
    > > If something like this is done, I would think a CMS (content
    > > management system) would almost be a must have. A CMS system
    > > makes it easy for people to contribute things, post articles,
    > > pictures of projects, web links, etc. Extra features for the
    > > web site are just plug-in modules and you can add things like
    > > a Calendar of Events, Project Management, web discussion
    > > boards, polls, etc.
    > >
    > > The submitted info, once approved by the admin of the site,
    > > is automatically added to the site with no web page creation
    > > required. The CMS dynamically creates the pages from the
    > > database as required by visitors.
    > >
    > > For the techies out there, they might know about Slashdot. It
    > > uses a CMS system.
    > >
    > > I use PostNuke for a CMS on my own site and have been happy
    > > with it. It requires php and mySQL to run. It's open source
    > > and while still in beta form has been very stable. Just a
    > > thought for a BS site that would require little upkeep once
    > > setup. You can see it at http://teamrcv.com if you are
    > > interested in how it works/looks.
    > >
    > > Hank
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: <tony.wells@a...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 7:17 AM
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Making something from this list
    > >
    > >
    > > > Hi Folks,
    > > >
    > > > After being a member of this list for a month or two, I've
    > > had some ideas
    > > > which I'd like to run past you. Let me know your thoughts -
    > > it is possible
    > > > that this idea has already been tried or discussed, in which case I
    > > > apologise.
    > > >
    > > > This is a very practical list, and has members with a wide
    > > range of skills.
    > > >
    > > > It occured to me that we could take the practical ideas and
    > > solved solutions
    > > > over the last (say) year, and turn them into a
    > > non-profit-making website or
    > > > (being really wacky now) - even a book. In both cases, we
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    > > > blessing of Parallax to publicise the website/ or book on
    > > their site. We'll
    > > > add new stuff as it comes in.
    > > >
    > > > I'm willing to provide webspace and do the initial editing,
    > > but I would hope
    > > > that original contributors would provide the material for their own
    > > > projects. I think contributions could be of all sorts -
    > > from complete newbie
    > > > projects to sophisticated code and electronics solutions
    > > for the advanced
    > > > user.
    > > >
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    > > >
    > > > Contributors get their name in lights,
    > > > Newbies on the list and newbies to Basic Stamps get the benefit of a
    > > > dedicated information source.
    > > > I'll probably learn a lot as well. I've worked with
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    > > > all shapes for over 15 years, and I'm still learning!
    > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-29 17:34
    Hi all,

    I think using SourceForge might be an ideal way for members of this list to
    create collective, open-source projects. I am impressed by the generosity
    of those offering to a site for doing this, using open source tools, or
    others, but I believe it would be completely unnecessary to do this, and
    ultimately not in the best interests of the group.

    Sourceforge ( <http://www.sourceforge.net> ) is a great place to home
    open-source projects, for several reasons: 1) It is free; 2) None of us has
    to host it; 3) By virtue of 2, projects will not die out just because
    particular people in the group leave/get bord & quit, go out of town, lose
    their job, etc; 4) It already has sophisticated management stuff for who
    has what access to the project built-in; 5) The presence of a project on
    Sourceforge indicates that the project is a 'real' or serious project.

    Sourceforge is NOT just limited to software-only projects! For example, I
    am also interested in motor controllers. The OSMC (Open Source Motor
    Controller) project is on Sourceforge, at
    <http://sourceforge.net/projects/osmc> . The OSMC group also has a group
    on Yahoo, and all of the schematics, etc. for the project are there (
    <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/osmc/> ). Basic Stamp projects could all be
    homed in one place, or split as with OSMC.

    Basic Stamp projects could either be all in one large project on
    SourceForge, or a new Sourceforge project could be started for each Basic
    Stamp project. I see pros and cons to each and think that should be
    discussed.

    Thanks for considering my 2 cents worth!

    Regards,
    Ted Fines

    PS To prevent long or weird URLs breaking up in emails, they should be
    encased in angle brackets (less than/greater than). I have just gotten
    into the habit of placing all URLs in angle brackets. For instance, here
    is the same URL listed twice--the first one I am putting in angle brackets,
    and the second I am not. If your email client still does not properly
    present the first URL, then it has a bug, and is not adhering to the RFC (I
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-29 20:24
    I went to that site and could not find a beginner's guide to AVR's.
    Does anyone know of such a site? Thanks in advance.

    RP

    --- In basicstamps@y..., Peter Charles <pcharles@m...> wrote:
    > Tony-
    >
    > I think that your idea is a grand one. The folks who run the AVR
    > Freaks website (www.avrfreaks.net) have done a similar thing, where
    > there is a one stop clearing-house for all sorts of material
    related to
    > the Atmel processors (a standard Q and A sort of list, a collection
    of
    > projects, links to tools and info about the processors & etc.).
    >
    > I would be happy to help.
    >
    > regards,
    >
    > peter
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-30 03:18
    RP-

    I didn't intend to imply that the AVR Freaks website was good for
    beginners, merely that I thought they did a good job of collecting lots
    of information in one area. I wouldn't recomend the AVR mcu for any
    sort of beginner-- Atmel only supplies an ASM programming tool! If you
    are looking for an intro to the chips, check out "Programming and
    customizing the AVR microcontroller," by D. V. Gadre (available at
    BN.com). There do exist several C compilers, and one or two Basic
    compilers, but they are all commercial (NOT free), and have a learning
    curve that can be quite steep. Check out the Atmel site, download a
    few of their app notes, look them over and see if that helps. You
    could also contact me off-line (cyberbiota@h...) if you still
    have questions. I am new to the AVR mcu myself, but am starting to
    learn...

    Good luck,

    peter

    Original Message
    From: "rpsu279" <rpsu279@y...>
    Date: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:24 pm
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Making something from this list

    > I went to that site and could not find a beginner's guide to
    > AVR's.
    > Does anyone know of such a site? Thanks in advance.
    >
    > RP
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