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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-12-28 22:17 in General Discussion
> I agree 100%, especially if one is in another time zone.
> Regards

> > If somebody checks their email AFTER an answer has already
> been given,
> > what's the point of providing another answer?
>

Two more cents:
The example below is a good reason for providing another answer. The earlier
post suggested using an optical component with a diode and transistor in it,
which not too many people would have on hand. The later post used a diode
and a transistor that might be more commonly found in one's box of parts,
and probably costs less. Different ideas and perspectives really add value
to this forum technically, educationally, and interestingly.

I suppose on a dial-up line it might cost a penny or two per "extra" message
and that could be a bit irritating if you let it, but have you ever looked
into any other similar group lists?
Try the PIC list for example, where you can get 20 or 30 replies to the same
original posting one day, another 30 the next - and none of the 2,000+
participants ever complains.
This is a super forum and group of contributors that cover a broad range of
abilities, education, experience, and perspectives. I suggest welcoming and
valuing all of it.
CL

Arrived 23:14 EST:

Here are my 2 cents.

A simple y fool proof way is to use what is called a cross-over
detector.
Is simply a bipolar NPN like a 2N2222 and connect a clampping diode
base to emitter. Apply the AC signal to the base thru a resistor.
In the collector, a resistor to +5v.
Every time the sinewave goes thru zero, the collector saturates and
remains saturated thru the positive part of the cycle.
The diode clamps the junction to approximately 0.6 volts when the
sine wave goes negative.
There is no problems with resistor tolerances or changes in the
amplitude of the sine wave. The only changes are due to temperature
coefficient of the transistor Vbe which is approx. 2.2 mV/DegC

Arrived 21:51 EST:

--- In basicstamps@y..., "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
wrote:
> Not exactly, but in a similar way, it's fairly common to input a
sine wave
> to an opto-isolator with a transistor output that will always turn
on at the
> same angle (likewise off).

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-27 14:01
    From: "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 5:53 AM
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...


    > The example below is a good reason for providing another
    answer. The earlier
    > post suggested using an optical component with a diode and
    transistor in it,
    > which not too many people would have on hand. The later post
    used a diode
    > and a transistor that might be more commonly found in one's box
    of parts,
    > and probably costs less. Different ideas and perspectives
    really add value
    > to this forum technically, educationally, and interestingly.

    I think multiple solutions to a problem or multiple part sources
    are great. Reading through 8 messages that all say "You can get
    it a Digikey" are not needed.

    Tim
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-27 16:31
    I kinda been following this thread . . . and maybe missed some of it

    but what is the difference between a super cap and a capacitor ?

    did "Super" come from the context of something else ?


    richard



    Original Message
    From: "Cliff Griffin" <cliff@g...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:34 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...


    > Chris,
    > Different answers aren't really addressed in that comment...had you read
    my
    > original post, later on I qualified the statement with the phrase
    "identical
    > answers." Different viewpoints and methods are always welcome. As for
    those
    > who are on the other side of the ball...keep lurking, and pitch in when
    > necessary!
    >
    > Cliff
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:53 AM
    > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...
    >
    >
    > > I agree 100%, especially if one is in another time zone.
    > > Regards
    >
    > > > If somebody checks their email AFTER an answer has already
    > > been given,
    > > > what's the point of providing another answer?
    > >
    >
    > Two more cents:
    > The example below is a good reason for providing another answer. The
    earlier
    > post suggested using an optical component with a diode and transistor in
    it,
    > which not too many people would have on hand. The later post used a diode
    > and a transistor that might be more commonly found in one's box of parts,
    > and probably costs less. Different ideas and perspectives really add value
    > to this forum technically, educationally, and interestingly.
    >
    > I suppose on a dial-up line it might cost a penny or two per "extra"
    message
    > and that could be a bit irritating if you let it, but have you ever looked
    > into any other similar group lists?
    > Try the PIC list for example, where you can get 20 or 30 replies to the
    same
    > original posting one day, another 30 the next - and none of the 2,000+
    > participants ever complains.
    > This is a super forum and group of contributors that cover a broad range
    of
    > abilities, education, experience, and perspectives. I suggest welcoming
    and
    > valuing all of it.
    > CL
    >
    > Arrived 23:14 EST:
    >
    > Here are my 2 cents.
    >
    > A simple y fool proof way is to use what is called a cross-over
    > detector.
    > Is simply a bipolar NPN like a 2N2222 and connect a clampping diode
    > base to emitter. Apply the AC signal to the base thru a resistor.
    > In the collector, a resistor to +5v.
    > Every time the sinewave goes thru zero, the collector saturates and
    > remains saturated thru the positive part of the cycle.
    > The diode clamps the junction to approximately 0.6 volts when the
    > sine wave goes negative.
    > There is no problems with resistor tolerances or changes in the
    > amplitude of the sine wave. The only changes are due to temperature
    > coefficient of the transistor Vbe which is approx. 2.2 mV/DegC
    >
    >
    > Arrived 21:51 EST:
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
    > wrote:
    > > Not exactly, but in a similar way, it's fairly common to input a
    > sine wave
    > > to an opto-isolator with a transistor output that will always turn
    > on at the
    > > same angle (likewise off).
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-27 16:34
    Chris,
    Different answers aren't really addressed in that comment...had you read my
    original post, later on I qualified the statement with the phrase "identical
    answers." Different viewpoints and methods are always welcome. As for those
    who are on the other side of the ball...keep lurking, and pitch in when
    necessary!

    Cliff



    Original Message
    From: "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:53 AM
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...


    > I agree 100%, especially if one is in another time zone.
    > Regards

    > > If somebody checks their email AFTER an answer has already
    > been given,
    > > what's the point of providing another answer?
    >

    Two more cents:
    The example below is a good reason for providing another answer. The earlier
    post suggested using an optical component with a diode and transistor in it,
    which not too many people would have on hand. The later post used a diode
    and a transistor that might be more commonly found in one's box of parts,
    and probably costs less. Different ideas and perspectives really add value
    to this forum technically, educationally, and interestingly.

    I suppose on a dial-up line it might cost a penny or two per "extra" message
    and that could be a bit irritating if you let it, but have you ever looked
    into any other similar group lists?
    Try the PIC list for example, where you can get 20 or 30 replies to the same
    original posting one day, another 30 the next - and none of the 2,000+
    participants ever complains.
    This is a super forum and group of contributors that cover a broad range of
    abilities, education, experience, and perspectives. I suggest welcoming and
    valuing all of it.
    CL

    Arrived 23:14 EST:

    Here are my 2 cents.

    A simple y fool proof way is to use what is called a cross-over
    detector.
    Is simply a bipolar NPN like a 2N2222 and connect a clampping diode
    base to emitter. Apply the AC signal to the base thru a resistor.
    In the collector, a resistor to +5v.
    Every time the sinewave goes thru zero, the collector saturates and
    remains saturated thru the positive part of the cycle.
    The diode clamps the junction to approximately 0.6 volts when the
    sine wave goes negative.
    There is no problems with resistor tolerances or changes in the
    amplitude of the sine wave. The only changes are due to temperature
    coefficient of the transistor Vbe which is approx. 2.2 mV/DegC

    Arrived 21:51 EST:

    --- In basicstamps@y..., "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
    wrote:
    > Not exactly, but in a similar way, it's fairly common to input a
    sine wave
    > to an opto-isolator with a transistor output that will always turn
    on at the
    > same angle (likewise off).


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-27 19:54
    Both store energy.
    Some are used as filters (bypass), some as storage devices.
    normaly are specified in pF (picoFarads, or 10^-12), nF (nanoFarads,
    10^-9), uF (microFarads, or 10^-6)
    The most capacitance are found in the Electrolytic type were
    capacitance is measured in uF or microFarads (10^-6 Farads).
    Depending in the working voltage the low the voltage, the higher the
    capacitance.
    The Super caps are normally specified in Farads, they are rated
    normally at 5V, they use a special electrolyte that makes specially
    useful in maintaining alive electronics circuits for long periods of
    time. Unfortunately they can only provide very small amount of
    current.
    --- In basicstamps@y..., "Richard Friedrich" <rfriedrich@a...> wrote:
    > I kinda been following this thread . . . and maybe missed some of
    it
    >
    > but what is the difference between a super cap and a capacitor ?
    >
    > did "Super" come from the context of something else ?
    >
    >
    > richard
    >
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "Cliff Griffin" <cliff@g...>
    > To: <basicstamps@y...>
    > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:34 AM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...
    >
    >
    > > Chris,
    > > Different answers aren't really addressed in that comment...had
    you read
    > my
    > > original post, later on I qualified the statement with the phrase
    > "identical
    > > answers." Different viewpoints and methods are always welcome. As
    for
    > those
    > > who are on the other side of the ball...keep lurking, and pitch
    in when
    > > necessary!
    > >
    > > Cliff
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@y...>
    > > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:53 AM
    > > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...
    > >
    > >
    > > > I agree 100%, especially if one is in another time zone.
    > > > Regards
    > >
    > > > > If somebody checks their email AFTER an answer has already
    > > > been given,
    > > > > what's the point of providing another answer?
    > > >
    > >
    > > Two more cents:
    > > The example below is a good reason for providing another answer.
    The
    > earlier
    > > post suggested using an optical component with a diode and
    transistor in
    > it,
    > > which not too many people would have on hand. The later post
    used a diode
    > > and a transistor that might be more commonly found in one's box
    of parts,
    > > and probably costs less. Different ideas and perspectives really
    add value
    > > to this forum technically, educationally, and interestingly.
    > >
    > > I suppose on a dial-up line it might cost a penny or two
    per "extra"
    > message
    > > and that could be a bit irritating if you let it, but have you
    ever looked
    > > into any other similar group lists?
    > > Try the PIC list for example, where you can get 20 or 30 replies
    to the
    > same
    > > original posting one day, another 30 the next - and none of the
    2,000+
    > > participants ever complains.
    > > This is a super forum and group of contributors that cover a
    broad range
    > of
    > > abilities, education, experience, and perspectives. I suggest
    welcoming
    > and
    > > valuing all of it.
    > > CL
    > >
    > > Arrived 23:14 EST:
    > >
    > > Here are my 2 cents.
    > >
    > > A simple y fool proof way is to use what is called a cross-over
    > > detector.
    > > Is simply a bipolar NPN like a 2N2222 and connect a clampping
    diode
    > > base to emitter. Apply the AC signal to the base thru a resistor.
    > > In the collector, a resistor to +5v.
    > > Every time the sinewave goes thru zero, the collector saturates
    and
    > > remains saturated thru the positive part of the cycle.
    > > The diode clamps the junction to approximately 0.6 volts when the
    > > sine wave goes negative.
    > > There is no problems with resistor tolerances or changes in the
    > > amplitude of the sine wave. The only changes are due to
    temperature
    > > coefficient of the transistor Vbe which is approx. 2.2 mV/DegC
    > >
    > >
    > > Arrived 21:51 EST:
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@y..., "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
    > > wrote:
    > > > Not exactly, but in a similar way, it's fairly common to input a
    > > sine wave
    > > > to an opto-isolator with a transistor output that will always
    turn
    > > on at the
    > > > same angle (likewise off).
    > >
    > >
    > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
    > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@y...
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-27 22:33
    For some of us that get 100+ emails per day and don't read it until after
    work, its hard to see the first reply 50 or 60 messages down from the
    original question.

    Original Message

    > > I agree 100%, especially if one is in another time zone.

    > > > If somebody checks their email AFTER an answer has already
    > > been given,
    > > > what's the point of providing another answer?

    > The example below is a good reason for providing another answer. The
    earlier
    > post suggested using an optical component with a diode and transistor in
    it,
    > which not too many people would have on hand. The later post used a diode
    > and a transistor that might be more commonly found in one's box of parts,
    > and probably costs less. Different ideas and perspectives really add value
    > to this forum technically, educationally, and interestingly.
    >
    > I suppose on a dial-up line it might cost a penny or two per "extra"
    message
    > and that could be a bit irritating if you let it, but have you ever looked
    > into any other similar group lists?
    > Try the PIC list for example, where you can get 20 or 30 replies to the
    same
    > original posting one day, another 30 the next - and none of the 2,000+
    > participants ever complains.
    > This is a super forum and group of contributors that cover a broad range
    of
    > abilities, education, experience, and perspectives. I suggest welcoming
    and
    > valuing all of it.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-27 22:45
    A supercap has a *very* large capacitance compared to a normal filter
    capacitor.

    For instance, many power supplies use a 3300 Mfd filter cap, which is pretty
    large as capacitors go. If I remember my math, thats 0.0033 Farads. A
    supercap may be as large as 1 Farad, 303 times the capacitance of the filter
    capacitor.

    Normal capacitors are for filtering, blocking or passing signals, but a
    supercap is like a low current rechargeable battery. They use it alot for
    clock chips and backup memory.

    Original Message

    > I kinda been following this thread . . . and maybe missed some of it
    >
    > but what is the difference between a super cap and a capacitor ?
    >
    > did "Super" come from the context of something else ?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 02:33
    That's the very reason you should consider waiting until you've read them
    all before you respond! Afterall, if you hit all of the topics right from
    the start, then the next guy who works even later will have to sort through
    110+ messages!

    What I do when my Inbox is full is hit reply to the first one that I want to
    join in on...BUT...I don't type anything until I see what else has been
    going on in the thread. I let the Reply just sit in the background waiting
    for me.

    Cliff


    Original Message
    From: "Rodent" <daweasel@s...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:33 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...


    For some of us that get 100+ emails per day and don't read it until after
    work, its hard to see the first reply 50 or 60 messages down from the
    original question.

    Original Message

    > > I agree 100%, especially if one is in another time zone.

    > > > If somebody checks their email AFTER an answer has already
    > > been given,
    > > > what's the point of providing another answer?

    > The example below is a good reason for providing another answer. The
    earlier
    > post suggested using an optical component with a diode and transistor in
    it,
    > which not too many people would have on hand. The later post used a diode
    > and a transistor that might be more commonly found in one's box of parts,
    > and probably costs less. Different ideas and perspectives really add value
    > to this forum technically, educationally, and interestingly.
    >
    > I suppose on a dial-up line it might cost a penny or two per "extra"
    message
    > and that could be a bit irritating if you let it, but have you ever looked
    > into any other similar group lists?
    > Try the PIC list for example, where you can get 20 or 30 replies to the
    same
    > original posting one day, another 30 the next - and none of the 2,000+
    > participants ever complains.
    > This is a super forum and group of contributors that cover a broad range
    of
    > abilities, education, experience, and perspectives. I suggest welcoming
    and
    > valuing all of it.




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 03:13
    Screw it. If we're gonna set those standards, I'll keep my suggestions to
    myself. Why should I go through all the hassle to keep track of the messages
    and replies just because its easier on someone else. You guys act like you
    have a 300 baud connection and read at a 3rd grade level.

    Original Message
    From: "Cliff Griffin" <cliff@g...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:33 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...


    > That's the very reason you should consider waiting until you've read them
    > all before you respond! Afterall, if you hit all of the topics right from
    > the start, then the next guy who works even later will have to sort
    through
    > 110+ messages!
    >
    > What I do when my Inbox is full is hit reply to the first one that I want
    to
    > join in on...BUT...I don't type anything until I see what else has been
    > going on in the thread. I let the Reply just sit in the background waiting
    > for me.
    >
    > Cliff
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "Rodent" <daweasel@s...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:33 PM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...
    >
    >
    > For some of us that get 100+ emails per day and don't read it until after
    > work, its hard to see the first reply 50 or 60 messages down from the
    > original question.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > > I agree 100%, especially if one is in another time zone.
    >
    > > > > If somebody checks their email AFTER an answer has already
    > > > been given,
    > > > > what's the point of providing another answer?
    >
    > > The example below is a good reason for providing another answer. The
    > earlier
    > > post suggested using an optical component with a diode and transistor in
    > it,
    > > which not too many people would have on hand. The later post used a
    diode
    > > and a transistor that might be more commonly found in one's box of
    parts,
    > > and probably costs less. Different ideas and perspectives really add
    value
    > > to this forum technically, educationally, and interestingly.
    > >
    > > I suppose on a dial-up line it might cost a penny or two per "extra"
    > message
    > > and that could be a bit irritating if you let it, but have you ever
    looked
    > > into any other similar group lists?
    > > Try the PIC list for example, where you can get 20 or 30 replies to the
    > same
    > > original posting one day, another 30 the next - and none of the 2,000+
    > > participants ever complains.
    > > This is a super forum and group of contributors that cover a broad range
    > of
    > > abilities, education, experience, and perspectives. I suggest welcoming
    > and
    > > valuing all of it.
    >
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 13:50
    There is an article on the Dec. 2001 issue of "Poptronics" magazine on
    'Ultracapacitors'. Thought it might be of interest to you guys looking for
    answers on Supercapacitors. I don't know if they have anything to do with
    each other. Oh yea-- <http://www.poptronics.com> is the URL for the
    magazine.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 19:17
    Finally, someone got it right !!!!!! Thanks Rodent.
    Henry
    Original Message
    From: "Rodent" <daweasel@s...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: 27 December, 2001 2:33 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...


    > For some of us that get 100+ emails per day and don't read it until after
    > work, its hard to see the first reply 50 or 60 messages down from the
    > original question.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > > I agree 100%, especially if one is in another time zone.
    >
    > > > > If somebody checks their email AFTER an answer has already
    > > > been given,
    > > > > what's the point of providing another answer?
    >
    > > The example below is a good reason for providing another answer. The
    > earlier
    > > post suggested using an optical component with a diode and transistor in
    > it,
    > > which not too many people would have on hand. The later post used a
    diode
    > > and a transistor that might be more commonly found in one's box of
    parts,
    > > and probably costs less. Different ideas and perspectives really add
    value
    > > to this forum technically, educationally, and interestingly.
    > >
    > > I suppose on a dial-up line it might cost a penny or two per "extra"
    > message
    > > and that could be a bit irritating if you let it, but have you ever
    looked
    > > into any other similar group lists?
    > > Try the PIC list for example, where you can get 20 or 30 replies to the
    > same
    > > original posting one day, another 30 the next - and none of the 2,000+
    > > participants ever complains.
    > > This is a super forum and group of contributors that cover a broad range
    > of
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-28 22:17
    At 14:17 12/28/01, Henry H. Armstrong wrote:
    >Finally, someone got it right !!!!!! Thanks Rodent.
    >Henry
    >
    Original Message
    >From: "Rodent" <daweasel@s...>
    >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    >Sent: 27 December, 2001 2:33 PM
    >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Super Cap-not really...
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    > > For some of us that get 100+ emails per day and don't read it until after
    > > work, its hard to see the first reply 50 or 60 messages down from the
    > > original question.

    Forgive a dumb question, but won't Outlook Express thread by subject?


    Jim H
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