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IDE Project Update

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2002-01-30 20:05 in General Discussion
No pics or schematic yet, but I did get the low level routines to work. So far,
I'm only using 28 out of 33 pins on this 16F877 PIC. The other 5 will be for
serial communication & ADC.

Hopefully, I'll have more time this weekend to update my site.
http://www.barrymichels.com/ide

Barry


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 00:30
    All the low-level RAM and IDE access routines are finished and on my site
    along with an updated schematic.
    Since this is becoming more PIC related and less Stamp related, are there
    any PIC groups around that anyone would recommend?
    Once this project is finished, it will become Stamp-related again. All of
    my recent efforts have gone into developing PICDOS. Eventually, it will be
    a simple 2-wire I2C peripheral for hard drive access with FAT16/32
    capability. Right now, I'm focusing on FAT16, but once it is operational,
    those routines can be easily modified to support FAT32.
    Also, I'm working on a more permanent hardware arrangement. Does anyone
    know where I can get a few prototype boards made for a reasonable fee? The
    only place I've found so far is http://www.pcb-pool.com that Jeremy
    referenced on his site: http://www.geocities.com/skimask87

    Barry
    http://www.barrymichels.com/ide
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 18:44
    > Since this is becoming more PIC related and less Stamp related, are there
    > any PIC groups around that anyone would recommend?

    Since it is being designed for use with a Stamp it is Stamp related
    isn't it?
    The main PIC list is at http://piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm you
    will probably want to set digest mode the list is extremely busy and can
    get a hundred or messages a day.

    > Also, I'm working on a more permanent hardware arrangement. Does anyone
    > know where I can get a few prototype boards made for a reasonable fee?

    Check out http://www.custompcb.com/index.shtml I have not used them but
    the have a program where you can get a free board by putting their link
    on your web page.

    Craig
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 19:00
    At 07:30 PM 1/5/02 -0500, Barry Michels wrote:
    >All the low-level RAM and IDE access routines are finished and on my site
    >along with an updated schematic.
    >Since this is becoming more PIC related and less Stamp related, are there
    >any PIC groups around that anyone would recommend?

    The PICLIST operating out of one of MIT's servers is probably the best
    place. The easiest way to join is to head over to <www.piclist.com> for
    the appropriate links and instructions. Also - would you consider leaving
    a note to James Newton (webmaster of piclist.com) about what you have done
    - your project sounds like one that is a natural for his site.

    One other think - if you do finish up with a working version written in C,
    there is a bit of a contest going on at piclist.com and at Myke Predko's
    site - you might wind up with free copies of Hitech's C compiler and the
    Salvo real time kernel. They are worth quite a lot - the compiler is 895US
    and I think Salvo is similarly priced.

    I would have mentioned the above sooner but I thought that you were already
    aware of the piclist.

    Congratulations on your success!

    dwayne



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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 21:59
    Barry Wrote:

    Does anyone
    > know where I can get a few prototype boards made for a reasonable fee?

    Barry,

    Take a look at www.expresspcb.com . I haven't used them yet, but know
    several who have, and all are happy with the quality, turn-around time and
    price. Download the free PCB layout software from the web site and start
    designing your boards. The software calcs the prices before you order, and
    you order right online. If you use their services, please let the rest of
    us know what you think.

    Tim Medema
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 22:04
    software is free they have the mini board service witch is 3
    2.5x3.8" board for $59.00
    great deal don't forget if your board is small enough you may be able to
    fit 2 or??? on a single board.
    I have used them several times I have no complaints.
    their software is super easy to use.
    as a matter of fact I wish they would make a retail version of it.
    regards
    victor
    Original Message
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    > Barry Wrote:
    >
    > Does anyone
    > > know where I can get a few prototype boards made for a reasonable fee?
    >
    > Barry,
    >
    > Take a look at www.expresspcb.com . I haven't used them yet, but know
    > several who have, and all are happy with the quality, turn-around time and
    > price. Download the free PCB layout software from the web site and start
    > designing your boards. The software calcs the prices before you order,
    and
    > you order right online. If you use their services, please let the rest of
    > us know what you think.
    >
    > Tim Medema
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-06 22:07
    I used them recently. Their software is a pain the butt if it's not a very
    simple schematic--especially if you are still making changes. However, my
    needs were for a four component board. I just copied and pasted them so I
    got a 3x4 array in my 2x3 board. (The cheap $59 service only allows for one
    board size.) The boards were better than I'd have made myself, and arrived
    in a timely manner. I'll probably use them again when I need another simple
    board. I won't waste my time with them again on a complex board. (Why would
    I want to do two layouts, when I could send my file to a shop that accepts
    standard files?)

    While I haven't used them yet, A guy posted the message below on the
    picbasic list. I plan to try them out for my more advanced boards.

    Good luck!
    Cliff

    Advanced circuits has a $33 per board special. The offer $33 per board
    (minimum 2), up to 10" x 15" and it includes solder mask on both sides, and
    silkscreen on the top. Here is the link if you want to check them out.
    https://www.4pcb.com/33eachssl.html



    Original Message
    From: "Tim and Jo" <dema@t...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 1:59 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] IDE Project Update


    Barry Wrote:

    Does anyone
    > know where I can get a few prototype boards made for a reasonable fee?

    Barry,

    Take a look at www.expresspcb.com . I haven't used them yet, but know
    several who have, and all are happy with the quality, turn-around time and
    price. Download the free PCB layout software from the web site and start
    designing your boards. The software calcs the prices before you order, and
    you order right online. If you use their services, please let the rest of
    us know what you think.

    Tim Medema


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-30 14:54
    I got 4 prototype boards from ExpressPCB and now the project looks a
    bit more professional instead of a nest of wires on a breadboard. [noparse]:)[/noparse]


    http://www.barrymichels.com/ide
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-30 15:30
    Well done - a very imaginitive project, and very handy I think! Will you be
    publishing your final design?

    Regards,

    Tony Wells

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    > I got 4 prototype boards from ExpressPCB and now the project looks a
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2002-01-30 20:05
    Yes, mostly. All the low-level routines for accessing the drive, ram
    & LCD are already on my site with a full schematic that the PCB was
    made from. But, I'd like to eventually make a kit available so
    anyone can get the PCB and program it to do whatever they want.
    They'll have to come up with their own way of storing/reading data
    from the hard drive. Or they can buy a pre-programmed PIC that has
    PICDOS on it and use it as a FAT compatible peripheral for their own
    project.

    Barry
    http://www.barrymichels.com/ide

    --- In basicstamps@y..., <tony.wells@a...> wrote:
    > Well done - a very imaginitive project, and very handy I think!
    Will you be
    > publishing your final design?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Tony Wells
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