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Inexpensive load sensor / load cell

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-12-04 21:34 in General Discussion
Does anyone know of an inexpensive (hobby/prototype price quality)
load cell in the 25 to 50 pound capacity range?

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-03 15:21
    At 03:42 AM 12/2/01 +0000, you wrote:
    >Does anyone know of an inexpensive (hobby/prototype price quality)
    >load cell in the 25 to 50 pound capacity range?

    How about a SPRING used as a coil in a simple L-C oscillator. Just
    find a spring that works under your demands (25-50 lbs). Make sure
    that under 50 lbs the individual coils do not touch each other.
    Solder a wire to each end of the spring and connect it to an L-C
    oscillator. (Silver-Solder with a brazing torch works nice for
    bonding Steel/Aluminum/Zinc to Copper.)

    Circuit Example:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~y2kbc/Electronics/BasicStamp/Coilread.gif


    Beau Schwabe Mask Designer IV - ATL
    National Semiconductor Wired Communications Division
    500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525 Mail Stop GA1 Norcross, GA 30071
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-03 18:18
    >oscillator. (Silver-Solder with a brazing torch works nice for
    >bonding Steel/Aluminum/Zinc to Copper.)

    You can silver-solder aluminum to copper?

    Jay
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-03 18:24
    At 08:18 AM 12/3/01 -1000, you wrote:
    > >oscillator. (Silver-Solder with a brazing torch works nice for
    > >bonding Steel/Aluminum/Zinc to Copper.)
    >
    >You can silver-solder aluminum to copper?
    >
    >Jay

    Perhaps I'm missing something here, but I "think" this is possible.
    ...Or perhaps not, please enlighten me.
    Beau Schwabe Mask Designer IV - ATL
    National Semiconductor Wired Communications Division
    500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525 Mail Stop GA1 Norcross, GA 30071
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-03 19:59
    >>You can silver-solder aluminum to copper?

    >Perhaps I'm missing something here, but I "think" this is
    >possible. ...Or perhaps not, please enlighten me.

    I didn't know there was any way to "solder" aluminum to anything.

    It's been a few years, but as I recall...

    Aluminum can be "welded" (the aluminum itself is melted) to other aluminum
    with an oxy gas rig (it's difficult to get the temp correct). Aluminum is
    usually welded to other aluminum with special inert gas equipment, but as
    far as I know, no soldering -- no way to get aluminum to "stick" to solder.

    Does anyone know for certain?

    Jay
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-03 20:56
    Just my $.02:

    I have only ever welded aluminum to aluminum. And to do that you need
    a MIG (metal-inert gas) welder and a lot off patience. I think it very
    unlikely that you would get any sort of robust, electricaly-dependable
    connection by brazing copper onto aluminum. If I needed to make an
    electrical connection to aluminum, I would drill a small hole in it and
    use a brass sheet metal screw to hold the wire to it (aluminum is soft
    enough to easily drive a screw into). But all of this is probably
    moot, as I have never seen an aluminum spring (the stuff is just too
    soft).

    Peter

    >You can silver-solder aluminum to copper?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-03 23:04
    At 14:59 12/03/01, Jay Hanson wrote:

    >I didn't know there was any way to "solder" aluminum to anything.

    There are a number of places selling "solder" to join aluminum and
    copper. I've had reasonable success with covering the area to be soldered
    on the aluminum with oil, scratching it up with the edge of a sharp knife
    and then soldering thru the oil. You can get really good results with
    commercial solders meant for joining aluminum to copper. I'm thinking the
    lead content of the special solder is either very low or is zero. And the
    flux composition is probably a huge contributor. It's been a while so I
    can't give you a brand name, but do a search on Google for "solder aluminum
    copper" and I bet you get a dozen good hits.

    Jim H
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-03 23:49
    >Just my $.02:
    >
    >I have only ever welded aluminum to aluminum. And to do that you need
    >a MIG (metal-inert gas) welder and a lot off patience. I think it very
    >unlikely that you would get any sort of robust, electricaly-dependable

    Here's $.02 more... You can use an oxy/acetylene torch to weld aluminum
    as well, but it has to be *CLEAN*. Aluminum oxydizes quickly; the joint
    should be brushe with a stainless steel brush immediately prior to welding
    it. It takes practice, mostly because you get no indication that the metal
    is about to melt. There is a metalworking video at my local library showing
    a guy welding two empty Coke cans together with only a torch and an aluminum
    rod.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-04 00:38
    >flux composition is probably a huge contributor. It's been a while so I
    >can't give you a brand name, but do a search on Google for "solder aluminum
    >copper" and I bet you get a dozen good hits.

    I found one! I will see how it works...

    http://www.solder-it.com/solderitkit.asp

    Jay
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-04 21:11
    You mentioned a range but not a resolution so this may or may not work.

    How about a digital bathroom scale? Anyone dissect one of those yet? I've
    got one in my project box (a.k.a. junk pile) at home awaiting its final
    fate.

    Mike

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-12-04 21:34
    At 16:11 12/04/01, Witherspoon, Michael J wrote:
    >You mentioned a range but not a resolution so this may or may not work.
    >
    >How about a digital bathroom scale? Anyone dissect one of those yet? I've
    >got one in my project box (a.k.a. junk pile) at home awaiting its final
    >fate.

    I've peeked, but not dissected. I have an old (working) scale that looks
    like a bonded load cell, a PIC microprocessor, and some other obviously
    necessary parts like display and voltage regulator. The biggest problem I
    see adapting it to use outside its original housing is recreating an
    acceptable suspension system that properly applies the load to the
    structure containing the bonded load cell.

    These systems seem to autozero, but if you ever overload them past the
    elastic limit of the part to which the load cell is bonded, it will not
    read correctly except at zero. IOW, there was no span or range adjustment
    I could see.

    Jim H
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